Rural firefighters take pass on battl...

Rural firefighters take pass on battling flames at nonpaying re...

There are 20 comments on the Springfield News Leader story from Feb 16, 2006, titled Rural firefighters take pass on battling flames at nonpaying re.... In it, Springfield News Leader reports that:

Monett - Rural firefighters stood by and watched a fire destroy a garage and a vehicle because the property owner, who was injured battling the flames, had not paid membership dues.

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Eric_From_ Dallas_TX

Dallas, TX

#1 Feb 16, 2006
I would NEVER EVER visit such a place, as one that would allow a resident to be injured fighting a fire while your fire department stood by!!!!

I plan on telling EVREYONE I KNOW about this story and will encourage them to travel as far away from your area as possible.

Never.

It is pathetic the way they acted.
c wehr

Huntsville, AL

#2 Feb 16, 2006
I was sickened to read that firefighters would stand by and watch someone's property burn, while the owner was hurt and the fire spread. Fire Chief Ronnie Myers should be fired. At least help the owner and let him pay afterward. Does this organization have no morals?? If I was a resident of this community, I'd be terrified of my property catching fire and being at the mercy of this group to help me. I would think this community would be outraged!! This organization needs to do some serious self evaluation and change their policies for the good of the community. I hope the community rallies behind this unfortunate homeowner and I hope the fire dept is brought up on criminal charges.
jackg-indiana

Troy, MI

#3 Feb 16, 2006
Until a few minutes ago I didn't even know that a Monett,Missouri exists. Now I wish I never heard of Monett, Missouri. I find the reaction of the Fire Dept. disgraceful and they should be renamed the Fired Department. They just might as well broke out the hot dogs and marshmallows!!!
Ken R Pahrump-NV

Prescott, AZ

#4 Feb 16, 2006
It sounds like that Department needs to be shut down,their members obviously don't care about the residents.Hopefully legal action will be taken against those members present,who refused to help a fellow resident.Shame on you!
t casar

Ottawa, Canada

#5 Feb 17, 2006
I want to note that I looked at the City of monett's website, and did not find any mention of fire membership dues that must be paid. The chief himself admitted that they have not done a good job of informing the residents. So how is someone supposed to know?
Mary Powers

United States

#6 Feb 17, 2006
I have contacted several civil rights lawyers and given them the story. I hope each and every coward that failed to buck that hick, Myers is named in a Federal Civil Rights lawsuit. It's obvious it was ethnicity, not failure to pay, that caused the inaction. That and not one "firefighter" with enough moral conviction to buck their Fire Marshall. I bet they all go to church on Sunday!

When one fails to lead properly, someone else has to take action. Nothing and noone could make me stand idly by in such a case. I hope each and every member of the fire department who was present is named in a lawsuit. Barry County needs to get off it's ass and start cleaning house. It will likely be named in a lawsuit as well. What goes around comes around. I hope Mr. Myers and his boys end up putting Mr Rueda's kids through college, and then some.
Terry K

AOL

#7 Feb 17, 2006
I was disgusted when I read this story. As a life long resident in the Springfield area, Monet is very close. It really saddens me that ANY "Firefighters" would just stand by & allow a man to be hurt, but especially so in our area. You owe that man an apology, to say the least.
Do you not have any sense of pride, duty or commitment that comes with the awesome occupation that you have the responsibility to carry out? Shame on you all.
Karen

Ottawa, Canada

#8 Feb 17, 2006
I cannot put into words how disgusted and in disbelief on how the way the fire department handle this situation. I mean they could of informed they new residence more. They could of, would of, handle it differently.

I would demand the fire chief resignation (he spoke out and stood by his fire department, how disgusting). To watch someone possessions go up in flames is disgraceful because he did not pay his "membership". What type of "membership is this anyways? How much power did the county give there "brave firefighters" on this night they are a disgrace to there profession, I think they should take back there power. If any way stands behind this fire department there heads should hang in shame and I hope the fire department is taking a very long look at themselves today. What happen to compansion? Helping your fellow human being in the time of need? Americans always boosting on how proud they are of how they help others, well today.....is a shameful day.

I hope this gentleman sues this fire department and teach them a lesson or two on compassion for your fellow human beings because in the end it will cost the fire department more.

Remind never to visit the woods of this place.
Shane

Newkirk, OK

#9 Feb 20, 2006
The department in question was a rural fire association (a private company) and not the City of Monett fire department. They are two seperate entities completely.
Pat

United States

#10 Feb 20, 2006
Ma'am,

I think you need to do more research on this before you start going off at the mouth. I llive in the town where the incident took place and I can tell you that it was most definitely not racially motivated.

I wish people would do their homework before they automatically believ what the liberal media reports.

P.S. It was not the mans home that burned but merely a garage. Also, he has lived in the area for a year and a half and had been told on numerous occasions that he needed to pay his rural fire dues. Apperently he thought he'd never need it. Apparently he was wrong.
Jack

United States

#11 Feb 20, 2006
This is not a fire department but a for hire fire association. So if you don't pay you don't get service!
A real fire department (even if a subcription funded) would have a policy to meet this very situation. Of course a real fire department would fight the fire and then figure out compensation.
As a career and volunteer firefighter for the past 24 years, this story make me ill.
Hope the "Chief" gets what he deserves, the door. Next in line the board and the department members.
Whoever has the power to change this disgracful episode should take action and create an alterurnative to this private enity. jack Eagle Mountain Utah.
Karen

Ottawa, Canada

#12 Feb 22, 2006
Pat,

It seems that it is still a disgrace not to help your follow human being. The "fire department" took it up on themselves and decided MONEY was more important than helping another HUMAN BEING.(there is a little thing call invoicing). It was greed plain and simple. It does not matter if the gentlemen in question did not pay is "membership dues", it question of being kind in a time of need, but it seems that it is beyond your scope to realize this.

Just remember what you said because the next time it will be you needing the help and because you did not pay or you a let "your membership" slide and then you just watch your garage go up in flames.(just a little reminder what people put in garage...let see car....tools.....and other little possessions)

It's not funny now...well good luck with that.(I still would not visit the back woods to where you live).
Pat wrote:
Ma'am,

I think you need to do more research on this before you start going off at the mouth. I llive in the town where the incident took place and I can tell you that it was most definitely not racially motivated.

I wish people would do their homework before they automatically believ what the liberal media reports.

P.S. It was not the mans home that burned but merely a garage. Also, he has lived in the area for a year and a half and had been told on numerous occasions that he needed to pay his rural fire dues. Apperently he thought he'd never need it. Apparently he was wrong.
Bill Bixley

Tulsa, OK

#13 Feb 23, 2006
Sounds like it is fair deal. If you own property in that area, you are required to pay a fee for Fire Protection, period dot. At least they do not have some imposed Government Tax that steals peoples money and wastes it in some politicians pocket like they do here most times. I would rather pay a small annual fee than to have some giant sales or property tax that steals my money.

I am sure his Fire and Casualty insurance policy will replace his loss, if he purchased "Replacement Value" Insurance. Your only sure bet in a Fire is to have "Replacement Value" Insurance coverage. Anything less is a crap shoot.

One of my partners suffered a total loss of his Work Shop around New Years Eve. They also have volunteer fire fighters. Three Fire Trucks and Two Helicopters were brought in to help battle the blaze, but it didn't matter. Thing burned to the ground in around 30 minutes with a 20 mph wind feeding it oxygen.

This is not the City Fire Department handling these calls.

Surley the Fire and Casualty Insurance Underwriters, Mortgage Lenders and Property Owners in this area are aware of these Fees and Terms. Unless someone were a renter or inhierited the property with not having to go through any Probate Court or other property transfer proceedings, one would be almost certain the Fire deal would be explained along the process some where.

I have owned four homes in Rural areas, and I always knew of the Fire Department regulations and fees long before I made an offer on the property. Kind of a first thing on the list deal.

Monett Missouri is home of one of the oldest and historic dragstrips in the US. Lots of good times have been held at that facility. Don't know if it still exists, but back in the day that place thundered the hill sides.
Monettan in Exile

United States

#14 Nov 10, 2006
Eric_From_ Dallas_TX wrote:
I would NEVER EVER visit such a place, as one that would allow a resident to be injured fighting a fire while your fire department stood by!!!!
I plan on telling EVREYONE I KNOW about this story and will encourage them to travel as far away from your area as possible.
Never.
Wonderful! That's mighty good news, I tell ya. Please, if you could, especially tell all those who are from 'South of the Border' to stay away from here. We would really appreciate your help on that. Ok?
A Different vollie

Jadwin, MO

#15 Nov 12, 2006
Monettan in Exile wrote:
<quoted text>
Wonderful! That's mighty good news, I tell ya. Please, if you could, especially tell all those who are from 'South of the Border' to stay away from here. We would really appreciate your help on that. Ok?
I am so glad you don't represent the rest of the fire departments surrounding Monett. Or, perhaps your 100% Native American. Otherwise, I figure you can go back to Europe or wherever your ancestors came here from. You do realize you don't help their claims that this incident had nothing to do with race, don't you?
Monettan in Exile

United States

#16 Nov 17, 2006
A Different vollie wrote:
<quoted text>
I am so glad you don't represent the rest of the fire departments surrounding Monett. Or, perhaps your 100% Native American. Otherwise, I figure you can go back to Europe or wherever your ancestors came here from. You do realize you don't help their claims that this incident had nothing to do with race, don't you?
You'll learn. I too used to be SO LIBERAL about the POOR DOWNTRODDEN IMMIGRANTS... we had to help them... give them jobs... accept that they don't want to learn English...... what's that...you say in California 40% of it's prison population is Hispanic?--oh that's just our own Cultural Insensitivity to their way of life!! I tell ya, about the 6th time I was threatened or victimized by an Hispanic Gang member, I realized these people are trouble, and they are targeting US. According to the L.A. Times, around 60% of the Hisp. Gang population in Cal. is Illegal. These gang members are not innocent hot-rodders who might street-race on Sat. night, these are hard-core rapists, murderers, drug-dealers, G.T.A. perps. These are bad people who will murder you with a machete, Si!! The sooner they are rounded up and deported the better. The sooner the Border Wall is built the better.

The last time I was threatened by an Hisp. gang member--(he threatened to throw acid in my face)--this was for asking him why he had a handicapped parking tag hanging from his rear-view mirror and had parked in the handicapped space when he was obviously young and healthy.

Im just tired of being taken advantage of, and I'm tired of our Country being taken advantage of and ripped off. If you Love Illegals so much, then take about a dozen into your home and let them live with you.
A Different vollie

Jadwin, MO

#17 Nov 17, 2006
Exile: So, because some illegal, hispanic gang members threatened you, that means it's OK to let a US citizen's business burn just because they're hispanic? Yes, he was a US citizen, just like me and you (I assume you're a citizen at least). Like I say, if the department had your opinion in mind during this incident, it's flat out discrimination.

I'm still waiting for a good reply to my other questions, by the way. I have my doubts there is good reasoning. The sad thing is that this one incident has defined the fire service in Barry County, even though MRFA is the only department in the county that will refuse to fight a fire.
Polkagirl

Burlington, WI

#19 Jan 22, 2010
The Exeter Fire Dept is close to the cemetary.
Fireman

Farmington, MO

#20 Apr 28, 2014
The dues pay for fuel, fire truck and equipment. It's a nationwide thing to have due if a property tax is not in place. Wake up and get involved in your own safety. It's everyone's personal responsibility to know about emergency services
Monettan in Exile

Columbia, MO

#21 Jul 26, 2014
It's been awhile since I've been on this board, but let me reply to A Diff's question.

The Senore in question was denied service because HE HADN'T PAID HIS RURAL FIRE ASSOC DUES. Comprehende? You don't pay the dues, you don't get coverage.

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