Loch Raven school flap

Loch Raven school flap

There are 36 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from May 28, 2008, titled Loch Raven school flap. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Baltimore County Executive James T. Smith Jr. is taking a drubbing from vocal county residents who are upset over his support of some public school construction projects.

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Libglib

Abingdon, MD

#1 May 28, 2008
School projections show that the Central, Northeast and Southeast regions will be overcapacity by more than 1,000 students over the next 10 years. The Loch Raven project will not eliminate the overcrowding condition at Perry Hall High School, which has had trailers for 18 of the the last 20 years and will get a large part of the surge in the county caused by BRAC. Does this not justify a new school?
From the cheap seats

Halethorpe, MD

#2 May 28, 2008
After reading this I truly believe the editorial staff just makes stuff up. Very little, if any, real research when into this "opinion" before it was written.
Joe

Gwynn Oak, MD

#3 May 28, 2008
The neighborhood (or development, since that word makes property values go up) around Loch Raven High School is full of pompous rich folks who like to oppose anything that benefits the community for fear of losing a dollar off the value of their already overpriced homes. The people around their are CAVEs (Citizens Against Virtually Everything).
Tommy

Chalfont, PA

#4 May 28, 2008
Why not give vouchers to the kids? It would probably be cheaper and result in their receiving a better education.
Jimmy Smiths Lapdog

Upperco, MD

#5 May 28, 2008
Joe wrote:
The neighborhood (or development, since that word makes property values go up) around Loch Raven High School is full of pompous rich folks who like to oppose anything that benefits the community for fear of losing a dollar off the value of their already overpriced homes. The people around their are CAVEs (Citizens Against Virtually Everything).
This has nothing to do with property values, but has everything to do with quality of life. Traffic on Cromwell Bridge Road & Cowpens Avenue is already in excess of what these roads were designed to handle. The Smith administration's approval of the old Bohager's tent on Baltimore Lutheran School property has also increased traffic and congestion. Local enrollment at Loch Raven is declining. In an age of rising fuel costs and fuel shortages, it does not make sense to bus students in from great distances to Loch Raven. Building a new High school where the demand is is the logical choice. Not to mention that Comrade Smith has deprived local residents of due process of law by pushing this project through without public input.
Tim D

Parkville, MD

#6 May 28, 2008
Hold on. Isn't this the same county budget that includes $4 million for a new agriculture center @ Oregon Ridge?

Constituent hand-holding? I think the Smith administration needs to go over to Towson U and find a class in Public Relations 101.
Johnny Apple Seed

Manassas, VA

#7 May 28, 2008
Redistricting, you whiners. Put the city kids in the city. If you missed the citizens input with little thought, tough. This is about fiscal resposibility, period. If the country, state and counties are in fiscal recesion. Get a grip and pay to go to private school you rich silver spoons. You see teh rich whining. The poor do all teh volunteer work and lose their house. The new term FU all comes to mind. LOwer the bar. Go get a blow hard attorney. You have no case as usual. Grand standers with agenda fall hardest. No one really wanted the school to start with. Some idiot who works both sides of the fence fooled you. Marty, can we afford this?
Joe

Gwynn Oak, MD

#8 May 28, 2008
Jimmy Smiths Lapdog wrote:
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This has nothing to do with property values, but has everything to do with quality of life. Traffic on Cromwell Bridge Road & Cowpens Avenue is already in excess of what these roads were designed to handle. The Smith administration's approval of the old Bohager's tent on Baltimore Lutheran School property has also increased traffic and congestion. Local enrollment at Loch Raven is declining. In an age of rising fuel costs and fuel shortages, it does not make sense to bus students in from great distances to Loch Raven. Building a new High school where the demand is is the logical choice. Not to mention that Comrade Smith has deprived local residents of due process of law by pushing this project through without public input.
The kids in rural communities north of Loch Raven go to school there. Quite a distance. What costs more, bussing kids in or buying land and building a whole new school? That is the problem with the city; abandon old buildings and sprawl out to make new ones. Also, people can use Providence Rd to get to the Beltway. Due process of law doesn't work in that area because the CAVEs oppose anything that is suggested. They opposed renovating the Loch Raven dam that was in danger of bursting from age. Its all about convenience for the rich people in that area.
Johnny Apple Seed

Manassas, VA

#9 May 28, 2008
Fix the damn and put homeland security near the water. Do they want their water updated or live in fear of terrorist attacks? No common Sense!
Jimmy Smiths Lapdog

Upperco, MD

#10 May 28, 2008
Joe wrote:
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Its all about convenience for the rich people in that area.
You are totally correct, it is about convenience, and quality of life. "Rich people" as you call them, worked hard to get what they have, and they have every right to protect the quality of life that they have EARNED. This is how a capitalist society works...work hard to have a better place to live, and a better quality of life. With regard to due process of law, it is every citizen's right. Jimmy Smith is intent on making northern Baltimore County look just like his beautiful native Randallstown, because northern Baltimore County did not support him. Thankfully, Jimmy cannot run for another term as County Executive, so we will be rid of him in short order.
Johnny Apple Seed

Manassas, VA

#11 May 28, 2008
Darn Liberals. Who will be State Comptroller? Do not count your chickens before they hatch.
Jimmy Smiths Lapdog

Upperco, MD

#12 May 28, 2008
Johnny Apple Seed wrote:
Darn Liberals. Who will be State Comptroller? Do not count your chickens before they hatch.
Hopefully, it will not be Jimmy. He was a bad lawyer, a bad judge, and a bad County Executive.

Since: Aug 07

Hampstead, MD

#13 May 28, 2008
All school construction is useless, as teachers don't teach and parents don't parent anymore.

This means that the kids are a completely lost cause and therefore - through no fault of their own - will grow up to be losers, so why waste the money?
Joe

Gwynn Oak, MD

#14 May 28, 2008
Johnny Apple Seed wrote:
Fix the damn and put homeland security near the water. Do they want their water updated or live in fear of terrorist attacks? No common Sense!
The dam was fixed. The whiners had to put up with a bit of traffic inconvenience for a couple of years. If these people want to live in idyllic pastures, move farther out.
Joe

Gwynn Oak, MD

#15 May 28, 2008
Jimmy Smiths Lapdog wrote:
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Hopefully, it will not be Jimmy. He was a bad lawyer, a bad judge, and a bad County Executive.
I don't disagree that Smith is everything you say.
Joe

Gwynn Oak, MD

#16 May 28, 2008
Jimmy Smiths Lapdog wrote:
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You are totally correct, it is about convenience, and quality of life. "Rich people" as you call them, worked hard to get what they have, and they have every right to protect the quality of life that they have EARNED. This is how a capitalist society works...work hard to have a better place to live, and a better quality of life. With regard to due process of law, it is every citizen's right. Jimmy Smith is intent on making northern Baltimore County look just like his beautiful native Randallstown, because northern Baltimore County did not support him. Thankfully, Jimmy cannot run for another term as County Executive, so we will be rid of him in short order.
That area is a "Keeping Up with the Joneses" area. I've been in many of the homes there. They can't afford furniture because they have an enormous mortgage and they need the right kind of car in thr driveway. They all think they are privledged and entitled.
Johnny Apple Seed

Manassas, VA

#17 May 28, 2008
Speak for your self, and register your kids in public school like you are supposed to or the bank will repo your kids, period. I see many violations in my long day. You should really do more research into who owns what.
Johnny Apple Seed

Manassas, VA

#18 May 28, 2008
When is the last day of school?
Jimmy Smiths Lapdog

Upperco, MD

#19 May 28, 2008
Joe wrote:
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That area is a "Keeping Up with the Joneses" area. I've been in many of the homes there. They can't afford furniture because they have an enormous mortgage and they need the right kind of car in thr driveway. They all think they are privledged and entitled.
Many of the people you speak of own their homes outright, as they have lived there for 30+ years. As for feeling that they are entitled, they are..entitled to due process, just like everyone else in the Peoples Republic of Baltimore County. Making generalized comments about any group of people is usually not a good idea. If you are so jealous of "rich people", why not get an education, a better job, and maybe you can become "rich" yourself.
Joe

Gwynn Oak, MD

#20 May 28, 2008
Jimmy Smiths Lapdog wrote:
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Many of the people you speak of own their homes outright, as they have lived there for 30+ years. As for feeling that they are entitled, they are..entitled to due process, just like everyone else in the Peoples Republic of Baltimore County. Making generalized comments about any group of people is usually not a good idea. If you are so jealous of "rich people", why not get an education, a better job, and maybe you can become "rich" yourself.
I have and I chose not to buy a home in the area because of the people who live there.

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