Driver's-ed maneuver in question after crash | The Columbus Dispatch

A 16-year-old driving student who was killed on I-270 on July 1 might have been learning how to get on and off a freeway berm. Read more
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oldham

Bowling Green, OH

#3 Aug 20, 2010
I feel that student drivers, need to know how to pull off the pavement and onto the berm,then return to the pavement safely. This of course needs to be done at a safe speed.
Big Hank

Columbus, OH

#4 Aug 20, 2010
Agree with RUserious - I realize you live to make incendiary comments on these boards, Fargin, but try to pick your spots a little better. A 16-year old is dead, the man that hit the car is traumatized - your comic relief in this situation is way out of line.
Concerned

Westerville, OH

#5 Aug 20, 2010
Big Hank wrote:
Agree with RUserious - I realize you live to make incendiary comments on these boards, Fargin, but try to pick your spots a little better. A 16-year old is dead, the man that hit the car is traumatized - your comic relief in this situation is way out of line.
I agree! You can tell when school is out, the kids are bored out of their minds and have no better things to do than try to be funny at a persons infortunate situation. School will be open soon and we can have post present decent conversations without the kids playing around. Or, this poor kid just may be home schooled and the parents stepped out of the room. Parents, check your kids. I cannot imagine an adult making such insensitive remarks!
Tom

Dayton, OH

#6 Aug 20, 2010
To R U serious the next time you have any kind of thought keep it to yourself. It is a shame something so cold and stupid should be allowed on a site such as this. You must have no heart or compassion to make such a hurtful comment. What comes around goes around.
ihateKiaSorentos

Columbus, OH

#7 Aug 20, 2010
Why aren't more Driver's Education schools teaching students how to exit and re-enter freeway emergency lanes. I've needed to use them, in my past, and found them a challenge. Wish my instructor had taken the time to teach me a trick or two.
The accident rate of young drivers is so high due to bad habits, usually passed on by the parents. Tailgating, speeding, talking on cell phones and texting, just to name a few.
This was an accident was purely caused by an irresponsible driver, Daniel Jacobs, who was apparently speeding. Want to bet he was on the phone too?
bus driver

Sheridan, AR

#8 Aug 20, 2010
I beleive when I took my driving test to be a bus driver I was required to do an emergency pull off and return to the highway. It may not be included any longer, it has been a while, but it was on the driving portion of the test.
Marcy

Columbus, OH

#11 Aug 20, 2010
wow this is a tragic story. I couldn't imagine how the parents are feeling. They trust a stranger to take their child out and teach them how to drive safely and then the child was killed. Hopefully the instructors will take this accident and change their instructing a little bit, like when you want to discuss the driving that was just done, exit off of the freeway and go to a parking lot, When I was in drivers ed our instructor would wait until the end of the day before he would discuss our driving, unless we did something really bad that he needed to address it right away.
My thoughts and prayers go out to this family!
Rosemary

Marysville, OH

#12 Aug 20, 2010
I can remember when I was learning to drive, doing this same maneuver and 30 years ago it could be done without problem. Now it seems that people are in a hurry to much. I am in fear everyday with teenage drivers on the road and it's not them in all accidents, it is the other driver. I have seen drivers, pass on double yellow lines, on hills, and even pass 5 other vehicles at one time. Since when did this become legal? Drivers need to slow down and think about the other guy. Did this car get over to give this boy access to the road? People are being rude and I am all for driving without texting or cellphones. You are in the car to get somewhere safe not to talk on phones. Come on guys, learn to take it slow, whatever you going to will still be there, BUT you may not.
Rosemary

Marysville, OH

#13 Aug 20, 2010
May someone should show Fargin the OSHP the accident pictures, then maybe he might think again on what is really important: Living or dying.

“I wake up and piss excellence”

Since: Nov 09

Columbus, OH

#14 Aug 20, 2010
This guy that hit them, Jacobs, really screwed up. Instead of swerving away from them he swerved directly into them and it doesn't make much sense. Regardless, I'm sure they'll make him pay. I agree that this type of training should've been done at time of much less traffic, but I can see why he was teaching him this. Sad, but it's just one of those things.
I TOLD YOU SO

Zanesville, OH

#15 Aug 20, 2010
A car is a very, very dangerous piece of machinery. Unfortunately, parents and children literally believe that a car is just another TOY. There is a total lack of seriousness when it comes to motor vehicle safety in society and the inevitable and predictable result is the just unending murder and mayhem we have on the roads. At every hour of the day, the cops are scraping the bodies off the road. Adding to the problem is the unassailable fact that the police do NOT use accessible tools, right at hand, to enforce the law. The Police believe that cars are toys, too. If the Rules and the laws were ACTUALLY enforced by people - the Police - we are paying lots of money to, you'd see an IMMEDIATE decline in the numbers of murders on the road. I TOLD YOU SO, DIDN'T I!
Poor judgement

Columbus, OH

#16 Aug 20, 2010
Pulling off to side of road at 6 pm on a weeknight (Rush Hour!!)?!? I think it's the driving instructor that needs lessons. Please keep this lunatic off the road. Idiot.
darn

Marengo, OH

#17 Aug 20, 2010
lets hope booze wasn't involved in this incident.
Wall Smarts

Columbus, OH

#18 Aug 20, 2010
The driver at fault is clearly the guy in the Kia who rear-ended their car.

Quit blaming the victim here!

Honestly....
Abbie

Pickerington, OH

#19 Aug 20, 2010
I took driving at the academy 15 years ago and I was on the Freeway and down town. all my kids have taken driving their and they cover all the taticks.
Duderino

Toledo, OH

#22 Aug 20, 2010
There is blame to be assigned here and it is on the driving instructor. July 1st was a Thursday and shortly before 6pm is the heart of rush hour. That's a pretty busy stretch of I270 and it is no place for a student driver. If you have to teach that element, do it at 10am on a Saturday.

I've been driving for almost 30 years and I've had to pull over to the side of the highway about a dozen times in my life. It's still pretty intense merging back into traffic during rush hour and I think most people in that situation should probably wait for a trooper to come by and clear the way with some flashers.

Since: Jun 10

Columbus, OH

#23 Aug 20, 2010
nastyNate wrote:
This guy that hit them, Jacobs, really screwed up. Instead of swerving away from them he swerved directly into them and it doesn't make much sense. Regardless, I'm sure they'll make him pay. I agree that this type of training should've been done at time of much less traffic, but I can see why he was teaching him this. Sad, but it's just one of those things.
I'm sure swerving away from them meant swerving into the other lanes of traffic.
Sheridan Whiteside

Carlsbad, CA

#24 Aug 20, 2010
Needs to be cited post-mortem. The instructor evidently was teaching a dangerous and illegal maneuver. The only reason ever to pull to the side on a freeway is due to emergency or breakdown. There is an epidemic of idiocy on the freeways nowadays.

“I wake up and piss excellence”

Since: Nov 09

Columbus, OH

#25 Aug 20, 2010
RevolutionNo9 wrote:
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I'm sure swerving away from them meant swerving into the other lanes of traffic.
Maybe. He really shouldn't have been swerving at all.
ihateKiaSorentos

Columbus, OH

#26 Aug 20, 2010
Hey read the Ohio state requirements! http://www.drivertraining.ohio.gov/freeway.pd...

It is the responcibility of all driving schools to help students receive freeway driving, night driving, foul weather, or handling of emergencies with a licensed instructor.(see above PDF)
(From PDF)
"These are critical skills for the teenage driver to experience with supervision prior to
being allowed to drive under these situations without adult supervision. Be sure to
consult with the driver training school at the beginning of the classroom training to
ensure that your teenager receives a freeway driving lesson with the school, and if
possible, the night time lesson. The weather and emergencies cannot be planned for
every student; it is the parent’s responsibility to supervise the driving for Lessons #12-
14.
· Lesson #10 – Highway Driving (freeway driving or controlled access highways
is a required curriculum activity for the driving school to provide)
· Lesson #11 – Night Driving (schools are required to provide this training in the
car when possible)
· Lesson #12 – Foul weather driving
· Lesson #13 – Tricky and Treacherous Driving Situations
· Lesson #14 - Handling Emergencies and Crashes"

If your driver's education school doesn't offer this training it is not meeting state requirements!

And I learned this in a three minute web search!
p.s.- rush hour is refered to as "High volume traffic"

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