Managers know firing part of job

Managers know firing part of job

There are 21 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from May 3, 2010, titled Managers know firing part of job. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

Professional government administrators may be fired for just cause. Or sometimes, just because .

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Get Real

Nashport, OH

#1 May 3, 2010
Often in private business, people are fired to cover up the incompetence of their managers. Poor decisions, failed planning, or just plain old politics leads to job loss. In my case, I reported to a total fool who was never around nor had a clue of what was going on. We spent about 1/2 our time trying to safe the "manager" from himself. He's still employed and fumbling on the job while the rest of us are out looking. Employment at will is worthless and counterproductive.
Barb

Delaware, OH

#2 May 3, 2010
Don't worry. The human resourses manager that released all of those social security numbers is still on the job......IN FLORIDA.
Jin

San Diego, CA

#3 May 3, 2010
Get Real wrote:
Often in private business, people are fired to cover up the incompetence of their managers. Poor decisions, failed planning, or just plain old politics leads to job loss. In my case, I reported to a total fool who was never around nor had a clue of what was going on. We spent about 1/2 our time trying to safe the "manager" from himself. He's still employed and fumbling on the job while the rest of us are out looking. Employment at will is worthless and counterproductive.
companys often fail to fire the right people
have you noticed useless people stick around for ever and the real stars move on the fastest.

best of luck friend.
hocking hick

New Albany, OH

#4 May 3, 2010
I say cut out the middle-man. Sometimes the mayor or the city council are the ones who need to go - not professionals who know what they are doing.

Towns should form search committees -- who would then retain oversite with certain limits to hire and contract their own mayor/managers. It would do away with a lot of the politicking, and allow people without lcoal blinders and baggage to do their jobs.
LOL

Bradenton, FL

#6 May 3, 2010
If you are a "professional government administrator" you should be fired......

one look at government at any level will prove this to be true.
ODB

Columbus, OH

#5 May 3, 2010
Why was my comment deleted? Is the Dispatch afraid of Tim Hansley?
jbd612

AOL

#7 May 3, 2010
Serving the public is not the list of things to do...all these guys care about is their own ego. Eliminate all those positions and form volunteer committees. It would save a lot of time and air pollution if we didn't have to listen to the garbage they say all the time.

Since: Dec 08

Kerrville, TX

#8 May 3, 2010
Does anyone ever get fired from a government union job?
Average-Joe

Columbus, OH

#9 May 3, 2010
Got to love it
Your old boss

Eustis, FL

#10 May 3, 2010
Get Real wrote:
Often in private business, people are fired to cover up the incompetence of their managers. Poor decisions, failed planning, or just plain old politics leads to job loss. In my case, I reported to a total fool who was never around nor had a clue of what was going on. We spent about 1/2 our time trying to safe the "manager" from himself. He's still employed and fumbling on the job while the rest of us are out looking. Employment at will is worthless and counterproductive.
typical loser rant - blaming the boss for your own stupidity
Promise not kept

Westerville, OH

#11 May 3, 2010
At least these managers know what they are in for. If you work for the State of Ohio and are a manager they will change your employment status and say it was a "mistake" and then fire you. Even if your job was posted and you were hired as a civil servant. there is no civil service for managers in Ohio and no public service hiring manager is held accountable.
Thinker

United States

#12 May 3, 2010
sailorman2 wrote:
Does anyone ever get fired from a government union job?
I don't think that is possible. Defies the laws of nature.
Get Real

Nashport, OH

#13 May 3, 2010
Hey, are you really my old boss? Good to hear from you again! I can see you haven't changed much and still are evolving to human. But don't worry, you'll get there soon, I just know it! Good luck!

Do you still need help making coffee or figuring out where the on switch is on the computer? I can still do that now and will take a salary cut. Recession and all, ya know. Do you still need some more of my ideas to steal for your own? I've got a few you can use. Hopefully your two faces are still intact, particularly the one with the big brown nose, and you can cut down your employees to your boss while telling us how great we are! I know you were working on growing a pair and I hope that is going well for you! I can certainly help bolster your backbone if you still need someone to make tough decisions for you.

From your post, I can see that you are still thinking of your workers as numbers on a board. I admire your vast math skills! It is refreshing to see such a well-trained, specimen of American management who really sees the rest of us for what we are.

Again, don't hesitate to continue to offer here such well thought out and intelligent opinions as you have done below. You are obviously someone who really, really contributes in some way to our country's well being and makes America the place it is now.
Your old boss wrote:
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typical loser rant - blaming the boss for your own stupidity
For Real

United States

#14 May 3, 2010
sailorman2 wrote:
Does anyone ever get fired from a government union job?
It's tough, real tough. You have to basically get caught in the act of theft, or something. Trust me...
Joker

United States

#15 May 3, 2010
Get Real wrote:
Hey, are you really my old boss? Good to hear from you again! I can see you haven't changed much and still are evolving to human. But don't worry, you'll get there soon, I just know it! Good luck!
Do you still need help making coffee or figuring out where the on switch is on the computer? I can still do that now and will take a salary cut. Recession and all, ya know. Do you still need some more of my ideas to steal for your own? I've got a few you can use. Hopefully your two faces are still intact, particularly the one with the big brown nose, and you can cut down your employees to your boss while telling us how great we are! I know you were working on growing a pair and I hope that is going well for you! I can certainly help bolster your backbone if you still need someone to make tough decisions for you.
From your post, I can see that you are still thinking of your workers as numbers on a board. I admire your vast math skills! It is refreshing to see such a well-trained, specimen of American management who really sees the rest of us for what we are.
Again, don't hesitate to continue to offer here such well thought out and intelligent opinions as you have done below. You are obviously someone who really, really contributes in some way to our country's well being and makes America the place it is now.
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This could be Carolyn Williams'resume. In the late 80's she was called psycho "B" and she is still at the BMV!
Conservatard

Blacklick, OH

#17 May 3, 2010
Get Real wrote:
Often in private business, people are fired to cover up the incompetence of their managers. Poor decisions, failed planning, or just plain old politics leads to job loss. In my case, I reported to a total fool who was never around nor had a clue of what was going on. We spent about 1/2 our time trying to safe the "manager" from himself. He's still employed and fumbling on the job while the rest of us are out looking. Employment at will is worthless and counterproductive.
How dare you malign the private sector?! You must hate America. You should know that only government has bad, lazy employees, and that every employee in the private sector is a well-oiled productivity machine churning out work product every millisecond they are on the clock. There's no fraud, nepotism, abuse, or wasted time or resources in the private sector because the free market wouldn't support it.
Get Real

Nashport, OH

#16 May 3, 2010
I don't know who that is.

Business is definitely the Peter Principal, people are promoted to the highest level of their incompetence. I've worked high tech in Columbus for several years and amazed at what managers get away with but keep their jobs while those saving this posteriors all the time are let go. The last computer firm in Dublin I was at continued to make bad decisions over and over even after being pointed out the obvious. It was like living a train wreck in slow motion. One manager was assigned a huge high tech project and spent a week in secret "learning" the concepts from books. So now he's an expert. The rest of us had been working with the techniques for years but weren't considered "managers" so expendable. It is a huge joke.

He is still bumbling through and the project has had set back after set back. They fired anyone with a idea that went outside the "norm" - they didn't like to hear anything they didn't agree with, rocked the boat, or business practical ideas. The guy in charge of all of it hides in his office and barely knew what was going on. Somewhere, common sense was left at the door. Turnover is high bringing true the phrase "Scum rises to the top of the pond".

If I wasn't out pounding the pavement, it would be comical.

Joker wrote:
<quoted text> This could be Carolyn Williams'resume. In the late 80's she was called psycho "B" and she is still at the BMV!
Dan

United States

#18 May 3, 2010
I suppose its fine.

Know thyself: http://dan-gettingstarted.blogspot.com/
Your old boss

Eustis, FL

#19 May 3, 2010
Get Real wrote:
Business is definitely the Peter Principal, people are promoted to the highest level of their incompetence.
If I wasn't out pounding the pavement, it would be comical.
<quoted text>
yet more loser rant - and since you are big peter principal fan, what does it say about you since you have apparently "topped out" in the unemployment line....
bulldog2

Leesburg, FL

#20 May 8, 2010
The H.R. guy stood up at a public meeting & said he had nothing to do with it, that he was blamed for the release of private information and fired for it.

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