Russell Co. Landfill
kawita native

Pine Mountain, GA

#1 Feb 7, 2011
After flip-flopping on a previous unanimous vote against the landfill, it seems the Russell Co. Commission was a little wary about getting the public involved in the Landfill issue judging from the significant presence of law enforcement at today's standing room only meeting. I'd like to ask the Commissioners to try not to be so full of themselves. It's not personal! This isn't about you!

Speaking for the Commission, Peggy Martin explained the rules of the meeting as set up by the commission members. The only citizens allowed to voice opinions were those who signed a "sign-in sheet" which most attendees knew nothing about. There would be time allotted to those for the landfill, for those against, and those who were neutral.

Commissioner Epps took center stage by verbally spanking her voters and the news media by accusing them and what she angrily referred to as "outsiders" for meddling and blowing the issue out of proportion. The truth is, the only so-called outsiders were experts on issues of this nature who spoke for both sides. Obviously irritated, Commissioner Epps then explained, she would not give a response on this issue until she votes Wednesday night. One would think that after a unanimous vote of "no" in 2009 we would know where the commission stands. I hope the voters she represents have the same forgiving spirit she claims to possess. After all, the commission`s had over a year to gather the facts and think this through. The vast majority attending the meeting were from Phenix City and Russell Co. so when Commissioner Lee asked for a show of hands by all those in the room, the result was about 3 to 1 against the landfill. This was acknowledged by Commissioner Lee.

The show stopper was Commissioner Pugh trying to side step the issue and avoid stepping on any of the B-staff toes by giving them what sounded like his blessing on a private, non-regulated landfill.

Most everyone feels that private land owners should be free to do as they wish on their land as long as it has little negative impact on the community or those who live down-stream. The big question is, why at this time, locate another landfill so close to the river when studies show we have 318 years on existing landfills? And, if this goes through, who is going to monitor the construction and running of this facility? Rest assured it wont be the County Commission. After all, these are the same people who buy around 800,000 gallons of water a day from Phenix City. Those are the figures from the water Authority's web-page. Did the Commission or anyone else bother to tell you Phenix City was in violation of EPA standards and regulations 88 times between 2003 and 2008? Most of these violations appear to be related to testing, monitoring and reporting according to the data we read on the EPA enviro-facts site. Look at it for yourself. We may be reading this wrong! Voters simply want to know. Who's gonna mind the store?

If the owners of this property are really interested in what`s best for the community as opposed to making a quick buck, maybe they would consider donating this land to the city and county in an effort to preserve that area's historical and Native American significance.
Mr Snyder

Pine Mountain, GA

#2 Feb 8, 2011
kawita native wrote:
After flip-flopping on a previous unanimous vote against the landfill, it seems the Russell Co. Commission was a little wary about getting the public involved in the Landfill issue judging from the significant presence of law enforcement at today's standing room only meeting. I'd like to ask the Commissioners to try not to be so full of themselves. It's not personal! This isn't about you!
Speaking for the Commission, Peggy Martin explained the rules of the meeting as set up by the commission members. The only citizens allowed to voice opinions were those who signed a "sign-in sheet" which most attendees knew nothing about. There would be time allotted to those for the landfill, for those against, and those who were neutral.
Commissioner Epps took center stage by verbally spanking her voters and the news media by accusing them and what she angrily referred to as "outsiders" for meddling and blowing the issue out of proportion. The truth is, the only so-called outsiders were experts on issues of this nature who spoke for both sides. Obviously irritated, Commissioner Epps then explained, she would not give a response on this issue until she votes Wednesday night. One would think that after a unanimous vote of "no" in 2009 we would know where the commission stands. I hope the voters she represents have the same forgiving spirit she claims to possess. After all, the commission`s had over a year to gather the facts and think this through. The vast majority attending the meeting were from Phenix City and Russell Co. so when Commissioner Lee asked for a show of hands by all those in the room, the result was about 3 to 1 against the landfill. This was acknowledged by Commissioner Lee.
The show stopper was Commissioner Pugh trying to side step the issue and avoid stepping on any of the B-staff toes by giving them what sounded like his blessing on a private, non-regulated landfill.
Most everyone feels that private land owners should be free to do as they wish on their land as long as it has little negative impact on the community or those who live down-stream. The big question is, why at this time, locate another landfill so close to the river when studies show we have 318 years on existing landfills? And, if this goes through, who is going to monitor the construction and running of this facility? Rest assured it wont be the County Commission. After all, these are the same people who buy around 800,000 gallons of water a day from Phenix City. Those are the figures from the water Authority's web-page. Did the Commission or anyone else bother to tell you Phenix City was in violation of EPA standards and regulations 88 times between 2003 and 2008? Most of these violations appear to be related to testing, monitoring and reporting according to the data we read on the EPA enviro-facts site. Look at it for yourself. We may be reading this wrong! Voters simply want to know. Who's gonna mind the store?
If the owners of this property are really interested in what`s best for the community as opposed to making a quick buck, maybe they would consider donating this land to the city and county in an effort to preserve that area's historical and Native American significance.
Did you mean 80.000 rather than 800.000?
A friend who still lives in PC. said he went to the meeting and thought he was going to get a pat-down at the door!
kawita native

Pine Mountain, GA

#3 Feb 9, 2011
Mr Snyder wrote:
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Did you mean 80.000 rather than 800.000?
A friend who still lives in PC. said he went to the meeting and thought he was going to get a pat-down at the door!
No! It`s 800,000
Mr Snyder

Pine Mountain, GA

#4 Feb 9, 2011
kawita native wrote:
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No! It`s 800,000
Well...Native, it looks like your landfill issue is going to go national. My buddy in PC. says the word is, this thing is going to get nation wide exposure if it goes through. The focus of the national media is going to be more on the way elected officials handled the matter rather than the landfill itself. Even if it doesn't get passed he said things were going to get real interesting. Good Luck in Hooter-ville!
Not a Riley Fan

Eastanollee, GA

#5 Feb 9, 2011
Debate over. No landfill. Commission voted 5-1-1 to deny landfill. Ronnie Reed voted to allow. Larry Screws abstained.
Miss Congeniality

Pine Mountain, GA

#6 Feb 9, 2011
Hurray! No new landfill. Ridiculous that it was even up for a vote, as it was not needed and in the worst of locations. My beef is with 4 of the commissioners:

Commissioner Reed stated he voted "no" because of the pressure and presence of "outsiders" and due to the fact that he felt "intimidated". If that is what determines his decision to poison our environment and endanger the health of his constituents, I must question his logic and sense of responsibility to those he is elected to serve. It baffles me that an elected official could display such a childish and immature decision - making process. Talk about pretzel logic! How on earth did he get that seat?

Commissioner Epps, even though she voted against the landfill, expressed anger over the issue being "blown out of proportion" and also complained about the presence of "outsiders". Doesn't Ms. Epps realize that the potential effects of this proposed landfill reach far beyond Russell County? She stated that the commission could have handled it on their own, as though the citizens and those pesky "outsiders" should have stayed out of it. I have a sneaking suspicion that if citizens and "outsiders" hadn't become involved, the vote may have been quite different. She stated she hoped to see us in her church, but obviously she didn't like us showing up at the meeting and blowing everything out of proportion! Sounds like she prefers to operate behind closed doors.

Commissioner Screws, who represents my own district, abstained. What the? You certainly won't have my vote again, Mr. Chicken.

Commissioner Pugh, who voted against the landfill, whined about hearing only opinions and no facts, noting that the sand at the bottom of the landfill might actually purify the groundwater underneath all that toxic waste! What science class did you take? And there was plenty of factual information given at the public hearing on Monday night, including the information provided by the doctor from the CDC and others with exemplary credentials.

SHAME ON YOU 4!!!!!
Mr Snyder

Pine Mountain, GA

#7 Feb 9, 2011
Not a Riley Fan wrote:
Debate over. No landfill. Commission voted 5-1-1 to deny landfill. Ronnie Reed voted to allow. Larry Screws abstained.
Wrong...Not over. The debate may be over for now, but the voters ain't through with the way the commission miss-handled it. Back room deals, conflicts of interest and lots more according to a few who are in the know. It ain't going away...Just a little quiet time before the storm.

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