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'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate

There are 194063 comments on the thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com story from Oct 1, 2010, titled 'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate. In it, thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com reports that:

"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).

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Uncle Tab

United States

#109366 Jul 10, 2013
Enigma wrote:
These nuts on tv are saying they would find him guilty simply because he had a gun on his person.
You want these same people on your jury when you defend yourself with your hair barrette that's sharp or some other object that's not a gun. LOL!! They should find you innocent all because you do not have a gun.
It just doesn't get any stupider or crazy than these lunatic no sense morons.
According to what most of the crazies think, then all of us should just lay down and allow some deranged person to do whatever they like to us without defending ourself at all.
One person even said well, George should have scratched more......I kid you not! Yep, scratching will now prevent you from becoming dead as your head gets bashed into the cement!
You cannot make this stoopid ignorant stuff up.
The block watch rules said no gun. He wouldn't have had a gun unless he was looking for problems. If he wasn't looking for problems he would have stayed in his car.

Seems like people do realize what happened after all.

Good!
Jay

Paris, TN

#109367 Jul 10, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
Prosecution sure pointed out how Zimmerman got to the gun as Martin was backing away.
:-) that matters
*******
Forensic's say the shot was within inches. How was he backing away?
Enigma

Elizabethtown, KY

#109368 Jul 10, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
It is NOT against the law to get out of your car and look for someone! Especially IF you are neighborhood WATCH and suspect someone is "up to no good" ... After a LOT of burglaries in YOUR neighborhood, and being on the phone with dispatch!
A Transcript of the George Zimmerman Police Call
...
Dispatcher
Just let me know if he does anything, ok? <<<---<<<
Zimmerman
(unclear) See if you can get an officer over here.
Dispatcher
Yeah we've got someone on the way, just let me know if this guy does anything else. <<--<<<
http://bizsecurity.about.com/od/creatingpolic...
George WAS letting them know ... step by step!
THEN ... he got "sucker punched" ...
From out of nowhere!
THIS THUG had doubled back and sneaked up on Z-Man!
And you think this CHILD/THUG is innocent ...???
ha ha ha ...
Exactly!!! And how would he let them know if he didn't look to see what was going on? Exactly!!!

AL, these people do not get it that no one, absolutely no one told or forced this guy to double back, and sneak up on George. No one got inside his head and said go hit on this George guy. No one.
And they do not get that.

I would sure hate to be so dumb and dense that I was stupid enough to think for even a second that just because someone looks to see what you're doing then they deserve to be HIT or have their nose broken and knocked to the ground. OR that anyone that looked was "asking" to be hit and should therefore NOT defend themselves as I'm trying to knock them unconscious. As well as they should not fear for their life as I'm beating them up.

Good grief, I knew people were ignorant and willing to believe anything but God help them if they ever have an altercation of any kind.

heeheehee they better be prepared to scratch enough to make someone stop killing them......wheeee the looney tune express is out in full force today!!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#109369 Jul 10, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
<quoted text>
Block watch is not to get out of car or follow anyone... Hence block WATCH. also not allowed to carry guns. Finally, has to identify themselves.
He broke every rule.
Doubled back?:-D who said so? The one who killed the only witness?
Wrong wrong wrong.
You sank yourself on this one.
He WAS NOT ON DUTY!
He was driving through his neighborhood, going to the store himself!
He saw someone suspicious!

The rest is history!

Forget he was 'neighborhood watch', that is beside the point AT THIS TIME.

He was a man that called the police, after seeing something suspicious in HIS neighborhood, that happened to have a CCW gun on him....
And from what happened he WAS/IS justified in carrying it!

It's a good thing he did.
.
.

IF not it might have been Trayvon on trial!
If he didn't SNEAK away, like the snake he was, after doing his dirty work!
Uncle Tab

United States

#109370 Jul 10, 2013
Enigma wrote:
<quoted text>Thats sort of like a clerk in a grocery store telling me I don't have todo something aint it? Duh, he did was not "ordered NOT to do anything" and the dispatch cannot give orders either which he probably already knew.
He felt a responsibility to see if the person was doing anything untoward. He was looking out for his community and had every right to see what this gy was up to.
With your way of thinking, just because someone looks to see what you're doing, then you think its ok to attack the person for looking, even though he has already headed back to his vehicle.
How dare anyone look at anyone to see what their doing!!!!......Oh the wrongness of it all!
But the government does it to you and you get mad? Why? What's the difference from the government listening to your phone calls to make sure you aren't doing anything wrong?? And Zimmerman following Martin to make sure he isn't doing anything wrong?

Kinda curious how you explain two situations that are the same.
Enigma

Elizabethtown, KY

#109371 Jul 10, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand why kids get in do much trouble nowadays with parents like some of you here.
Some strange person is following someone's kid at night, armed no less, the kid tries to get away from the stranger and you insane people think a kid should go to the strange person following them and just tell them their name and where they live?
You all are horrible parents!! None of you should be parents. Worthless and putting your kids in danger telling to go identify themselves and tell the stranger where they live.
Probably the most insane thing I've heard you crackpots say.
Doing a disservice to your kids.
No one who is trying to get away doubles back and confronts by punching someone in the face. You can't be as ignorant as you make yourself sound with this statement.

Even the most uneducated dumb ass knows not to go looking for and starting a fight if you are not prepared for the consequences of that fight.

Oh, and Trademark Martin was NOT a kid. He was old enough to be alone at night, old enough to get someone pregnant, old enough to do drugs and use gang language, old enough to be a smart mouth, and OLD enough to know better than to act like a gangster.

Old enough to make HIS OWN choices, which he clearly did on this night which was a very wrong choice to make.

It is tragic but it is NOT murder. It IS self defense.
Uncle Tab

United States

#109372 Jul 10, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
He WAS NOT ON DUTY!
He was driving through his neighborhood, going to the store himself!
He saw someone suspicious!
The rest is history!
Forget he was 'neighborhood watch', that is beside the point AT THIS TIME.
He was a man that called the police, after seeing something suspicious in HIS neighborhood, that happened to have a CCW gun on him....
And from what happened he WAS/IS justified in carrying it!
It's a good thing he did.
.
.
IF not it might have been Trayvon on trial!
If he didn't SNEAK away, like the snake he was, after doing his dirty work!
He identifies himself on 911 as block watch... Sorry... He was on duty if he identified himself as block watch.

Which makes it even worse following someone with a gun and you're not on duty.

By your own admission he was hunting, not working.

Thanks!
Enigma

Elizabethtown, KY

#109373 Jul 10, 2013
treebeard wrote:
<quoted text>
once more.....
"Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that."
I don't need you to keep responding on here.... does that mean you won't or should not?

Waaaaaaahahahahahahahaahahahah aha!!!!......Nuts and Crackers!!!! Get on the Clue Bus, will ya.
Jay

Paris, TN

#109374 Jul 10, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
<quoted text>
Who saw that happen? No one. You're going by what Zimmerman said. It's impossible to you that Zimmerman was the aggressor? That being the case, Martin defends himself.
Only 2 ppl were involved. No one saw the first punch. So you can't assume that Martin threw it or that Zimmerman was walking back to his truck. No one saw it. Zimmerman said it. Zimmerman changed his story a few times. You can't deny it.
Credibility is shot.
********

Her credibility is not shot. The only way it would be is if GZ broke his own nose, laid on the ground and banged his own head until it bled. Oh please!

Furthermore, I heard the testimoney of a black lady today who defended GZ. He is someone she knew. Then there was the other witness who said he was only about 30 feet away when he yelled for them to stop, and said the man in the red jacket was on the ground under the other guy....then he went back to call 911 and heard the shot. So there were people who heard the yelling and saw them both.

And furthermore, the autopsy did not show TM had any bruising indicating being punched, only the hole from the gunshot and abrasion on the left hand/finger.
Uncle Tab

United States

#109375 Jul 10, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
********
Does anybody know if this jury is sequestered? The two times I served, it was not a murder case, but had it been, then we would have been sequestered. We were informed, however, that we should not discuss the cases with anyone. So, I'm thinking that this jury, if it is sequestered, does not read the paper and is not allowed to listen to the news. In this case they are not influenced by any media hype declaring that race riots are about to break out, etc., etc, if GZ is found not guilty. I can see how it's possible that if the juror's knew this they may fear about letting him go free - and decide somehow he must be punished or this may happen and it would be their decision that caused it. I know you understand what I'm saying here, right?
They should have been sequestered IMO but I don't think they were

“I was born a poor, black child”

Since: Jan 07

that weren't no easy thing

#109376 Jul 10, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
<quoted text>
But the government does it to you and you get mad? Why? What's the difference from the government listening to your phone calls to make sure you aren't doing anything wrong?? And Zimmerman following Martin to make sure he isn't doing anything wrong?
Kinda curious how you explain two situations that are the same.
Speaking of things being one and the same... I'm convinced AL and Enigma are the same dumb person.
Uncle Tab

United States

#109378 Jul 10, 2013
Enigma wrote:
<quoted text>No one who is trying to get away doubles back and confronts by punching someone in the face. You can't be as ignorant as you make yourself sound with this statement.
Even the most uneducated dumb ass knows not to go looking for and starting a fight if you are not prepared for the consequences of that fight.
Oh, and Trademark Martin was NOT a kid. He was old enough to be alone at night, old enough to get someone pregnant, old enough to do drugs and use gang language, old enough to be a smart mouth, and OLD enough to know better than to act like a gangster.
Old enough to make HIS OWN choices, which he clearly did on this night which was a very wrong choice to make.
It is tragic but it is NOT murder. It IS self defense.
Please tell me who besides Zimmerman saw Martin double back? And attack him. I don't care what source it comes from, as long as its someone besides Zimmerman and backs what Zimmerman says.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-2...

I'll be waiting.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#109379 Jul 10, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
<quoted text>
They should have been sequestered IMO but I don't think they were
You'd be WRONG!
Just liKe on everything else!
``````````

Yes Jay, they are sequestered!
Enigma

Elizabethtown, KY

#109380 Jul 10, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
********
Does anybody know if this jury is sequestered? The two times I served, it was not a murder case, but had it been, then we would have been sequestered. We were informed, however, that we should not discuss the cases with anyone. So, I'm thinking that this jury, if it is sequestered, does not read the paper and is not allowed to listen to the news. In this case they are not influenced by any media hype declaring that race riots are about to break out, etc., etc, if GZ is found not guilty. I can see how it's possible that if the juror's knew this they may fear about letting him go free - and decide somehow he must be punished or this may happen and it would be their decision that caused it. I know you understand what I'm saying here, right?
I completely understand what you're saying. The one trial I was involved in that was murder (via a vehicle) yes we were sequestered. No tv, no newspapers either.

However, with this corrupt judge hey, I'll bet she makes certain they have access to tv coverage and news. She has done everything else for the prosecution, she broke with the legalities of court when she rudely, forcefully clearly angered, DEMANDED George to tell whether he planed to testify. And against his attorneys objections to it. I have NEVER known of this being done and from what I've heard other judges are saying she needs to have her ass handed to her and never be allowed on the bench again.

This is the most CORRUPT example of being railroaded I have ever seen or heard of in my lifetime. The corruption is far reaching and wide. And if we the people take this sitting down then we deserve the same and worse treatment and I'm sure we will get it one way or another. All of us.
Uncle Tab

United States

#109381 Jul 10, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
*******
Forensic's say the shot was within inches. How was he backing away?
Because the gunshot wasn't against his skin. Someone has their hands beating your head against the sidewalk. Means they're very close to each other. He was shot in the chest. Front to back. The gun would have to be against zimmermans chest to fire into martins chest if he's laying on top of him. There are only inches between the bodies going by what you all claim happened.

If Martin is sitting up, getting up, then it'd be a few inches away.

It's simple.

“I was born a poor, black child”

Since: Jan 07

that weren't no easy thing

#109382 Jul 10, 2013
Enigma wrote:
<quoted text>I don't need you to keep responding on here.... does that mean you won't or should not?
Waaaaaaahahahahahahahaahahahah aha!!!!......Nuts and Crackers!!!! Get on the Clue Bus, will ya.
See? This is what happens when you try to ignore someone with this mentality. They go all George Zimmerman on you and start following you around.

***You make no sense whatsoever***
Uncle Tab

United States

#109383 Jul 10, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
********
Her credibility is not shot. The only way it would be is if GZ broke his own nose, laid on the ground and banged his own head until it bled. Oh please!
Furthermore, I heard the testimoney of a black lady today who defended GZ. He is someone she knew. Then there was the other witness who said he was only about 30 feet away when he yelled for them to stop, and said the man in the red jacket was on the ground under the other guy....then he went back to call 911 and heard the shot. So there were people who heard the yelling and saw them both.
And furthermore, the autopsy did not show TM had any bruising indicating being punched, only the hole from the gunshot and abrasion on the left hand/finger.
Beat Zimms head into concrete, none of Simms blood on his hands? Zimmerman head was bleeding alot? Pinched him in the face a few times, broke his nose, none if Zimms blood on his hands still??

Wow! That 17 year old sure knows alot about how to beat someone up and not get a drop of blood on himself.

Amazing huh?

Why bring up a black lady?? Why not just say a lady?
Uncle Tab

United States

#109384 Jul 10, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
You'd be WRONG!
Just liKe on everything else!
``````````
Yes Jay, they are sequestered!
I said I don't THINK so dumbass.

You have NO comprehension skills what so ever.

LMMFAO look up the word THINK and let us know what that word means.

LMAO stupid!
Uncle Tab

United States

#109385 Jul 10, 2013
Plus shooting someone on top of you and no blood on your white T-shirt?

How does THAT happen?? Another miracle??
Enigma

Elizabethtown, KY

#109386 Jul 10, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
<quoted text>
Because the gunshot wasn't against his skin. Someone has their hands beating your head against the sidewalk. Means they're very close to each other. He was shot in the chest. Front to back. The gun would have to be against zimmermans chest to fire into martins chest if he's laying on top of him. There are only inches between the bodies going by what you all claim happened.
If Martin is sitting up, getting up, then it'd be a few inches away.
It's simple.
I suggest you read the testimony of DiMao, the Forensics specialist.

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