Waiting for the crowds

Waiting for the crowds

There are 50 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from Apr 4, 2009, titled Waiting for the crowds. In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

Three stories beneath the street's surface, an empty cavern awaits a useful life.

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chatterbox87501

Los Alamos, NM

#44 Apr 6, 2009
PC Chavez wrote:
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I don't think you get what I am suggesting.(1) downtown parking can be difficult to find and may take cruising around a few times.(2) Use a place to park ALL cars and shuttle people in. Tourists and locals. Takes cars off the streets in the areas of the Plaza and Guadalupe.
I don't agree that parking is that hard to find, unless you want metered parking right next to the business you want to visit.

There are lots of parking lots and a few parking structures around, I think you can park all day for $9.00.

My favorite place to park downtown on weekends is the lot of the old St. Vincent hospital. Sometimes they charge $5.00 to park, most times no one is collecting.

You park right behind the Cathedral Basilica and the plaza is two blocks away. I park there when I go to church, and on Christmas Eve, you avoid the rouge cops and people walking to Canyon Road.

I live close enough to a bus stop that I can leave the car at home if I choose to bus downtown.

How safe would a park and ride lot be for your car? For you coming back from a day's work/shopping, to an dark, unmonitored lot?

PC Chavez

“Hee-hee-hee, snort!”

Since: Sep 08

Laguna Beach/Santa Fe

#45 Apr 6, 2009
chatterbox87501 wrote:
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I don't agree that parking is that hard to find, unless you want metered parking right next to the business you want to visit.
There are lots of parking lots and a few parking structures around, I think you can park all day for $9.00.
My favorite place to park downtown on weekends is the lot of the old St. Vincent hospital. Sometimes they charge $5.00 to park, most times no one is collecting.
You park right behind the Cathedral Basilica and the plaza is two blocks away. I park there when I go to church, and on Christmas Eve, you avoid the rouge cops and people walking to Canyon Road.
I live close enough to a bus stop that I can leave the car at home if I choose to bus downtown.
How safe would a park and ride lot be for your car? For you coming back from a day's work/shopping, to an dark, unmonitored lot?
Chatter, you bring up questions that have been answered by all the little cities and towns that already do this. Look up one if you want to know how good a park-n-ride can work, how beneficial it is, and how it is a win-win for all. I can't answer your questions. Don't know if I want to as I think your mind is already made up. I just know that it is done successfully elsewhere and it can be done successfully in Santa Fe, especially a place like Santa Fe.
chatterbox87501

Los Alamos, NM

#46 Apr 6, 2009
PC Chavez wrote:
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Chatter, you bring up questions that have been answered by all the little cities and towns that already do this. Look up one if you want to know how good a park-n-ride can work, how beneficial it is, and how it is a win-win for all. I can't answer your questions. Don't know if I want to as I think your mind is already made up. I just know that it is done successfully elsewhere and it can be done successfully in Santa Fe, especially a place like Santa Fe.
I think a shuttle from De Vargas Mall to downtown would be nice, but you need to see the parking lot now. I know the mall doesn't get any traffic, but the parking lot is always pretty full, I can't explain that.

There is a new grocery store going into the space occupied by the Albertsons, there goes more park and ride parking.

And as I mentioned earlier, there is parking downtown, the problem is getting a metered space.

Of course, since we, as taxpayers, bought the railyard, I don't see why the city has to reward us by making us pay for parking on our property.

chatterbox87501

Los Alamos, NM

#47 Apr 6, 2009
And BTW, Sis, why does the city have to squeeze every dime they can out of us?

Just make the railyard parking free, that would give us locals some incentive to go there, to shop there, to eat there, to spend money there.

If they were to do that, I might not comment about the city or state helping some friend build a 3-D IMAX theatre at the railyard.

If they did that the park and ride idea will be moot.

PC Chavez

“Hee-hee-hee, snort!”

Since: Sep 08

Laguna Beach/Santa Fe

#48 Apr 6, 2009
Just make the parking at the railway fee. Yeah, right, like that is going to happen.

Parking at the Railyard and the Plaza is NOT free and I think it is so wrong that workers have to pay.

I do not know what you mean by why does the City have to squeeze very dime out of us. Ask them, not me. I don't know why the City does anything it does except for the fact that they are our elected officials and the last city election only had a 3 perdent turn out to vote. Shame on Santa Feans.

PC Chavez

“Hee-hee-hee, snort!”

Since: Sep 08

Laguna Beach/Santa Fe

#49 Apr 6, 2009
Oh, and I was using DeVargas parking lot as an example. In other words set up a park-n-ride at a place on the outskirt for a quick shuttle in.

My suggestion is something that is based off of very successful park-n-rides already in service for years in other locations. Only a suggestion. I don't have the details, nor the city budget worked out, so your barage of questions of every little detail are not something I am qualified to answer. I hope you understand. Just a suggestion. Not expecting the pop quiz.
chatterbox87501

Los Alamos, NM

#50 Apr 6, 2009
PC Chavez wrote:
Just make the parking at the railway fee. Yeah, right, like that is going to happen.
Parking at the Railyard and the Plaza is NOT free and I think it is so wrong that workers have to pay.
I do not know what you mean by why does the City have to squeeze very dime out of us. Ask them, not me. I don't know why the City does anything it does except for the fact that they are our elected officials and the last city election only had a 3 perdent turn out to vote. Shame on Santa Feans.
I voted, for Cove.
Well there are 900 spaces at the railyard, as I understand.
The issue at hand is that people don't like the idea of paying to park before shopping. That's because we are used to mall parking.
Just yesterday I left town early to take my brother in law to the airport. We stopped at REI in Albuquerque because he didn't want to pay for railyard parking.
A park and ride shuttle isn't going to be free either, either the rider will pay, or the merchants will pay.
There's that pay to park before shopping issue again.
chatterbox87501

Los Alamos, NM

#51 Apr 6, 2009
PC Chavez wrote:
Oh, and I was using DeVargas parking lot as an example. In other words set up a park-n-ride at a place on the outskirt for a quick shuttle in.
My suggestion is something that is based off of very successful park-n-rides already in service for years in other locations. Only a suggestion. I don't have the details, nor the city budget worked out, so your barage of questions of every little detail are not something I am qualified to answer. I hope you understand. Just a suggestion. Not expecting the pop quiz.
Like I said before, if I have to drive to a park and ride lot, and pay to be shuttled,( that service will never be free) I may we well just drive to the railyard, to a city lot, parking structure.

Just avoid the Fuss, take the Bus.

“Orwell said this would happen.”

Since: Sep 08

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#52 Apr 6, 2009
PC Chavez wrote:
Oh, and I was using DeVargas parking lot as an example. In other words set up a park-n-ride at a place on the outskirt for a quick shuttle in.
My suggestion is something that is based off of very successful park-n-rides already in service for years in other locations. Only a suggestion. I don't have the details, nor the city budget worked out, so your barage of questions of every little detail are not something I am qualified to answer. I hope you understand. Just a suggestion. Not expecting the pop quiz.
The Parking Division offers something called the City Hall and Downtown (CHAD) Shuttle, but I can't find any details: http://www.santafenm.gov/index.asp... . I think it serves the big parking lot by Ft. Marcy and downtown locations.

There is also the City's Santa Fe Pick-Up, which is a shuttle that circulates from the Railrunner's stops to various pleaces around downtown: http://www.nmshtd.state.nm.us/upload/images/P...
ken

Albuquerque, NM

#54 Apr 8, 2009
Julie Ann Grimm reports that merchant validation is possible but not being subscribed to by the merchants. Obviously this is only for the 400 spaces in the garage which has an attendant and not for the centralized meters. There is no way to validate on the meters, which is presumably why Sanbusco had theirs removed.
Ms. Grimm do you have any info on the question of whether the merchants are paying for parking for their employees?

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