Sheriffs Dept. / PIMP OUR RIDES

Sheriffs Dept. / PIMP OUR RIDES

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kawita native

Pine Mountain, GA

#1 Feb 8, 2011
At a time of high unemployment, high cost of living, increased property taxes, falling property values and the general public being forced to cut back on every level, The Russell County Sheriffs Dept. is going to spend thousands of dollars changing the color scheme and graphics on their fleet. Not only do they plan on repainting the fleet a different color which is normally twice the cost of going back the same color, they also intend on pimping-up the graphics and adding a big car number so the helicopter can see them. Come on people!

They will tell you that upgrades to the existing fleet is necessary and more cost effective than buying new cars. True, but they also plan on buying new cars. Paint and graphics don't improve the mechanical reliability of the fleet nor does it improve the effectiveness or efficiency of the Dept. These are the sort of things the Commission likes to waste your money on. Awhile back, someone said The Commission voted to increased the Library`s budget by ($5.00) for the year. Five dollars to an institution that gives poor kids a place to go and improve their chances of not landing in the sheriffs jail. Where are our priorities?
woodcutterron

Valley, AL

#2 Feb 8, 2011
Well ...I've been to the Phenix City library ...not a lot of kids in there trying to stay out of jail, unfortunately. The best way to keep poor kids out of jail is to stop subsidizing poor parents to sit on their butts except when they decide to create another 'recipient' to boost the monthly life subsidies.

That being said ... I kinda see where you're coming from. A full fleet repaint doesn't seem to be good stewardship of our tax dollars. On the other hand, Roof numbers are actually a pretty good idea, and in-and-of-itself wouldn't be all that pricey.

And gotta replace some cars eventually. I do agree that keeping the color scheme the same and only painting the cars that actually need it would be much better stewardship.
kawita native

Pine Mountain, GA

#3 Feb 9, 2011
Wrong Big Daddy! You should go more often. I`m in the library on a regular basis and run into lots of kids as well as adults who use and benefit from it a heck-of a lot more than they will god-damn roof numbers. They need to lay off the cop shows and visit the library themselves.
Not a Riley Fan

Eastanollee, GA

#4 Feb 9, 2011
You can get your point across without such language. Technology has changed in the painting industry over the years and doubling the cost is no longer the norm for changing colors for a vehicle. This is not the first time, and it certainly will not be the last time, the colors of the patrol cars change color. I can remember the brown and tan cars that were changed to the white cars and now the change is to black. Decals are probably cheaper today than they were when they were when we had the brown and tan vehicles of my younger days.
kawita native

Pine Mountain, GA

#5 Feb 9, 2011
Not a Riley Fan wrote:
You can get your point across without such language. Technology has changed in the painting industry over the years and doubling the cost is no longer the norm for changing colors for a vehicle. This is not the first time, and it certainly will not be the last time, the colors of the patrol cars change color. I can remember the brown and tan cars that were changed to the white cars and now the change is to black. Decals are probably cheaper today than they were when they were when we had the brown and tan vehicles of my younger days.
So your saying it`s wise spending? How long have you been doing fender and body work? If you`ve been around it at all you would would know just how wrong you are. First off, there`s very little technology involved in the process. The majority of the job is the prep work which is pretty much done by hand and pretty much just as if not more labor intensive as was in late sixties/early seventies. The materials have had major technological advances which in some cases make the job more labor intensive and cost about 10 times what they did in the seventies but result in a better product. It`s your money. If you think that sort of thinking and spending is justifiable, so be it. Personally I think it`s childish and selfish. I also believe that kind of thinking will be damned by God so if I were you, I wouldnt worry to much about my language!
Not a Riley Fan

Eastanollee, GA

#6 Feb 10, 2011
With your moniker, just asking, were you the president of the Phenix City Bass Club that met in the old club house behind Garrrett Stadium back in the 1970s? If so, David Duke says "Hello." By the way, how's the investigation of the Patterson murder going? I do not think my way of thinking will be damned by God. Worry about your own soul.
Mr Snyder

Pine Mountain, GA

#7 Feb 10, 2011
Not that it matters...Gotta agree with native. Childish useless waste. But...We love that dont we?
kawita native

Pine Mountain, GA

#8 Feb 10, 2011
Not a Riley Fan wrote:
With your moniker, just asking, were you the president of the Phenix City Bass Club that met in the old club house behind Garrrett Stadium back in the 1970s? If so, David Duke says "Hello." By the way, how's the investigation of the Patterson murder going? I do not think my way of thinking will be damned by God. Worry about your own soul.
Don't know David Duke. No bass club. No Patterson investigation. I was under the impression they had that figured out long ago? You question is interesting though. Is there more that needs looking at there?
Willie Wonka

Phenix City, AL

#9 Feb 10, 2011
Riley is just being "frank" with his words. The bass club in the 1970s was the Klan as in KKK meeting in a city building. The grand dragon or whatever you call him was a city employee who was renting the building under the bass club name. Same former employee is now claiming not to be of the KKK clan but rather a native indian clan. David Duke was once the grand wizard or whatever you call the top KKK leader in the USA. Same former employee is still spending his time, since he does not work, "investigating" the murder of Albert Patterson as if it matter anymore. Hope that explains the cryptic note from Riley.
kawita native

Pine Mountain, GA

#10 Feb 10, 2011
Wow! Were have I been. Still in the dark though. Would love to know more.
Coach Bob

Phenix City, AL

#11 Feb 12, 2011
Kawita native must be a kawita transplant. All that happened in the 1970s. The employee was fired from his job with the city thank goodness. Now he tries to pawn himself off as an indian. Maybe he thinks he can get a legal bingo casino in Russell County. Hey, maybe they can put it where the county commission denied allowing a landfill. It would be so fitting to see garbage get a garbage location. The employee's last name was Franklin.
kawita native

Pine Mountain, GA

#12 Feb 14, 2011
I must have missed all that. Trying to figure out who that would have been.

The casino thing sounds like a good idea. And since the Russell County Commission opened the door to Ronnie Gilly and electronic bingo back in 2009 why not? I'm sure it would provide lots more jobs and income than an unneeded dump!
Woodcutterron

Valley, AL

#13 Feb 15, 2011
kawita native wrote:
Wrong Big Daddy! You should go more often. I`m in the library on a regular basis and run into lots of kids as well as adults who use and benefit from it a heck-of a lot more than they will god-damn roof numbers. They need to lay off the cop shows and visit the library themselves.
Wow, heheheh, Dazzling support of your position.
Word

United States

#14 Mar 7, 2011
painting the vehicles was done with money already set aside from last years budget and is something that every incoming sheriff does to put his mark on the office. I have lived here my entire 45 years and we have only had 3 since I was old enough to drive!
Prentice Griffith, Tommy Boswell and now Heath Taylor.
while I have to agree, the money may have been better spent elsewhere, this is not a new or self serving strategy to have the new sheriffs name plastered on all his cars, its the same thing thats been done for at least 30 years, and probably since the beginning of the sheriffs office using automobiles instead of horse and buggy!
think about it this way, you get elected sheriff and are told by the county commission to get the cars painted to reflect the fact, what do you do?
"paint the cars"!
Mr Snyder

Newnan, GA

#15 Mar 7, 2011
Yea...You mean, similar to a dog pissing on a fire hydrant to mark his office. Hummm.

You make it sound as if they knew a year ahead that Heath was going to be the new Sheriff and since they had left over money, they needed to piss it away. Got to get rid of the left-overs so we can ask for more next year. After all...It`s been done for 30 yrs. Makes about as much sense as someone saying they been smoking cigarettes for 30 yrs...No need to change things now!
Word

United States

#16 Mar 8, 2011
Mr Snyder wrote:
Yea...You mean, similar to a dog pissing on a fire hydrant to mark his office. Hummm.
You make it sound as if they knew a year ahead that Heath was going to be the new Sheriff and since they had left over money, they needed to piss it away. Got to get rid of the left-overs so we can ask for more next year. After all...It`s been done for 30 yrs. Makes about as much sense as someone saying they been smoking cigarettes for 30 yrs...No need to change things now!
look, I am not trying to be a dick or anything, but you obviously dont have any idea what you're talking about!
No, they didnt know who was going to be the NEW sheriff, but they did know there would be a NEW sheriff! Tommy retired, so someone else would be replacing him.
the monies used for this kind of thing are BUDGETED for ahead of time, my point is the new sheriff didnt just arbitrarily decide to repaint the cars, the county commission did that. with that said, the job has a certain level of respect that comes with it, and repainting the cars was no different than changing the office letterhead on all the office paperwork. it just costs more.
and you are partially correct, in most public and private workplaces where budgets control spending, its a common practice to make sure to spend nearly all last years budget for your office or division in order to be able to justify asking for the same or more money the next year. basically, spend it all or they determine that you must not need that much and cut your budget next year when you will almost certainly need it.
I didnt mean to infer that I thought it was fiscally responsible to paint the vehicles in this economic environment, I only said I understood it!
Woodcutterron

Valley, AL

#17 Mar 11, 2011
He kinda got ya on the retirement thing Snyder, heheh.

I'm kind of "in between" ya'll on the painting of the cars though. On one hand, it IS important that the cars look reasonably good. On the other hand, there is no valid reason to paint a car that doesn't actually need to be painted, simply because a chief ...or a council or commission, likes some different color scheme, particularly in this economy. Just because it may have been earmarked for it last year or whatever doesn't set all the wheels irreversibly in motion.

While Word is correct in that the "spend it this year, or it won't be in next years budget" tenet of business is established in corporate and municipal business structures, I've worked under that inefficient and amazingly asinine budgetary scenario myself in the past, it doesn't make it sensible.

I was middle management, and that policy was the brainchild of corporate suits ... so of course I inefficiently bought a bunch of crap my department didn't need, just to insure my budget wouldn't get axed next year when I might really need things, heheh.

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