DWI: Driving the message home

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MichaelMichael wrote:

<quoted text>First of all learn to spell, secondly the man has point. Illegal aliens have created more problems for our city in more ways than one!
What makes you think that people from South of the Border entering our country illegally are going to be honest people in the future? They're not!
I believe you're the sew pipe!

Learn to write, MichaelMichael!!!..."man has point", "the sew pipe"?!!! Calm down!!!

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Frank Stewart wrote:

this is a bit off topic, but related.
Did anyone notice in the accompanying article On patrol: Spotting the signs of drunk drivers. I had to read it twice, but it specifically mentioned the sheriffs deputies possibly violating the cell phone law as we have all personally observed.
"As the night wore on, Nissen spotted Sgt. Cliff Coleman. a veteran DWI officer, driving in the opposite lane and called him on his cell phone."
These guys need to set the example if they want to be respected for the authority they carry.
I work with law enforcement frequently and all of these little things add up when it comes to public perception. You must set the example and lvie by the same laws everyone else does.
This also goes for the county officer that blew by me doing 90 on I-25 southbound near San Felipe early (6:30am) Saturday. I'm pretty sure he wasn't on the way to a call. This also speaks to taking vehicles home and gas consumption when county and city are strapped for cash.
Come guys and set the example !!

If, as the article suggests, the Deputies were in a County and not a City zone, then they broke no laws - the law banning cell-phone use pertains to within City limits ONLY.

As for the officer who passed you on I25 - how do you know he wasn't responding to a call? As an EMT who has to take an annual 'safe-driving for emergency responders course', I can say that driving with lights and sirens can contribute to accidents in and of itself - people panic when they see emergency lights and make hasty decisions which are not always safe. At 6:30am, the officer may well have decided he did not need to run lights and sirens if the traffic was light enough that he could drive safely without them. That was his determination to make.

And finally, to address your comment later in this thread about "jurisdictions" - the whole County is the jurisdiction for a Santa Fe County Sherrif's Officer! While they may try to stick to one area if they can, sometimes the call demographics mean they HAVE to drive from one area of the County to another, if no other unit is free.

If you truly worked "frequently" with law enforcement, surely you'd know all this. Sounds to me like you're simply taking the chance to do some petty nit-picking on a subject only remotely related to the article subject - DWI.

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excuseomatic wrote:

Wheeler said DWI enforcement is a priority for his department, and that the DWI unit has been at full-strength for most of 2009. The third DWI officer was added under former Police Chief Eric Johnson, whom Wheeler replaced in May. The department wants to add a fourth DWI officer under a plan that calls for adding an overall total of 45 officers to the force in the next three years.
Typical Wheeler, nothing but excuses excuses excuses excuses

Apply for his job if you don't like what he's doing; if you can handle it which I doubt very much!

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Incensed by Ignorance wrote:

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If, as the article suggests, the Deputies were in a County and not a City zone, then they broke no laws - the law banning cell-phone use pertains to within City limits ONLY.
As for the officer who passed you on I25 - how do you know he wasn't responding to a call? As an EMT who has to take an annual 'safe-driving for emergency responders course', I can say that driving with lights and sirens can contribute to accidents in and of itself - people panic when they see emergency lights and make hasty decisions which are not always safe. At 6:30am, the officer may well have decided he did not need to run lights and sirens if the traffic was light enough that he could drive safely without them. That was his determination to make.
And finally, to address your comment later in this thread about "jurisdictions" - the whole County is the jurisdiction for a Santa Fe County Sherrif's Officer! While they may try to stick to one area if they can, sometimes the call demographics mean they HAVE to drive from one area of the County to another, if no other unit is free.
If you truly worked "frequently" with law enforcement, surely you'd know all this. Sounds to me like you're simply taking the chance to do some petty nit-picking on a subject only remotely related to the article subject - DWI.

specify anything with regards to county or city with regards to where he was when on the phone. Furthermore the officer that was speeding was going southbound after San Felipe. Last time I checked this was Sandoval county, not Santa Fe. So please tell me, where was the emergency?
I suspect from your response you are an officer that also likes to speed everywhere you go?

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and talk about ignorant. Have you ever considered that my work with law enforcement and other gov agencies could be unrelated to knowing enforcement procedures? Everybody uses software, even law enforcement.
I just don't get why some laws (like the speed limit) don't apply to all. I drive all over the southwest (no ticket in over 20+ years because I obey the law) and it is a common occurrence wherever I am to see an officer, nowhere near home, going at least 20-25 miles over the limit. Why ????

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Lobo6 wrote:

Come on Already!! Wheeler and Salono must be so jaded. If you live in Santa Fe why don't you try driving down lower cerrillos and Airport road? On weekends there are no cops in shight..the check points are a joke cause they are so predictable. And what are the top prorities for the SF police dept? Pulling over a speeder with three other units for back up?
You guys are a joke.

Its hard to pull over speeders when the cops are the worst offenders. Sunday Night I was driving back to Santa Fe when shortly after 8:00 pm Santa Fe Police Car 45 passed me like a bat out of hell. I tried to catch up to him to get his plate number but he was driving in exess of 95 mph. I slowed down as he passed the casino. It was raining and very dangerous. These cops think they can speed, drink and drive (Officer Steve Ryan). They are not very good role models.

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Incensed by Ignorance wrote:

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If, as the article suggests, the Deputies were in a County and not a City zone, then they broke no laws - the law banning cell-phone use pertains to within City limits ONLY.
As for the officer who passed you on I25 - how do you know he wasn't responding to a call? As an EMT who has to take an annual 'safe-driving for emergency responders course', I can say that driving with lights and sirens can contribute to accidents in and of itself - people panic when they see emergency lights and make hasty decisions which are not always safe. At 6:30am, the officer may well have decided he did not need to run lights and sirens if the traffic was light enough that he could drive safely without them. That was his determination to make.
And finally, to address your comment later in this thread about "jurisdictions" - the whole County is the jurisdiction for a Santa Fe County Sherrif's Officer! While they may try to stick to one area if they can, sometimes the call demographics mean they HAVE to drive from one area of the County to another, if no other unit is free.
If you truly worked "frequently" with law enforcement, surely you'd know all this. Sounds to me like you're simply taking the chance to do some petty nit-picking on a subject only remotely related to the article subject - DWI.

You are absolutely correct!!! this Frank Stewart has his head up u know where!!!

[Frank Stewart]

mad wrote:

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You are absolutely correct!!! this Frank Stewart has his head up u know where!!!

Again heading southbound I-25 at a high rate of speed in Sandoval county. No need to use senseless insults, a reasonable explanation will do fine.

[Frank Stewart]

it ain't just a river in Egypt folks.

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the article did not wrote:

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specify anything with regards to county or city with regards to where he was when on the phone. Furthermore the officer that was speeding was going southbound after San Felipe. Last time I checked this was Sandoval county, not Santa Fe. So please tell me, where was the emergency?
I suspect from your response you are an officer that also likes to speed everywhere you go?

The article DID suggest where they were (I said suggest, not specify)- "Less than a minute later, Coleman's voice came over the police radio. He had spotted a man driving a pickup truck down the middle of Lopez Lane."

Lopez Lane is in Agua Fria = County not City

And no, I'm not an Officer. Had you read my reply properly, you'd have seen - I'm an EMT. I just happen to understand the work that law enforcement in this area does more clearly than you evidently do...

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Incensed by Ignorance wrote:

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The article DID suggest where they were (I said suggest, not specify)- "Less than a minute later, Coleman's voice came over the police radio. He had spotted a man driving a pickup truck down the middle of Lopez Lane."
Lopez Lane is in Agua Fria = County not City
And no, I'm not an Officer. Had you read my reply properly, you'd have seen - I'm an EMT. I just happen to understand the work that law enforcement in this area does more clearly than you evidently do...

the post about the guy in Sandoval county going 90+ while heading southbound. Please give me more of your wisdom. Why is it so hard for you to just admit that some people (law enforcement included) use their cell phones while driving.
Btw the article also said Cerrillos road (could either be in city or county). The article also did not suggest where either officer was when the cell call was made, it only said he spotted him the opposite lane. You think it's possible they could have been somewhere prior to Lopez lane when the call was made?
How about the officer from Eddy county that speeds on I-25 northbound? What's his emergency?
It just a river in Egypt.

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Btw I could "suggest" you were on the moon, doesn't you necessarily are.

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doesn't mean you are. Good spin though, keep em coming.