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Everyone in US Under Virtual Surveillance

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“animis opibusque parati”

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#1 Dec 5, 2012
'Everyone in US under virtual surveillance'- NSA whistleblower

The FBI records the emails of nearly all US citizens, including members of congress, according to NSA whistleblower William Binney. In an interview with RT, he warned that the government can use this information against anyone.

Binney, one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in the history of the National Security Agency, resigned in 2001. He claimed he no longer wanted to be associated with alleged violations of the Constitution, such as how the FBI engages in widespread and pervasive surveillance through powerful devices called 'Naris.'

This year, Binney received the Callaway award, an annual prize that recognizes those who champion constitutional rights and American values at great risk to their personal or professional lives.

RT: In light of the Petraeus/Allen scandal while the public is so focused on the details of their family drama, one may argue that the real scandal in this whole story is the power, the reach of the surveillance state. I mean if we take General Allen Ė thousands of his personal e-mails have been sifted through private correspondence. Itís not like any of those men was planning an attack on America. Does the scandal prove the notion that there is no such thing as privacy in a surveillance state?

William Binney: Yes, thatís what Iíve been basically saying for quite some time, is that the FBI has access to the data collected, which is basically the emails of virtually everybody in the country. And the FBI has access to it. All the congressional members are on the surveillance too, no one is excluded. They are all included. So, yes, this can happen to anyone. If they become a target for whatever reason Ė they are targeted by the government, the government can go in, or the FBI, or other agencies of the government, they can go into their database, pull all that data collected on them over the years, and we analyze it all. So, we have to actively analyze everything theyíve done for the last 10 years at least.

RT: And itís not just about those, who could be planning, who could be a threat to national security, but also those, who could be justÖ

WB: Itís everybody. The Naris device, if it takes in the entire line, so it takes in all the data. In fact they advertised they can process the lines at session rates, which means 10-gigabit lines. I forgot the name of the device (itís not the Naris)Ė the other one does it at 10 gigabits. Thatís why they're building Bluffdale [database facility], because they have to have more storage, because they canít figure out whatís important, so they are just storing everything there. So, emails are going to be stored there in the future, but right now stored in different places around the country. But it is being collected Ė and the FBI has access to it.

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#2 Dec 5, 2012
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RT: You mean itís being collected in bulk without even requesting providers?

WB: Yes.

RT: Then what about Google, you know, releasing this biannual transparency report and saying that the governmentís demands for personal data is at an all-time high and for all of those requesting the US, Google says they complied with the governmentís demands 90 percent of the time. But they are still saying that they are making the request, itís not like itís all being funneled into that storage. What do you say to that?

WB: I would assume that itís just simply another source for the same data they are already collecting. My line is in declarations in a court about the 18-T facility in San Francisco, that documented the NSA room inside that AST&T facility, where they had Naris devices to collect data off the fiber optic lines inside the United States. So, thatís kind of a powerful device, that would collect everything it was being sent. It could collect on the order over of 100 billion 1,000-character emails a day. One device.

RT: You say they sift through billions of e-mails. I wonder how do they prioritize? How do they filter it?

WB: I donít think they are filtering it. They are just storing it. I think itís just a matter of selecting when they want it. So, if they want to target you, they would take your attributes, go into that database and pull out all your data.

RT: Were you on the target list?

WB: Oh, sure! I believe Iíve been on it for quite a few years. So I keep telling them everything I think of them in my email. So that when they want to read it theyíll understand what I think of them.

RT: Do you think we all should leave messages for the NSA mail box?

WB: Sure!

RT: You blew the whistle on the agency when George W. Bush was the president. With President Obama in office, in your opinion, has anything changed at the agency, in the surveillance program? In what direction is this administration moving?

WB: The change is itís getting worse. They are doing more. He is supporting the building of the Bluffdale facility, which is over two billion dollars they are spending on storage room for data. That means that they are collecting a lot more now and need more storage for it. That facility by my calculations that I submitted to the court for the Electronic Frontiers Foundation against NSA would hold on the order of 5 zettabytes of data. Just that current storage capacity is being advertised on the web that you can buy. And thatís not talking about what they have in the near future.

RT: What are they going to do with all of that? Ok, they are storing something. Why should anybody be concerned?

WB: If you ever get on the enemies list, like Petraeus did orÖ for whatever reason, than you can be drained into that surveillance....

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#3 Dec 5, 2012
Tim

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#4 Dec 5, 2012
LOL, the Russian government ripping the US for invading privacy
Tim

Akron, OH

#5 Dec 5, 2012
RT is SVR propaganda, don't trust a thing they say

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#6 Dec 5, 2012
Tim wrote:
RT is SVR propaganda, don't trust a thing they say
Regardless, I have no doubt concerning our government's invasion of citizens' privacy...particularly, online. It's a new century with new dangers...led by a government which is not a protector of our freedoms.
Tim

Akron, OH

#7 Dec 5, 2012
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Regardless, I have no doubt concerning our government's invasion of citizens' privacy...particularly, online. It's a new century with new dangers...led by a government which is not a protector of our freedoms.
Privacy is a myth

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#8 Dec 5, 2012
Tim wrote:
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Privacy is a myth
Still, there must be limits to government's use of this information.
The potential consequences, as mentioned above, are frightening.
Tim

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#9 Dec 5, 2012
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Still, there must be limits to government's use of this information.
The potential consequences, as mentioned above, are frightening.
C'mon, are they really going to be able to use all this junk?

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#10 Dec 5, 2012
Tim wrote:
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C'mon, are they really going to be able to use all this junk?
Did you forget the Obama campaign's "Truth Team -- Attack Watch" endeavor where supporters can click a clink to "Report an Attack" against Obama?

http://www.barackobama.com/truth-team/attack-...
Tim

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#11 Dec 5, 2012
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Did you forget the Obama campaign's "Truth Team -- Attack Watch" endeavor where supporters can click a clink to "Report an Attack" against Obama?
http://www.barackobama.com/truth-team/attack-...
And how many prosecutions resulted from that?

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#12 Dec 5, 2012
Tim wrote:
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And how many prosecutions resulted from that?
As a student of Marxist philosophy, you should know that such prosecutions are not out of the realm of possibility as centralized power aggrandizes in Washington.

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#13 Dec 5, 2012
And, in fact, to our shame, a president set historical precedent: Abraham Lincoln...anyone?

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#14 Dec 5, 2012
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Did you forget the Obama campaign's "Truth Team -- Attack Watch" endeavor where supporters can click a clink to "Report an Attack" against Obama?
http://www.barackobama.com/truth-team/attack-...
The dangers are not in tracking contributors to rumor control.

The danger has to do with the kind of domestic espionage and intrusion that the FBI engaged in under Hoover and COINTELPRO.

And the reality is that FBI intrusion and abuse appears to have crossed many administrations for decades.

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#15 Dec 5, 2012
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The dangers are not in tracking contributors to rumor control.
The danger has to do with the kind of domestic espionage and intrusion that the FBI engaged in under Hoover and COINTELPRO.
And the reality is that FBI intrusion and abuse appears to have crossed many administrations for decades.
Obama's encouraging citizens to report on citizens is straight out of Stalin's Good Citizenship Manual.
Naturally, you have no problem with it.

The point is that when those citizens' names are acquired, the government may launch a search into its stored data of citizens' online activities, and commence whatever surveillance it pleases under whatever guise it names.

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#16 Dec 5, 2012
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Obama's encouraging citizens to report on citizens is straight out of Stalin's Good Citizenship Manual.
Naturally, you have no problem with it.
The point is that when those citizens' names are acquired, the government may launch a search into its stored data of citizens' online activities, and commence whatever surveillance it pleases under whatever guise it names.
That was not Obama as President, but Obama as candidate (it tracks back to before his first term in office).

And, it has nothing to do with taking action against persons, only correcting misinformation.

Are you opposed to fact-checking and rumor control?

You may want to ponder the uses of "dysinformation" for propaganda and other uses. It is certainly no less evil in it's potential than the things that you fear.

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#17 Dec 5, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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That was not Obama as President, but Obama as candidate (it tracks back to before his first term in office).
And, it has nothing to do with taking action against persons, only correcting misinformation.
Are you opposed to fact-checking and rumor control?
You may want to ponder the uses of "dysinformation" for propaganda and other uses. It is certainly no less evil in it's potential than the things that you fear.
Speaking of disinformation, please note the following at the bottom of Obama's website:

© 2011Ė2012 Obama for America. All Rights Reserved.

***

He's been playing Stalin for over four years.

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#18 Dec 5, 2012
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As a student of Marxist philosophy, you should know that such prosecutions are not out of the realm of possibility as centralized power aggrandizes in Washington.
Answer the question, lackey.

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#19 Dec 5, 2012
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Speaking of disinformation, please note the following at the bottom of Obama's website:
© 2011Ė2012 Obama for America. All Rights Reserved.
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He's been playing Stalin for over four years.
1. No, he has not bee "playing Stalin," and

2. What is your point with regard to the copyright on his campaign website?

3. You do understand that the campaign and th government are completely separate entities, right?

Hugh Victor Thompson III

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#20 Dec 5, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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3. You do understand that the campaign and th government are completely separate entities, right?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
If that were true, your boy would have been calling the moving vans for January 20.

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