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#69 Jan 31, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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I know you pluralistic, diversity-oriented GOPers just love those "whining minorities," don't you? LOL
Even I know central Ohio isn't predominately black. You shut the Dems up into one district and kept the others GOP. That's called "gerrymandering." Congratulations.:)
BTW, wsn't Beatty actually a big more CONSERVATIVE than Kilroy?
What right wing positions has she taken?

More moderate, perhaps. But Beatty isn't in the mold of Mark Warner's "radical center", and hasn't even supported "Simpson Bowles"

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#70 Feb 1, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>There's no such thing as a conservative Democrat elected official from Ohio in the 21st century.
Who said Central Ohio? You said Columbus, which is 30% black and full of white liberals.
Can't read? I said MORE conservative, not "conservative." She supported Bush's tax cuts, for example.

And there are a number of districts in central Ohio in the Columbus metropolitan area, which we were also discussing. NOT just the actual Columbus city limits.

Sorry Columbus is so distasteful to you.

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#71 Feb 1, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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No, it isn't.
The GOP had the riskier option of spiltting Franklin three ways, they could have won all three seats. Instead they decided to pack both bases into the seats. Leaving two for the GOP and one for the Dems.
The Ds GAINED a seat.
Packing a party into one district in order to guarantee wins in other neighboring districts is an old, recognized type of gerrymandering. Dems were packed into 03 in order to preserve 12 and 15 for Repubs. Overall, did Dems lose or gain seats in Ohio?

Hugh Victor Thompson III

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#72 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Sorry Columbus is so distasteful to you.
Just the city, not the suburbs.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

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#73 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Packing a party into one district in order to guarantee wins in other neighboring districts is an old, recognized type of gerrymandering. Dems were packed into 03 in order to preserve 12 and 15 for Repubs. Overall, did Dems lose or gain seats in Ohio?
The fact that Kilroy had to have help stealing her election in '08 and then was trounced by 13 percentage points in 2010 should make you guys thrilled to have a "gimme" district.
Wait what

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#74 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Disjointed gibberish. The only thing you could find that the Right disagreed with Bush on was amnesty for illegals? LOL
The Left, including me, never wanted the bastard to invade Iraq AT ALL. And the so-called "surge" had nothing to do with anything, it was merely window-dressing. It permitted a few thousand more troops to be kept in-country instead of rotating home. The real results came from basically bribing the Sunni leaders to behave themselves, and from etnic cleansing that had already taken place.
Your closing comment is so wrong and so stupid I don't even know where to start. I could just as easily say that Obama Derangement Synbdrome was the only reason the far right was opposed to ANY involvement in Libya, of which we had very little.
You're not smart, or at least you rely too much on rightie propaganda.
Hate to break it to ya, but I know some Vietnam Vets, very Republican, who didn't think it was a good idea to invade Iraq, either.

Amazing that people on the left are so quick to gloat in terms of labeling. Really doesn't make you look very smart, being a professor and all.

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#75 Feb 1, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>The fact that Kilroy had to have help stealing her election in '08 and then was trounced by 13 percentage points in 2010 should make you guys thrilled to have a "gimme" district.
LOL! Thanks for admitting you're a partisan loon, not that it wasn't obvious.

IF she had stolen it, which of course didn't happen, it would have been 'turnabout is fair play' from Stivers having stolen it previously. And of course she's ten times the Congressperson that Jivers ever could be...:)

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#76 Feb 1, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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Hate to break it to ya, but I know some Vietnam Vets, very Republican, who didn't think it was a good idea to invade Iraq, either.
Amazing that people on the left are so quick to gloat in terms of labeling. Really doesn't make you look very smart, being a professor and all.
I will grant that a few, very few Republicans including 'Nam vets were opposed to Iraq. Interestingly, Chuck Hagel was one - now being vehemently opposed by the GOP for Sec'y of Defense, of course.

There used to be a lot more responsible Republicans than at present. Almost none now hold office.
Wait what

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#77 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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LOL! Thanks for admitting you're a partisan loon, not that it wasn't obvious.
IF she had stolen it, which of course didn't happen, it would have been 'turnabout is fair play' from Stivers having stolen it previously. And of course she's ten times the Congressperson that Jivers ever could be...:)
How so? By making sure the government monitored gym teachers?

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#78 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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LOL! Thanks for admitting you're a partisan loon, not that it wasn't obvious.
IF she had stolen it, which of course didn't happen, it would have been 'turnabout is fair play' from Stivers having stolen it previously. And of course she's ten times the Congressperson that Jivers ever could be...:)
When did Stivers steal an election? Kilroy lost to Deb Pryce in 2006, in race where Pryce barely campaigned.
Kilroy doomed herself in 2010 by being a barely "elected" first termer who was nothing more than a hand puppet of Pelosi.

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#79 Feb 1, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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How so? By making sure the government monitored gym teachers?
By not being a Republican is good enough.:)

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#80 Feb 1, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>When did Stivers steal an election? Kilroy lost to Deb Pryce in 2006, in race where Pryce barely campaigned.
Kilroy doomed herself in 2010 by being a barely "elected" first termer who was nothing more than a hand puppet of Pelosi.
Kilroy barely lost to Pryce in an election where Pryce was the incumbent and highly regarded in Republican circles, serving on several House committees. Maybe it was her vote to privatize SS that didn't do her too much good, huh?:)

Naturally you don't like Kilroy, don't want to acknowledge her perfectly legitimate election, and hate Pelosi. It goes with your territory, of course.

ps - in 2008 it was Stivers who tried to steal the election but ended up losing. A matter of getting a large number of provisional ballots tossed out, I believe. Poetic justice...:)

Hugh Victor Thompson III

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#81 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Kilroy barely lost to Pryce in an election where Pryce was the incumbent and highly regarded in Republican circles, serving on several House committees. Maybe it was her vote to privatize SS that didn't do her too much good, huh?:)
Naturally you don't like Kilroy, don't want to acknowledge her perfectly legitimate election, and hate Pelosi. It goes with your territory, of course.
ps - in 2008 it was Stivers who tried to steal the election but ended up losing. A matter of getting a large number of provisional ballots tossed out, I believe. Poetic justice...:)
But you're above all that partisan stuff, huh? I mean, calling him "Jivers," that doesn't go with any kind of "territory," right?

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#82 Feb 1, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>But you're above all that partisan stuff, huh? I mean, calling him "Jivers," that doesn't go with any kind of "territory," right?
I tend to vote Dem, and valued Mary Jo Kilroy far more than Stivers. I have an opinion, and have never claimed not to.

I just don't let partisanship alter the facts...:)

Hugh Victor Thompson III

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#83 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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I tend to vote Dem, and valued Mary Jo Kilroy far more than Stivers. I have an opinion, and have never claimed not to.
I just don't let partisanship alter the facts...:)
I saw no facts being altered, but naturally, you'll call that argument partisan. All I can say now is that Stivers probably has his seat for as long as he wants it. He's young enough to serve ten terms, easily.

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#84 Feb 1, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>I saw no facts being altered, but naturally, you'll call that argument partisan. All I can say now is that Stivers probably has his seat for as long as he wants it. He's young enough to serve ten terms, easily.
Well, when you claimed Kilroy "stole" the seat you lied, so that's one at least.

And yes, Jivers probably will hold the seat for awhile, given GOP gerrymandering and the unfortunately likelihood it will continue.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

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#85 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Well, when you claimed Kilroy "stole" the seat you lied, so that's one at least.
And yes, Jivers probably will hold the seat for awhile, given GOP gerrymandering and the unfortunately likelihood it will continue.
Kilroy most certainly stole that seat with the help of Jennifer Brunner and a bunch of OSU students who weren't eligible to vote in the 15th District.

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#86 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Packing a party into one district in order to guarantee wins in other neighboring districts is an old, recognized type of gerrymandering. Dems were packed into 03 in order to preserve 12 and 15 for Repubs. Overall, did Dems lose or gain seats in Ohio?
Both sides lost one seat.

Packing a party into one district, is also called "The Voting Rights Act of 1965"

Look at a map of Fudge's district. Without the VRA, that portion of Cuyahoga and Akron would be cracked to allow the Ds to win Renacci's and Joyce's seat.

Even if they had the pen, they could only gain one seat without violating the VRA, that being to draw Hamilton County into a single district.

In the 2000 drawing, Franklin County was "cracked" so the Rs could win all three seats.

In 2010, due to the Ds winning one seat in 2008 and losing it in 2010, the decision was made to "pack" and give them one seat rather than risk cracking it three ways (or even four if they were really cocky) and losing all three seats.

You complained when it was cracked, and when it was packed, despite the packing causing a net gain of one more Central Ohio seat for the Ds, this time guarunteed unlike Kilroy's win in 2008.

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#87 Feb 1, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Well, when you claimed Kilroy "stole" the seat you lied, so that's one at least.
And yes, Jivers probably will hold the seat for awhile, given GOP gerrymandering and the unfortunately likelihood it will continue.
Only an LBJ landslide would cause the Ds to win a Suburban Columbus metro area seat. Delaware County OH is the second most R county in the state.

In Central Ohio, one county votes D, Frankin.

If you want to see where the map is really gerrymanderd, you look at Northeast Ohio. Without creative map drawing, Joyce and Renacci wouldn't be in Congress in the state's most socialist area.

Now it may seem unethical, but I really enjoy not having Betty "Clunkers" Sutton "representing" me, as Sherrod Brown did when he was in Congress under the 1990 D drawn map.

I see it as fair payback for the greatest gerrymandering in US History, the Immigration Act of 1965

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#88 Feb 4, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Kilroy most certainly stole that seat with the help of Jennifer Brunner and a bunch of OSU students who weren't eligible to vote in the 15th District.
Translation:'She won and I hate her because she's a Democrat.'

LOL

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