Trail dust: 19th century merchant enraptured by N.M

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Trail dust: 19th century merchant enraptured by N.M. More on this site Man referred to as SeA or Sambrano quickly adopted state as own Marc Simmons For The New Mexican 5/15/2009 - 5/7/09 CerA n St.

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May 16, 2009
 
Interesting piece, thank you.
Narvie

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May 16, 2009
 
as history showes there were pleanty of land grant that were also taken over when new mexico became a territory. i think that was the reason for the uprisings, all the way up to the tierrra amarria court house take over........
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May 16, 2009
 
Narvie wrote:
as history showes there were pleanty of land grant that were also taken over when new mexico became a territory. i think that was the reason for the uprisings, all the way up to the tierrra amarria court house take over........
St. Vrain was a Spanish-speaking Mexican citizen living with his wife in what was then part of Mexico, and he acquired an interest in this grant when what is now the State of New Mexico was still part of Mexico.

I don't see anything illegal about this, and I don't see any relationship to later acquisitions that happened after New Mexico became a territory of the United States. However illegal and unjust these later acquisitions by others may have been, they provide no basis to criticize St. Vrain.
Carlos Gallegos

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May 16, 2009
 
Ceran St. Vrain's article by Dr. Marc Simmons is very meaning to my family. Ceran St. Vrain is my great grandfather and his wife, Laura Branch St.Vrain is my great grandmother, parents to my grandmother,Felictas.
Sincerely,
Carlos Gallegos
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May 16, 2009
 
Mr. Simmons: You fail to mention that this gentleman murdered in cold blood many local citizens during the Taos revolt. You also fail to mention that this man was part of the first land theft ring in NM, the "American Party" and was an acommplice of governor Armijo and Vigil wherein they conspired to steal land grants under the guise of becoming mexican citizens. You know the rest of the land grant story.
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May 17, 2009
 
Frank wrote:
Mr. Simmons: You fail to mention that this gentleman murdered in cold blood many local citizens during the Taos revolt.
And how many of those local citizens had themselves murdered unarmed civilians, scalping two alive before murdering them, and murdering a teenager by piercing him with lances? Don't make them sound so innocent.

Maybe they did not get all the trappings of a fair trial, but their victims got no trials at all. And those local citizens all died quickly by hanging unlike some of their victims who dies slowly from multiple wounds.

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