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Pale Rider

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#1 Jan 1, 2013
Are the Democrats leading the Republicans?

But in order to get the DEBATE STARTED.
What is the biggest thing America is facing?

1. Debt ceiling?

2. Unemployment?

3. Iran and their nuclear weapons program?

4. Tax reform?

5. Immigration reform?

6. Has Obama been a winner or a miserable failure?

7. The National Debt.

8. Gun Control.

9. Gay Marriage.

10. War on Women.

11. The Congress.

12. The Supreme Court.

13. Reduce Government spending.

14. Government Entitlements?

15. What is your beef?

Why do Topix Republicans think, they are smarter? They call Democrats stupid, and on welfare. They think the only people that have a job, and pay taxes are the Republicans.
Pale Rider

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#2 Jan 2, 2013
The biggest problem facing the United States today which is run-away spending and our growing debt crises. Who is to blame?

It started with that lying Ronald Reagan.

National Debt

Reagan got elected by telling the country the debt was "out of control." But, compared to national income, it was the lowest in 50 years. He probably didn't know. But his supply-side economists did, and they lied to America.

Voodoo Economics

Bush senior knew they were lying and call it Voodoo economics—meaning: No, cutting taxes, would not raise more money and cure the deficit.

Was it the Democratic Congress?

Conservatives have long been embarrassed by Reagan running the debt up and out of control, so they made up a cover story — "the Democratic Congress did it." But as this graph shows, Congress changed the presidents' budgets only a tiny bit, and mostly down not up — Congress reduced Reagan's spending by $16 billion over his eight budget years. In spite of Congressional reductions, Reagan increased the debt by $1,860 billion. Blaming that on Congress is just political deception.

REPUBLICANS ran up the debt and now THEY don’t want to pay the bill

Three Republican Presidents

What our nation is faced with today is a mountain of debt run up mostly by 3 Republican Presidents – Ronald Reagan – and the two Bushes. And now today – that very same Republican Party is saying “no way” to Democrats who just want to pay off that pile of Republican debt.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#3 Jan 2, 2013
Pale Rider wrote:
The biggest problem facing the United States today which is run-away spending and our growing debt crises. Who is to blame?
It started with that lying Ronald Reagan.
National Debt
Reagan got elected by telling the country the debt was "out of control." But, compared to national income, it was the lowest in 50 years. He probably didn't know. But his supply-side economists did, and they lied to America.
Voodoo Economics
Bush senior knew they were lying and call it Voodoo economics—meaning: No, cutting taxes, would not raise more money and cure the deficit.
Was it the Democratic Congress?
Conservatives have long been embarrassed by Reagan running the debt up and out of control, so they made up a cover story — "the Democratic Congress did it." But as this graph shows, Congress changed the presidents' budgets only a tiny bit, and mostly down not up — Congress reduced Reagan's spending by $16 billion over his eight budget years. In spite of Congressional reductions, Reagan increased the debt by $1,860 billion. Blaming that on Congress is just political deception.
REPUBLICANS ran up the debt and now THEY don’t want to pay the bill
Three Republican Presidents
What our nation is faced with today is a mountain of debt run up mostly by 3 Republican Presidents – Ronald Reagan – and the two Bushes. And now today – that very same Republican Party is saying “no way” to Democrats who just want to pay off that pile of Republican debt.
Hey, kid...how is that debt going away when you just got what you wanted? You just got a deal last night that brings in a ratio of $41 in new taxes while only cutting ONE dollar in existing spending. meanwhile you're adding $330 billion in new spending. That is an example of your mental illness.
Let's not forget that your boy Obama added more debt in four years than Bush did in eight years.
If you people wanted debt reduction, you'd start by throwing out Obamacare and reforming every other entitlement program. But you don't want debt reduction...you want to steal from the producers and hand it to your ignorant, lazy plantation sheep.
Pale Rider

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#4 Jan 2, 2013
Gun Rights -

Total Contributions $22,467,579
Of that total Democrats -$3,231,405 --------14%

Of that total Republicans -$19,195,400 ---- 85%

Gun Control -
Total Contributions $1,888,886

Of that total Democrats $1,776,310 --------- 94%

Of that total Republicans $112,326 ---------- 6%

Look at those gun rights under Republicans, no wonder, we have no
gun control passed. The Republicans are getting paid by the NRA, Gun manufactures, Right Wing nuts like Ted Nugent, shell out big bucks to stop gun control.
Pale Rider

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#5 Jan 2, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, kid...how is that debt going away when you just got what you wanted? You just got a deal last night that brings in a ratio of $41 in new taxes while only cutting ONE dollar in existing spending. meanwhile you're adding $330 billion in new spending. That is an example of your mental illness.
Let's not forget that your boy Obama added more debt in four years than Bush did in eight years.
If you people wanted debt reduction, you'd start by throwing out Obamacare and reforming every other entitlement program. But you don't want debt reduction...you want to steal from the producers and hand it to your ignorant, lazy plantation sheep.
Are you a sheep or a goat? Living off those that work for a living.
Pale Rider

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#6 Jan 2, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, kid...how is that debt going away when you just got what you wanted? You just got a deal last night that brings in a ratio of $41 in new taxes while only cutting ONE dollar in existing spending. meanwhile you're adding $330 billion in new spending. That is an example of your mental illness.
Let's not forget that your boy Obama added more debt in four years than Bush did in eight years.
If you people wanted debt reduction, you'd start by throwing out Obamacare and reforming every other entitlement program. But you don't want debt reduction...you want to steal from the producers and hand it to your ignorant, lazy plantation sheep.
Goat - You forgot to say anything about the three Presidents that put America in this mess. Are you blind to the truth?

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#7 Jan 2, 2013
Pale Rider wrote:
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Goat - You forgot to say anything about the three Presidents that put America in this mess. Are you blind to the truth?
Obama is one of those presidents, kid. Until you admit that, you lose any attempt at an argument.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#8 Jan 2, 2013
Pale Rider wrote:
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Are you a sheep or a goat? Living off those that work for a living.
I've paid more in taxes over the past 27 years than you'll earn (or collect) in a lifetime, kid.
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#9 Jan 2, 2013
VOO-DOO Economics

In 1981, the supply-siders commandeered the Reagan Presidency and employed their Voodoo economics, as Bush senior had called it in 1980. He was saying that tax cuts would not increase government revenues. The Voodoo failed just as Bush predicted, and the supply-siders turned a 32-year winning streak into a debt disaster that continues to this day. For 20 years, under Reagan and the Bushes, the national debt increased compared to GDP every single year.
Pale Rider

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#10 Jan 2, 2013
What about Obama? Notice how the debt accelerated during Bush's last two budget years. Obama's debt is a continuation of that trend and neither Bush nor Obama are directly responsible for that acceleration. It happened because of the recession. Bush set the all-time record by increasing the debt by $1.1 trillion in 100 days between July 30 and Nov 9, 2008—but that had little to do with his choices.
Recessions cut tax revenues—in this case, dramatically. That accounts for nearly half of the deficit. So blaming Obama for the full deficit is like blaming him for not raising the tax rate to keep tax revenues up. Most of the increased spending is automatic increases in unemployment benefits, food stamps, and social security payments for early retirement. Very little of it is from stimulus spending, and that's over.
What would have happened to the national debt if Reagan and the Bushes had balanced their budgets as Reagan claimed he would. G.W. Bush, in all modesty, claimed he would "retire nearly $1 trillion in debt over the next four years. This will be the largest debt reduction ever achieved by any nation at any time."
Republicans are quite embarrassed by this performance, so they have invented a cover story: The Democratic Congress did it. Nice try. But for 12 of the 20 years the Congress was not Democratic.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#11 Jan 2, 2013
Pale Rider wrote:
What about Obama? Notice how the debt accelerated during Bush's last two budget years. Obama's debt is a continuation of that trend and neither Bush nor Obama are directly responsible for that acceleration. It happened because of the recession. Bush set the all-time record by increasing the debt by $1.1 trillion in 100 days between July 30 and Nov 9, 2008—but that had little to do with his choices.
Recessions cut tax revenues—in this case, dramatically. That accounts for nearly half of the deficit. So blaming Obama for the full deficit is like blaming him for not raising the tax rate to keep tax revenues up. Most of the increased spending is automatic increases in unemployment benefits, food stamps, and social security payments for early retirement. Very little of it is from stimulus spending, and that's over.
What would have happened to the national debt if Reagan and the Bushes had balanced their budgets as Reagan claimed he would. G.W. Bush, in all modesty, claimed he would "retire nearly $1 trillion in debt over the next four years. This will be the largest debt reduction ever achieved by any nation at any time."
Republicans are quite embarrassed by this performance, so they have invented a cover story: The Democratic Congress did it. Nice try. But for 12 of the 20 years the Congress was not Democratic.
Clinton's surplus was the result of a Republican Congress, kid. Google "John Kasich."
Pale Rider

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#12 Jan 2, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Clinton's surplus was the result of a Republican Congress, kid. Google "John Kasich."
Clinton gets the credit by most Americans. Republicans look for anything to get any credit they can.
Pale Rider

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#13 Jan 2, 2013
Between Geoge W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, George H. Bush and the Republicans, they messed up America for the next 50 years.

Old Ronald Reagan, started out by telling everyone, what we need is smaller government, not bigger. Then he spent more money than every President prior to him, including FDR, who had World War II to pay for. That started a trend for every Republican President after him, which one could put America in the hole (Debt) the most.

But it was George W. Bush, that got help from the Republican appointed Supreme Court to give him the election in 2000. Then he bought the 2004 election. He never was any good as President. There was more greed, and corruption under him than any President in American History. Remember Enron, that started the corruption. Old Bush thought to himself, if I can steal the election, why not except greed from corporate leaders too. Let them steal, get paid millions in salary, and let me give the greedy bastards a tax cut too, that will make them happy. After all, their contributions put me in the office. Next I will start a war, because my old Daddy was threatened to be killed by Saddam Hussein. My buddy Dick Cheney my VP, his company (Halliburton), he resigned from to become VP, they will need to rebuild Iraq, they will make billions from the money we borrow from China for the war effort. The working class is just stupid enough to pay for it.

Yep George W. Bush screwed America. Now you have some idea why George W. Bush is the most unpopular President since another Republican was drove out of office for lying, Richard M. Nixon.
Spookishere F trolls

Toledo, OH

#14 Jan 2, 2013
Pale Rider wrote:
Gun Rights -
Total Contributions $22,467,579
Of that total Democrats -$3,231,405 --------14%
Of that total Republicans -$19,195,400 ---- 85%
Gun Control -
Total Contributions $1,888,886
Of that total Democrats $1,776,310 --------- 94%
Of that total Republicans $112,326 ---------- 6%
Look at those gun rights under Republicans, no wonder, we have no
gun control passed. The Republicans are getting paid by the NRA, Gun manufactures, Right Wing nuts like Ted Nugent, shell out big bucks to stop gun control.
Gun rigjts are constitutional rights stealing is not. Stealing is essentially what obama voters are doing.
Pale Rider

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#15 Jan 2, 2013
Republicans Are Getting Hammered For Their Handling Of The Fiscal Cliff Talks

In another sign that Republicans could have a tough time winning a public-opinion battle over a deal to avert the fiscal cliff, a new Gallup poll released Tuesday displays staggeringly low approval ratings for Congressional Republicans on their handling of the negotiations thus far.

The poll finds that only 27 percent of respondents approve of how Republican leaders in Congress are handling negotiations on the fiscal cliff so far. An astounding 63 percent disapprove.

I love to hammer Republicans. They lost In November, they have drug their feet for nearly four years. Now they are getting hammered by Donald Trump, Chris Christie. Is Christie getting himself in position to run in 2016?

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#16 Jan 2, 2013
Pale Rider wrote:
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Clinton gets the credit by most Americans. Republicans look for anything to get any credit they can.
If one president is responsible for an economy, then all of them are, kid. That makes Bush an awesome president for six of his eight years and Obama an utter failure.
Works for me.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#17 Jan 2, 2013
Pale Rider wrote:
Republicans Are Getting Hammered For Their Handling Of The Fiscal Cliff Talks
In another sign that Republicans could have a tough time winning a public-opinion battle over a deal to avert the fiscal cliff, a new Gallup poll released Tuesday displays staggeringly low approval ratings for Congressional Republicans on their handling of the negotiations thus far.
The poll finds that only 27 percent of respondents approve of how Republican leaders in Congress are handling negotiations on the fiscal cliff so far. An astounding 63 percent disapprove.
I love to hammer Republicans. They lost In November, they have drug their feet for nearly four years. Now they are getting hammered by Donald Trump, Chris Christie. Is Christie getting himself in position to run in 2016?
Fat fools like Christie don't become president, kid. If that were the case, Ted Kennedy and Al Gore would have been elected.
Pale Rider

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#18 Jan 2, 2013
Spookishere F trolls wrote:
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Gun rigjts are constitutional rights stealing is not. Stealing is essentially what obama voters are doing.
No facts Spook. None!
Pale Rider

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#19 Jan 2, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Fat fools like Christie don't become president, kid. If that were the case, Ted Kennedy and Al Gore would have been elected.
He will not get my vote. Poor Al won. The Supreme cheated him out of a win, along with Jeb Bush tossing 68000 votes that would have gone to Gore.

1. Had Gore won, no war with Iraq.

2. America would not have gotten attacked.

3. We might not be having the weather we have seen in the last few years. Those poor Polar Bears, may not survive. Manhattan may be under water if, we don't go green.

4. Gas might be $150.00 a gallon.

5. The National debt might be under 3 Trillion.

We should have elected Al Gore, is the bottom line. George W. Bush bought the election. Look what a mess he left for the Great Obama, the man that will be credited for saving America.

America went to hell when George W. Bush stole the election.
Pale Rider

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#20 Jan 2, 2013
That should have been $1.50 a gallon.

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