Trapped in the Creation Museum

Trapped in the Creation Museum

There are 30 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 20, 2008, titled Trapped in the Creation Museum. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

This story contains corrected material, published Jan. 20, 2008. Into the swampy debate over evolution has waded the new Creation Museum, in Petersburg, Ky.

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terry toepker

Columbus, OH

#1 Jan 22, 2008
I enjoyed reading the article "Trapped in the Creation Museum". While I have not visited the "museum", the article somehow brought to mind Orlando, Disney and "Night in the Museum." (The movie).
I could not locate the author at Columbia College and a philosophy department is not even listed in the college list of departments. I wonder if the "museum" sells the book by E.O. Wilson, The Creation ???
Best wishes
Fossil Bob

Urbana, IL

#2 Jan 22, 2008
"Trapped in the Creation Museum". It SOUNDS like a horror film!

As I and others have said, the author of the article points out that it's not really a museum: there are no artifacts (well...there's a few fossils), but instead the place is filled with made-up "exhibits". It's a "Creationist Dinseyland" ...it's NOT a museum!

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#3 Jan 22, 2008
Shortly after it opened, there were several bloggers from ScienceBlogs and the Panda's Thumb that went to see the place. They took a number of pictures and several wrote about their experiences there.

If you try Googling ScienceBlogs and Creation Museum, you will probably find some of the archived articles.
Roger

Phoenix, AZ

#4 Jan 25, 2008
I find it interesting that the author is frustrated by the Creation Museum's one-sided viewpoint. Yet the one-sided viewpoint of the mainstream museums is acceptable.

It is puzzling that another article "The New Theology" states that most people believe that God created man. Yet this article states that the majority of people do not believe in creationism. Is this proof of Mark Twain's famous quote regarding statistics? Or is is just sloppy journalism.

I would like to know why the author is confused by his assertion that most people do not believe in creationism, yet two-thirds want it taught in schools. Shouldn't all widely-held beliefs be discussed in schools? Wouldn't the exclusion of creation discussions go completely against what scholarship is all about?
Fossil Bob

Urbana, IL

#5 Jan 25, 2008
Roger wrote:
I find it interesting that the author is frustrated by the Creation Museum's one-sided viewpoint. Yet the one-sided viewpoint of the mainstream museums is acceptable.
It is puzzling that another article "The New Theology" states that most people believe that God created man. Yet this article states that the majority of people do not believe in creationism. Is this proof of Mark Twain's famous quote regarding statistics? Or is is just sloppy journalism.
I would like to know why the author is confused by his assertion that most people do not believe in creationism, yet two-thirds want it taught in schools. Shouldn't all widely-held beliefs be discussed in schools? Wouldn't the exclusion of creation discussions go completely against what scholarship is all about?
Museums are one-sided? They show real articles with our best interpretations based on evidence. There is truly no evidence for the "Creation Museum's claims! 6,000 year-old Earth, "Noah's Flood", etc...no evidence whatsoever...

Beliefs are not usually discussed in most classes in school.

In history class, you're supposed to learn history...not beliefs.

In science class...you learn science, not beliefs.

Communism, Anarchism, Islam, Christianity, Bahai, Atheism, and many, many others... these are widely-held beliefs. Which ones do we start with?

“Insert witty comment <here>”

Since: Aug 07

Wyoming, MI

#6 Jan 25, 2008
Roger wrote:
I find it interesting that the author is frustrated by the Creation Museum's one-sided viewpoint. Yet the one-sided viewpoint of the mainstream museums is acceptable.
It is puzzling that another article "The New Theology" states that most people believe that God created man. Yet this article states that the majority of people do not believe in creationism. Is this proof of Mark Twain's famous quote regarding statistics? Or is is just sloppy journalism.
I would like to know why the author is confused by his assertion that most people do not believe in creationism, yet two-thirds want it taught in schools. Shouldn't all widely-held beliefs be discussed in schools? Wouldn't the exclusion of creation discussions go completely against what scholarship is all about?
Scholarship is one thing. Propaganda flogging and attempts to brainwash people (forcing them one-way through the museum with no door handles on the way back) is another.

The people that go to this museum are going to fall into 2 camps. The first camp will be the people that nod and agree with everything they see in there. The second camp will be the people that go just for the spectacle and shake their heads in disbelief at the lunacy being presented.

I have a summer trip to the museum planned. I can't wait as I think it will be the most unbelievable part of the trip (and this trip includes a wedding of my 400+ pound aunt to someone).
barb

Louisville, KY

#7 Jan 27, 2008
what i don't understand is how many people are so upset about the very existence of the creation museum. there are museums about every thing under the sun including creation and no one seems to care. here is something to think about.....if you don't agree with the creation museum simply don't go. to me it all seems very simple.

p.s. i'll be praying for all the non-believers

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Since: Aug 07

Wyoming, MI

#8 Jan 27, 2008
barb wrote:
what i don't understand is how many people are so upset about the very existence of the creation museum. there are museums about every thing under the sun including creation and no one seems to care. here is something to think about.....if you don't agree with the creation museum simply don't go. to me it all seems very simple.
p.s. i'll be praying for all the non-believers
I'm not upset. I snicker about it. I love it that you bumpkins in the heartland are so bunged up about evolution that you had to spend $30 million to create a museum full of lies to promote your concept of the world. I love it when I get asked about the religious idiosyncracies of fellow Americans. I love it that you and your cronies try to force your mythology down my childrens' throats and call it Truth.

Please don't pray for me. You would just be wasting your breath.
Fossil Bob

Urbana, IL

#9 Jan 28, 2008
barb wrote:
what i don't understand is how many people are so upset about the very existence of the creation museum. there are museums about every thing under the sun including creation and no one seems to care. here is something to think about.....if you don't agree with the creation museum simply don't go. to me it all seems very simple.
p.s. i'll be praying for all the non-believers
It pretends to be a museum based on "science"... It is not. If it were called "Ken Ham's Biblical Beliefs World", no one would have much of a problem with it.

For instance: Archaeopteryx; the feathered, flying bird with dinosaur head, tail, hips, etc...

In the "Creation Museum", a model of it is shown with a BEAK! It has no beak!!!

It has a dinosaurian head, with jaws and a lot of sharp little teeth!. Their "exhibit" is an outright fraud; a lie; ...period.

It's NOT a matter of "interpretation". The jaws and teeth are CLEARLY visible in the fossils...

It's a lie...period. Please don't call that "truth" or "science"!

P.S.: why do you think "we" are all "non-believers"? The "Creation Museum" is nonsense: whether you're a believer or not!

“Restore the Republic”

Since: Jan 07

Burbs

#10 Jan 28, 2008
barb wrote:
what i don't understand is how many people are so upset about the very existence of the creation museum. there are museums about every thing under the sun including creation and no one seems to care. here is something to think about.....if you don't agree with the creation museum simply don't go. to me it all seems very simple.
p.s. i'll be praying for all the non-believers
Why? well for one why confuse a young mind ?

Child language studies and learning has shown that at a certain age you can show a child two clay spheres. They identify them as equal or having the same mass. Take one and roll it into a tube shape and even a child of 11 can discern that they are the SAME while a younger less developed child seems to think the ball is larger.

You are stifling to the learning process by not wanting them to see that one can be compatible with the other, meaning Belief in a God and Scientific findings can merge. Continually showing them the ball and telling them it is THIS that is greater does NOT make it so.

You might try growing a little yourself.

Since: Jan 08

Chicago

#11 Jan 28, 2008
Evangelical Christianity has turned into one big marketing campaign and while they are trying to spread the word to supposed non-believers, they are making themselves look ignorant and foolish. I believe in God... I don't believe in creationism in the sense that the world was created in six days. Does that mean I'm going to hell?

Since: Apr 07

United States

#12 Jan 28, 2008
I would like to figure out a way to purchase the soon to be financially strapped creation museum and turn it into a real science lab dedicated to the advancement of real science ...
Christian in Ky

Cincinnati, OH

#13 Jan 28, 2008
my left foot wrote:
I would like to figure out a way to purchase the soon to be financially strapped creation museum and turn it into a real science lab dedicated to the advancement of real science ...
This so called financially strapped museum is expanding as they have more than doubled their expected attendance in the first year.

My friend maybe you can take it over after the rapture and your here pondering why the Christians are gone.
Fossil Bob

Urbana, IL

#14 Jan 28, 2008
Christian in Ky wrote:
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This so called financially strapped museum is expanding as they have more than doubled their expected attendance in the first year.
My friend maybe you can take it over after the rapture and your here pondering why the Christians are gone.
But if they lied about the fossils (as I pointed out), what ELSE are they lying about!!!???
NostraTomas

United States

#15 Jan 28, 2008
Roger wrote:
I find it interesting that the author is frustrated by the Creation Museum's one-sided viewpoint. Yet the one-sided viewpoint of the mainstream museums is acceptable.
It is puzzling that another article "The New Theology" states that most people believe that God created man. Yet this article states that the majority of people do not believe in creationism. Is this proof of Mark Twain's famous quote regarding statistics? Or is is just sloppy journalism.
I would like to know why the author is confused by his assertion that most people do not believe in creationism, yet two-thirds want it taught in schools. Shouldn't all widely-held beliefs be discussed in schools? Wouldn't the exclusion of creation discussions go completely against what scholarship is all about?
Facts are not one sided, they are only sided. Creationism on the other hand has no sides at all, it's make believe just like religion. Yet billions of people honor it blindly. Humanity shall never be truly free & enlightened until the majority learn to stop thinking so primitively.

Since: Apr 07

United States

#16 Jan 28, 2008
barb wrote:
what i don't understand is how many people are so upset about the very existence of the creation museum. there are museums about every thing under the sun including creation and no one seems to care. here is something to think about.....if you don't agree with the creation museum simply don't go. to me it all seems very simple.
p.s. i'll be praying for all the non-believers
No one I know is upset and it's been reported they are going under anyway . It is funny though and to think that 30 million could have been put to really good use . Instead it supported pseudoscience . SAD

Since: Apr 07

United States

#17 Jan 28, 2008
Christian in Ky wrote:
<quoted text>
This so called financially strapped museum is expanding as they have more than doubled their expected attendance in the first year.
My friend maybe you can take it over after the rapture and your here pondering why the Christians are gone.
fairy tales and fables galore . Just Jewish folklore .....You've been duped my friend , duped !!

“Restore the Republic”

Since: Jan 07

Burbs

#18 Jan 28, 2008
my left foot wrote:
<quoted text>No one I know is upset and it's been reported they are going under anyway . It is funny though and to think that 30 million could have been put to really good use . Instead it supported pseudoscience . SAD
that is a great point MLF. imagine the work that could be done in Darfur.

“we do sarcasm and irony here”

Since: Aug 07

San Bernardino, CA

#19 Jan 28, 2008
Christian in Ky wrote:
<quoted text>
This so called financially strapped museum is expanding as they have more than doubled their expected attendance in the first year.
My friend maybe you can take it over after the rapture and your here pondering why the Christians are gone.
They are at Disneyland?
Frank

Fort Knox, KY

#20 Feb 6, 2008
<For instance: Archaeopteryx; the feathered, flying bird with dinosaur head, tail, hips, etc...
In the "Creation Museum", a model of it is shown with a BEAK! It has no beak!!!>
Have you been there and seen that model because I did a google search of the Archaeopteryx and the model at the creation museum is an EXACT replica of the fossil shown on secular science websites.
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