jodi arias' defense ptsd my keester

Since: Mar 13

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#61 Mar 31, 2013
Thought provoking article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tanya-young-wil...

Excerpt: My goal was to attract 1000 respondents to establish a credible level of confidence in the accuracy of the results. However, after one day of people sharing the links via social media and the Huffpost article, the numbers began to swell at a rate of 100 respondents per hour. The survey was available online for 3 ½ days and over 3500 people responded. The data is not scientific per se, but the results are nonetheless compelling and interesting.

At least 89% of survey respondents actually watch the trial, and 86% of respondents are very familiar with the facts of the case. The answers suggest that 95% of respondents believe that the killing was premeditated, yet, interestingly, 21% of respondents think that the killing was a "crime of passion". The 21% percent is telling because a "crime of passion" defense could have led to a voluntary manslaughter conviction which carries far less time than first degree or second degree murder.

The survey proved to be cathartic for some. It had 60 questions that often forced a "yes" or "no" answer. In reading the answers to the two open-ended questions, I learned many interesting theories about Jodi and Travis' relationship and the killing - some quite plausible. There were suggestions that Jodi had an accomplice. Many respondents believe that Alexander thought Arias had left his home and therefore, was unaware she was taking pictures of him in the shower. Those who believe in Arias' innocence believe that she was a battered women and the killing happened just as she testified.
Many who believe that Arias is a murderer nevertheless believe that Alexander was using Arias but not abusing her. 71% of respondents believe that Alexander was using Arias for sex and 49% believe that Arias was his "dirty little secret" as the defense attorney stated in her opening argument. Still, only 6% of respondents believe that Arias was the victim of domestic violence with Alexander as the perpetrator.

One of the most interesting statistics to me relates to domestic violence. As a survivor of domestic violence and a celebrity advocate against domestic violence, I often share the well published statistic that 25% of women have or will experience domestic violence in her lifetime. However, this survey supports the contention that the reported number is very low due to that fact that many victims fail to report the abuse to authorities or organizations that report their numbers for statistical purposes. This survey suggests that 43% of respondents have been a victim of domestic violence and 77% knows someone who has been a victim of domestic violence.
Cock A Doodle

Spring, TX

#62 Mar 31, 2013
hybridlment wrote:
She did get it when he told her she was a sociopath, a liar, and the worst thing that ever happened to him, and she realized it was over. That's a large part of what set this into motion. Jodi equated his wanting sex to his wanting to be with her eternally, and went to great lengths to be available for sex. I honestly believe she thought that was enough to keep him. But he wasn't going to marry her, she was at the age that some women become worried about still being single, and she knew it had crumbled at this point - he was leaving her. Jodi's plan had failed, and Jodi doesn't like to be defeated, so she developed another plan. She made a last ditch effort to drive all that way without any notice and try the sex thing one more time, and it didn't work past the sex and now be gone, I've got plans that don't include you.
Should he have had sex with her? No. Does every man who has taken advantage of a desperate female trying to hold onto them with sex deserve to die? No.
You should go back and review the testimony from a former boyfriend, Darryl Brewer. He was 52, divorced, had a teenage son and dated/lived with Arias for years. He wasn't going to marry her either.
He paid for breast implants for Jodi. In 2007, the house went into foreclosure. Somewhere I read that she moved to Arizona and that Travis let her stay with him. I'll have to find that again. It seems like she was a stray cat, moving from place to place...looking for what a man could do for her $$$. She even said in the 48 Hours interview that she used Travis as much as he used her.
hybridlment

Lexington, KY

#63 Apr 1, 2013
Cock A Doodle wrote:
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You should go back and review the testimony from a former boyfriend, Darryl Brewer. He was 52, divorced, had a teenage son and dated/lived with Arias for years. He wasn't going to marry her either.
He paid for breast implants for Jodi. In 2007, the house went into foreclosure. Somewhere I read that she moved to Arizona and that Travis let her stay with him. I'll have to find that again. It seems like she was a stray cat, moving from place to place...looking for what a man could do for her $$$. She even said in the 48 Hours interview that she used Travis as much as he used her.
She is indeed a disturbed individual. I've been listening to the interrogation tapes (thanks, Rose!) and counting how many times she requested, then pleaded to see the pictures of Travis after his death. Then broke down in court when she saw one. I'm curious what her desire to see his dead body was.

Since: Mar 13

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#64 Apr 1, 2013
Hybrid, I too wondered why it was she kept asking to see the photos. A fascination for the macabre or needing to see them so she can tailor her story to fit the scene?
hybridlment

Louisville, KY

#65 Apr 2, 2013
RamblingRose253 wrote:
Hybrid, I too wondered why it was she kept asking to see the photos. A fascination for the macabre or needing to see them so she can tailor her story to fit the scene?
It has to be the latter. Fascination for the macabre I could understand, if it wasn't a person you'd slept with. In that case, there's no way anyone would want to view their shot, stabbed and 5-day dead body - especially if they inflicted it.

The more I learn about Jodi, the more I believe she needs to be kept out of society for our protection as much as for punishment for what she's already done. She's truly frightening. Even more scary is that there are others like her out there.

Since: Mar 13

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#66 Apr 2, 2013
Good morning hybrid. I kind of had a feeling it was the latter but thought I might be too harsh since I already find her guilty (I do not care with what she ends up getting charged.).

I have been watching Arias' testimonies from when she first took the stand (Day 13). She definitely is some piece of work, and I do not mean that in a flattering way. She was assertive enough to tell Alexander to stop (with the anal sex) because it was too painful for her. He stopped. It leads me to believe that she can be assertive when she wants to be but otherwise plays it coy, being the cute and accommodating 'girl' hoping she will get what she wants.

I got this link from Alexander's Facebook page. Very intriguing reading! It helped me get a better understanding of all the disorders a lot of people (media and bloggers alike) are saying Arias has. There are three parts to the article and the third one was the best, to me. Here is the link: http://kristinarandle.com/blog/diagnosing-jod...

However, this excerpt is from the second part of the article.(You can get the links to all the articles from the link I gave above.) "In essence, Jodi Arias killed Travis Alexander three times. Any one time would have been sufficient to render Travis Alexander a harmless threat to Ms. Arias."

I do believe the murder was premeditated, although I do have an issue with the prosecution claiming the stabbing came first. I know the ME said no hemorrhaging in the brain (and I am no ME) but I seriously question the status of the brain's decomposition in order to tell if it had hemorrhaged or not. I may be wrong but I will go with my belief the gun shot came first.

Woo! Time for court to resume (at some point). I wonder how many more delays and side bars there will be? Maybe juror 5 will be kicked off the panel, instead of a mistrial happening?
LA Guy

United States

#67 Apr 2, 2013
NEWW FLASH

Wake up, everyone in chambers, includinbg TA's sibling and of course JA

Take a guess, HLN is still spinning that all is ok....lol
hybridlment

Lexington, KY

#68 Apr 2, 2013
Thanks, Rose, that was interesting. It also leaves me wondering how anyone with any common sense could believe the nonsense we're hearing now.

I'm sure you know by now that the trial delay was due to a juror being dismissed and it's back on track as (relatively) usual.

With all her hyperliteracy, do you find it odd that Jodi consistently misuses "I" and "me"; i.e., "It was a goal of Travis and I to go there".

Since: Mar 13

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#69 Apr 2, 2013
You are welcome, hybrid. I hope "common sense" really does exist in the jury with this trial.

Yes, the delay was on the count of juror 5 being excused. I am glad it was that rather than a mistrial. I must hand it to the defense though. They are doing all they can to save their client, which is what the defense is supposed to do. With emotions removed, the defense is doing pretty good given they have little to work with.

Arias is smart but not nearly as smart as she thinks she is. I had read her blog (cannot remember the name of it) and she wrote pretty well, in my opinion. But taking in all that she has said and done in this trial, I think she is immature, has low self esteem and self worth but self serving at the same time (cunning and manipulative). I can understand why she does not fit just one specific profile. I do not agree with all she has done, but Arias is a survivor. We shall see how long that lasts.

Since: Mar 13

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#70 Apr 2, 2013
The "less power" LaViolette speaks of, I see more as Arias having an expectation that Alexander did not meet. My belief is when one expects something, they set themselves up for a fall. I do not see how that is Alexander's fault.

Geez, with all the delays and side bars, a full day of court only amounts to roughly 3 hours or so of testimony. I know justice can be slow and this case is a prime example of it!
hybridlment

Louisville, KY

#71 Apr 2, 2013
I agree about the defense. I've seen so many different litigation styles and honestly know it's never anything personal with the attorneys - I don't ever feel the need to mock or call them names. In the prosecutor's case, I do feel he is determined to obtain justice for a gruesome murder and it shows. It would bother him personally to see her walk. The defense I believe is doing a job and the best they can, but without the conviction to save her except for the boost to their careers it would be to succeed. I don't think it would bother them personally to see her put away.(And I love Ms. Wilmott's red jacket).

Books will be written for years by many concerning this trial. I can't imagine that Jodi won't write her memoirs.
hybridlment

Louisville, KY

#72 Apr 2, 2013
I'm having a hard time with this expert's testimony now. The confidence that she answers with is as if she's been in many counseling sessions with and knew both parties very well. In reality, she has nothing but what Jodi says and never met Travis. The story she's relating so positively is based solely on Jodi's story; it's just a repeat of what Jodi testified to, in another person's voice. She can't really offer anything more as she's seen or heard nothing more.

Since: Mar 13

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#73 Apr 2, 2013
Agree on Wilmott's jacket. I love that hue of red!

I have no doubt Arias will be writing a book (probably provide her own sketches, drawings or photos too!). It is my understanding a convict can not earn money but her family sure can.

As for LaViolette, she is a defense witness after all. The poster Cock A Doodle even mentioned LaViolette must have suffered abuse at some time because of her "size." (I know of women of similar size if not more, but due to other things than abuse.) But perhaps LaViolette has been to counseling sessions herself, giving her the goal of becoming a violence expert. I am willing to bet she would not be saying all she is/has had she spoken with Alexander, to give full context to it all.

Cannot wait for Martinez to cross examine her!

p.s. Arias was not forced to stay with Alexander. Due to her own short comings, she chose to stay and hope for something that was not to be.
hybridlment

Louisville, KY

#74 Apr 2, 2013
I'm trying to be open minded, but sometimes looking back over this and listening to all the psycho babble is irritating to me as a female who has lived a lot of years and seen a lot.

The bottom line is that she wanted to move up in the world, set her sights on Travis because he was full of crap about what he possessed, he was a nice looking young man who wanted to play but wanted a good Mormon wife in the end, Jodi used sex to try to change his mind, he didn't change it, he left her and she was pissed.

This has been played out a million times between men and women without a brutal murder. If she'd taken her dumb butt on down the road, she'd have possibly found what she wanted with the right partner and wondered what she ever saw in him later.

Hasn't every woman experienced this in some way, learned from it and made better choices next time??

Since: Mar 13

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#75 Apr 2, 2013
Arias was 27 or 28 when she got involved with Alexander, so she has not had the benefit of life experience that you and I have had. Some women (men too) do not learn from bad choices or mistakes.

I think Arias wanted to take the easy road, by latching on to a man who was established, had good income and a home she could be in that would then give her the good life. If Alexander was borrowing money from her and others, I do not know why she remained so fixated on him. She had doubts about him but remained obsessed with him. Sex is what they most had in common but even that was not enough to keep them together.

Regardless of his faults, she chose to stay apparently because of abuse she has suffered. I see it more as her wanting the good life he could have IF he wanted to and he did not. She could not change his mind and she killed him instead. She needs to be punished for that, be it First Degree or Felony Murder.
hybridlment

Louisville, KY

#76 Apr 2, 2013
She was a very immature and emotionally unstable 27 year old. I know by that age I'd already figured out that you can't hold onto anyone or anything that doesn't want to be held, and your best bet is to go lick your wounds and regroup.

I know she had many issues. I don't doubt that at all. In fact, I think she's shown every trait of a sociopath, and I've known a few. But we can't continue to excuse every person who has an issue when they commit crimes, and then blame others for their hideous behavior. It's very obvious that she's warped. She still can't go around killing people who are basically relating to others normally because it doesn't fit with her neurotic thinking, and we just can't make this a man's problem because she wouldn't let go and move on. At times I believe she wanted to be away from him and realized she was too weak, and the only thing she could do to end it was to make him disappear.

Jodi's particular type of passive aggressiveness makes me want to strike out. I have a clerk at work who operates like her, and many times I have to walk away from her and her whining about being a victim at the same time she's begging people to make her one. Some people relish that role.
hybridlment

Louisville, KY

#77 Apr 2, 2013
I wonder if they'll make it to cross tomorrow? Did I hear there was no court Thursday or Friday?

Since: Mar 13

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#78 Apr 2, 2013
It would be great if cross was tomorrow, even though I have a busy day scheduled. And with all likelihood, the rebuttal and closing will happen when I am away for a family reunion! I will survive, I am sure but will be somewhat sad not to see/hear it.

I do not know about if there is court on Thursday or Friday, but even when they have court, so much time is spent at delay or side bar that I would not miss it if no court on those days.

I think Arias has done some growing up while in jail. I do not think society would be safe if she were out roaming in it though. She has taken no responsibility for her actions (she killed Alexander in "self defense" to which I have seen/heard no evidence). Even when she wrote to Alexander's grandmother, it was because she was "encouraged" to do so. Nothing is ever on her.

It was HER weakness not to be away from Alexander. He was weak too and died at her hands for it. "He made it hard" for her to refuse him. Always someone else. Nothing drives me crazy like someone who takes no accountability or responsibility for their actions. She even testified she does not know if she would have told the truth had she not been caught. Seems she likes to get away with what she can until she gets caught, and then she blames someone else.????!!! I have yet to hear or see her take accountability.

I wonder how LaViolette knows where the truth is in what Arias told her?
hybridlment

Louisville, KY

#79 Apr 2, 2013
The blame game is so prevalent in our society now, especially with this generation. Perhaps many parents didn't let them take the blame or experience any consequences and always made excuses for them. I certainly saw it in my kids' friends parents very often.

LaViolette can't know where the truth is, which is why I'm getting tired of listening to her. She's testifying as though she was there and it's all fact, when in fact it's only what Jodi said. And Jodi is a liar. She's simply parroting Jodi's testimony. She knows nothing else about it other than Jodi's version and hasn't been able to see the other testimony. She's performing for the defense, and as such I've lost respect for her that I had in the beginning before she started with her personal knowledge of everyone and everything.

I don't know how anyone could know where the truth is in what Arias says, actually. I think she's watched the emotions and reactions of other people closely, and she mimics them. Her prior admittedly false statements are delivered exactly like the new (true or false?) statements.

Giving up for the night. Have a great one.
LA Guy

United States

#80 Apr 2, 2013
RamblingRose253 wrote:
Agree on Wilmott's jacket. I love that hue of red!
I have no doubt Arias will be writing a book (probably provide her own sketches, drawings or photos too!). It is my understanding a convict can not earn money but her family sure can.
As for LaViolette, she is a defense witness after all. The poster Cock A Doodle even mentioned LaViolette must have suffered abuse at some time because of her "size." (I know of women of similar size if not more, but due to other things than abuse.) But perhaps LaViolette has been to counseling sessions herself, giving her the goal of becoming a violence expert. I am willing to bet she would not be saying all she is/has had she spoken with Alexander, to give full context to it all.
Cannot wait for Martinez to cross examine her!
p.s. Arias was not forced to stay with Alexander. Due to her own short comings, she chose to stay and hope for something that was not to be.
There are a few Big Womeneven on these forums. Also factor in Hormone Replacement Therapy.

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