Support for gun control wanes in America

Support for gun control wanes in America

There are 132 comments on the ABS-CBN News story from Nov 2, 2013, titled Support for gun control wanes in America. In it, ABS-CBN News reports that:

GLENDALE, Arizona Almost a year after a shooter barged into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut and killed 20 students and six school staff, support for tighter gun control laws in the country has waned.

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#109 Nov 10, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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Keep spewing your outright lies, and perhaps you'll find out.
Not nobody is surprised that you will try to welch out of this- we all know you have a big sticky mouth and no spine.

Is Hamilton alive or dead?

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#110 Nov 10, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Not nobody is surprised that you will try to welch out of this- we all know you have a big sticky mouth and no spine.
Is Hamilton alive or dead?
Your fallacious attempts at deflection aren't working, troll. Nor will they ever work. It's a matter of public record. And nothing will change that fact. You're caught in yet another of your repeated lies. All you are doing now, is looking even more foolish than previously.

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#111 Nov 10, 2013
Listen, sourgum, it's up for you to prove slander, not for me to disprove. But since you were not happy with the obvious- that slander is SPOKEN, not written... I have been patiently waiting for you to tell us which state allows for compensation on "slander " on someone who is dead. Since we've already proved that Alexander Hamilton is dead.

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#112 Nov 10, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
It's a matter of public record.
That Alexander Hamilton is indeed dead? If he is dead... you have a problem proving slander. Putting aside I already proved you wrong already. I will give you three hours to expand on your theory on how one can slander someone who has been dead for two hundred years.

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#113 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
Listen, sourgum, it's up for you to prove slander, not for me to disprove. But since you were not happy with the obvious- that slander is SPOKEN, not written... I have been patiently waiting for you to tell us which state allows for compensation on "slander " on someone who is dead. Since we've already proved that Alexander Hamilton is dead.
"Why he asked in a time of profound peace should we keep up an oppression--a practice known to operate as an oppression? After fifty years experience, not one solitary instance of good could be shown to have been produced by it. He had nothing to say against making it obligatory for men to be organized and enrolled--to be armed for their own defence. It was perfectly right that all free citizens should be armed for that purpose. Who doubted it?"

- Benjamin Martin, Oct. 25, 1837, delegate from Philadelphia county.[THE CONVENTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION COMMENCED AT HARRISBURG MAY 2 1837, VOL IV.]

Your perverse side-tracking ploy ends NOW.

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#114 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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"Why
Why are you still posting, WELCHER?

Is Alexander Hamilton dead?
PrinceofDarkness

Dallas, TX

#115 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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"Why he asked in a time of profound peace should we keep up an oppression--a practice known to operate as an oppression? After fifty years experience, not one solitary instance of good could be shown to have been produced by it. He had nothing to say against making it obligatory for men to be organized and enrolled--to be armed for their own defence. It was perfectly right that all free citizens should be armed for that purpose. Who doubted it?"
- Benjamin Martin, Oct. 25, 1837, delegate from Philadelphia county.[THE CONVENTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION COMMENCED AT HARRISBURG MAY 2 1837, VOL IV.]
Your perverse side-tracking ploy ends NOW.
‘In America, You Have a Right to Be Stupid,’ Kerry Says in Defense of Free Speech

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#116 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Why are you still posting, WELCHER?
Is Alexander Hamilton dead?
"...I have, therefore, authorized the colonel in command there, as soon as he shall deem it expedient, to declare that hostilities against the Indians have ceased, and that they will not be renewed unless provoked and rendered indispensable by new outrages on their part; but that neither citizens nor troops are to be restrained from any necessary and proper acts of self-defence against any attempts to molest them. He is instructed to open communications with those yet remaining, and endeavor by all peaceable means to persuade them to consult their true interests by joining their brethren at the west. And directions have been given for establishing a cordon or line of protection for the inhabitants by the necessary number of troops.”

"But, to render this system of protection effectual, it is essential that settlements of our citizens should be made within the line so established, and that they should be armed, so as to be ready to repel any attack. In order to afford inducements to such settlements, I submit to the consideration of Congress the propriety of allowing a reasonable quantity of land to the head of each family that shall permanently occupy it, and of extending the existing provisions on that subject, so as to permit the issue of rations for the subsistence of the settlers for one year. And as few of them will probably be provided with arms, it would be expedient to authorize the loan of muskets, and the delivery of a proper quantity of cartridges, or of powder and ball. By such means it is to be hoped that a hardy population will soon occupy the rich soil of the frontiers of Florida, who will be as capable as willing to defend themselves and their houses, and thus relieve the Government from further anxiety or expense for their protection."-- President John Tyler, Washington, May 10, 1842.

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#117 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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"...I have,
What does the Q stand for Davy?

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#118 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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What does the Q stand for Davy?
Quintessential

quin·tes·sen·tial
&#716;kwint&#601;& #712;senCH&#601;l/
adjective
adjective: quintessential

1.
representing the most perfect or typical example of a quality or class.
"he was the quintessential tough guy—strong, silent, and self-contained"
synonyms: typical, prototypical, stereotypical, archetypal, classic, model, standard, stock, representative, conventional

Much the same as; "The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed."

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#119 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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Quintessential
Not one person in this forum thought you would keep your word, Davy.

Wipe your chin, dear.

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#120 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Not one person in this forum thought you would keep your word, Davy.
Wipe your chin, dear.
Gun Ownership Rises to All-Time High, Violent Crime Falls to 35-Year Low

"Coinciding with a surge in gun purchases that began shortly before the 2008 elections, violent crime decreased six percent between 2008 and 2009, including an eight percent decrease in murder and a nine percent decrease in robbery.1 Since 1991, when violent crime peaked, it has decreased 43 percent to a 35-year low. Murder has fallen 49 percent to a 45-year low.2 At the same time, the number of guns that Americans own has risen by about 90 million. Predictions by gun control supporters, that increasing the number of guns, particularly handguns and so-called “assault weapons,” would cause crime to increase, have been proven profoundly lacking in clairvoyance.4"
http://archive.lewrockwell.com/rep/gun-owners...

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#121 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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Gun Ownership Rises to All-Time High
What a shame it is that the percentage of homes with firearms has dropped to a all-time low, GayDavy.

It doesn't matter the same idiots are buying more guns- they can only shoot one wife at a time.

" The share of American households with guns has declined over the past four decades, a national survey shows, with some of the most surprising drops in the South and the Western mountain states, where guns are deeply embedded in the culture.

The gun ownership rate has fallen across a broad cross section of households since the early 1970s, according to data from the General Social Survey, a public opinion survey conducted every two years that asks a sample of American adults if they have guns at home, among other questions.

The rate has dropped in cities large and small, in suburbs and rural areas and in all regions of the country. It has fallen among households with children, and among those without. It has declined for households that say they are very happy, and for those that say they are not. It is down among churchgoers and those who never sit in pews.

The household gun ownership rate has fallen from an average of 50 percent in the 1970s to 49 percent in the 1980s, 43 percent in the 1990s and 35 percent in the 2000s, according to the survey data, analyzed by The New York Times.

In 2012, the share of American households with guns was 34 percent, according to survey results released on Thursday. Researchers said the difference compared with 2010, when the rate was 32 percent, was not statistically significant. "

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#122 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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What a shame it is that the percentage of homes with firearms has dropped to a all-time low, GayDavy.
It doesn't matter the same idiots are buying more guns- they can only shoot one wife at a time.
" The share of American households with guns has declined over the past four decades, a national survey shows, with some of the most surprising drops in the South and the Western mountain states, where guns are deeply embedded in the culture.
The gun ownership rate has fallen across a broad cross section of households since the early 1970s, according to data from the General Social Survey, a public opinion survey conducted every two years that asks a sample of American adults if they have guns at home, among other questions.
The rate has dropped in cities large and small, in suburbs and rural areas and in all regions of the country. It has fallen among households with children, and among those without. It has declined for households that say they are very happy, and for those that say they are not. It is down among churchgoers and those who never sit in pews.
The household gun ownership rate has fallen from an average of 50 percent in the 1970s to 49 percent in the 1980s, 43 percent in the 1990s and 35 percent in the 2000s, according to the survey data, analyzed by The New York Times.
In 2012, the share of American households with guns was 34 percent, according to survey results released on Thursday. Researchers said the difference compared with 2010, when the rate was 32 percent, was not statistically significant. "
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Numbers Don’t Lie: A Fair and Balanced Look at Gun Ownership and Violent Crime in the U.S.

"....Do more guns mean more violent crime?

"When you get down to brass tacks, there is one simple question at the heart of the gun control debate: Does more guns mean more gun crime? Here’s what the statistics say:

"While there is no national database monitoring gun ownership in the United States, statistics from the FBI’s Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) show that the number of background checks for legal guns is at a 14-year high. The NICS has been tracking the number of background checks on legal guns since late 1998.

"So, what exactly does this mean?

"While there’s not necessarily a 1:1 correlation between a gun background check and gun sale, a strong relationship exists between a gun background check and a gun sale, FBI spokesman Steven Fischer told Reuters.

"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives keeps track of data for guns under the National Firearms Act – which regulates and taxes many of the deadliest weapons. That data shows a record-high 1.1 million regulated firearms were processed in 2012.

"Moreover, a 2011 Gallup survey shows that gun ownership in America is increasing. According to the results, 47 percent of Americans report that they have a gun in their home or elsewhere on their property.” This marks the highest percentage of gun ownership recorded by Gallup since 1993.

"In 1992, the homicide rate was 9.3 per 100,000 people. By 2000, the murder rate had declined to 5.6 per 100,000 people, and, by 2011, shrunken to 4.7 per 100,000 people...."
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/the-numbers...

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#124 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
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Numbers Don’t Lie: A Fair and Balanced Look at Gun Ownership and Violent Crime in the U.S.
"....Do more guns mean more violent crime?
Yes.

1 Alaska: 20
2 Louisiana: 19.5
3 Wyoming: 18.8
4 Arizona: 18
5 Nevada: 17.3
5 Mississippi: 17.3
7 New Mexico: 16.6
8 Arkansas: 16.3
9 Alabama: 16.2
10 Tennessee: 15.4

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#125 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
Numbers Don’t Lie:
But you lie, GayDavy.

Not a single soul is surprised you WELCHED on the bet.

Wipe your chin, DavyQ.

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#126 Nov 11, 2013
2ndAmRight wrote:
"Moreover, a 2011 Gallup survey shows that gun ownership in America is increasing.
RLANDO, Fla.–There are approximately 7,500 child hospitalizations and 500 in-hospital deaths each year due to injuries sustained from guns. In an abstract presented Oct. 27 at the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) National Conference and Exhibition in Orlando, researchers also identified a link between the percentage of homes with guns and the prevalence of child gunshot injuries.

In “United States Gunshot Violence—Disturbing Trends,” researchers reviewed statistics from the Kids’ Inpatient Database (KID) from 1997, 2000, 2003, 2006 and 2009 (for a total of 36 million pediatric hospital admissions), and estimated state household gun ownership using the most recent Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System data (2004).

The study found that approximately 7,500 children are admitted to the hospital for the treatment of injuries sustained from guns each year, and more than 500 children die during hospital admission from these injuries. Between 1997 and 2009, hospitalizations from gunshot wounds increased from 4,270 to 7,730, and in-hospital deaths from 317 to 503.

The study also found a significant association between the percentage of gunshot wounds occurring in the home and the percentage of households containing any firearms, loaded firearms and unlocked loaded firearms.

“Handguns account for the majority of childhood gunshot wounds and this number appears to be increasing over the last decade,” said lead study author Arin L. Madenci, MD, MPH.“Furthermore, states with higher percentages of household firearm ownership also tended to have higher proportions of childhood gunshot wounds, especially those occurring in the home.”

Many current gun control efforts focus on limiting the availability of military-style semi-automatic assault rifles.

“Policies designed to reduce the number of household firearms, especially handguns, may more effectively reduce the number of gunshot injuries in children,” said Dr. Madenci.

- See more at: http://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-pr...

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#127 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Yes.
1 Alaska: 20
2 Louisiana: 19.5
3 Wyoming: 18.8
4 Arizona: 18
5 Nevada: 17.3
5 Mississippi: 17.3
7 New Mexico: 16.6
8 Arkansas: 16.3
9 Alabama: 16.2
10 Tennessee: 15.4
Burlington:

Friday Morning, June 20, 1856

The New York Commercial on Kansas affairs.

"...The Constitution of the United States secures to the people the right to bear arms; and it does this to enable them to protect themselves from violence at home as well as abroad. Self-defence is the first law of nature; and the government or the system, we care not what it is, which takes it away, is the most absolute of all possible despotisms."

- The Burlington Free Press, Burlington, VT., Friday, June 20, 1856. Vol. XXIX--New Series. Vol. II. Pg. 1.

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#128 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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But you lie, GayDavy.
Not a single soul is surprised you WELCHED on the bet.
Wipe your chin, DavyQ.
"The only demand made by Sheriff Jones which the people did not instantly accede to was that for the surrender of their private arms, the right to bear which the Federal Constitution expressly guarantee to every citizen. At length, finding that no pretext for destruction could be trumped up, the leaders of the Ruffians commenced cannonading the Free-State Hotel and The Herald of Freedom office, and the people remaining in the town began to make their escape as fast as they could..."

- New-York Daily Tribune, New-York, Tuesday, May 27, 1856. Vol. XVI.....No. 4,713. Pg. 4.

“shall NOT be infringed”

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#129 Nov 11, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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RLANDO, Fla.–There are approximately 7,500 child hospitalizations and 500 in-hospital deaths each year due to injuries sustained from guns. In an abstract presented Oct. 27 at the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) National Conference and Exhibition in Orlando, researchers also identified a link between the percentage of homes with guns and the prevalence of child gunshot injuries.
In “United States Gunshot Violence—Disturbing Trends,” researchers reviewed statistics from the Kids’ Inpatient Database (KID) from 1997, 2000, 2003, 2006 and 2009 (for a total of 36 million pediatric hospital admissions), and estimated state household gun ownership using the most recent Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System data (2004).
The study found that approximately 7,500 children are admitted to the hospital for the treatment of injuries sustained from guns each year, and more than 500 children die during hospital admission from these injuries. Between 1997 and 2009, hospitalizations from gunshot wounds increased from 4,270 to 7,730, and in-hospital deaths from 317 to 503.
The study also found a significant association between the percentage of gunshot wounds occurring in the home and the percentage of households containing any firearms, loaded firearms and unlocked loaded firearms.
“Handguns account for the majority of childhood gunshot wounds and this number appears to be increasing over the last decade,” said lead study author Arin L. Madenci, MD, MPH.“Furthermore, states with higher percentages of household firearm ownership also tended to have higher proportions of childhood gunshot wounds, especially those occurring in the home.”
Many current gun control efforts focus on limiting the availability of military-style semi-automatic assault rifles.
“Policies designed to reduce the number of household firearms, especially handguns, may more effectively reduce the number of gunshot injuries in children,” said Dr. Madenci.
- See more at: http://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-pr...
"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the WHOLE BODY of PEOPLE always POSSESS ARMS, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them."--Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters From The Federal Farmer, 53 (1788).[Walter Bennett, ed., Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republican, at 21,22,124 [Univ. of Alabama Press,1975]

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