jodi arias' defense ptsd my keester

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James Clark

Sanford, NC

#1 Mar 18, 2013
They should save the state money and shoot Arias temple to
temple with a .357.
Then, they should lock up her psychiatrist moron with
the PTSD theory for a year for the most stupid defense
on record.
If the prosecution had this imbecile on the defense side,
he's be 180 degrees different from his PTSD theory.
She should have been executed within 3 months of her
boyfriend's murder.
Our justice system is broken and beyond repair.
James Clark

Sanford, NC

#2 Mar 18, 2013
If the prosecution had this idiot psychiatrist on their side, he'd testify the exact opposite.
Pay him and he'd say anything.


Lexington, KY

#3 Mar 18, 2013
I'm not sure what the PTSD from killing Alexander has to do with her defense. Nobody cares a lot what her state of mind is now! Agree completely with the testimony of the expert - it would be the opposite if the State hired him.

Saint Augustine, FL

#4 Mar 18, 2013
That amnesia theory is the most non sensical thing that I have ever heard of..Besides the "Twinkie theory" around the 1980"s(IN San Francisco)..The guy ate too many twinkies and then committed murder....

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#5 Mar 18, 2013
Hybrid, it seems that Samuels got shot down pretty quickly. He can explain away the complaint against him and too bad the fact he fudged on another testimony in a different case will remain unknown to the jury (for now).

It is a great point you make though, about not caring about her present state of mind. I think the defense is grasping at anything since they have nothing else.

I would like to hear other defense witnesses.

Lexington, KY

#6 Mar 18, 2013
Hey Rose! Nice and quiet over here.

The only problem with his statement that custody is the main source of complaints for psychology is that it's not true.
The main problem with his being excused in any way from the charge against him is that it wasn't excused.
The biggest problem with his testimony is that it just fits so nicely with Jodi's.

NO doctor treats an admonishment, malpractice or complaint lightly, ever. It's a source of pride to not get caught up in anything unethical. If this had played out like he claims, he would have been exonerated. He wasn't.

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#7 Mar 18, 2013
Hello hybrid! Yes indeed, nice and quiet here.

Obviously, the complaint against Samuels was not excused since there is nothing stating it was. I also agree that no professional (doctor, lawyer, police or whatever) would want anything like a complaint in their history.

Do you not have a pathologist in the family or know of one? I would like to know about decomposition of the brain. Dr. Horn testified that he saw no hemorrhagic evidence in Alexander's brain since it had decomposed significantly. Being that the brain is a soft structure, I wonder if it can be determined whether it had hemorrhaged or not? Perhaps coloring would show it?

Nonetheless, we will never know if Alexander was shot or stabbed first. I think main point is about premeditation or not (Arias killing him). I still feel that it was. To me, there is too much circumstantial evidence that supports the premeditation and nothing (other than Arias) to support the abuse.

Lexington, KY

#8 Mar 18, 2013
My (whatever you call them when you're in your 50s - boyfriend?) is a surgical pathologist. I'll show him this if I'm awake when he gets here; if not, tomorrow.

Interested to see where this "depression that's not depression it was just depression" non-therapy goes next. Are you watching live?

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#9 Mar 18, 2013
What surprises me is that Arias was "suicidal" when in jail, according to Samuels. I thought she was suicidal before she got arrested. As for killing herself with a knife (or whatever but it was too painful), was she referring to when she was in jail (her Inside Edition or 48 Hours interview)?

Thanks for checking on my previous question. And yes, I am watching it live at the moment.

Lexington, KY

#10 Mar 18, 2013
What surprises me is that whenever a person indicates they're suicidal, they're held for a 72 hour suicide watch. If you're talking to a counselor and they ask you if you're suicidal and you even hesitate, they inform you that if you are then they can't let you leave. This doctor didn't. He bought and sent her a self-help book instead.

Lexington, KY

#11 Mar 18, 2013
A self-help book intended to help her, which directly violates his role as an evaluator only and shows bias in the case.

And now his diagnosis of PTSD is based on her answers given before she started telling the "truth", or when she was still saying she was attacked by ninjas who killed Travis Alexander.

This doctor is over with the jury.

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#12 Mar 18, 2013
It seems to me Samuels' credibility can rightfully be questioned. I love the way Martinez showed how Samuels' ethics favors himself or the defense who hired him. To me, he is shot.

Lexington, KY

#13 Mar 18, 2013
No kidding. You can't make a diagnosis based on what you know is nothing but lies! Poor Wilmont looks anxious, but the bubble over Nurmi's head would read "We are so f'd now".

Defense attorneys have such a hard time with any defendant, but Jodi has to be a nightmare.

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#14 Mar 18, 2013
I guess he did not know she was lying. Maybe her "truth" had not come out yet, so he did not bother to corroborate anything.

I like the blue in Willmott's outfit. I feel bad for the defense team. A consistent liar as a client. I do not even know where I (as a layperson) can begin to defend someone like that.

I agree that Arias must be a nightmare.

I wonder what she writes the whole time they are in court? Is she writing a novel? Maybe a screen play of the story of her life? Prior to her taking the stand, I think she wrote things down so she can answer questions that would come her way. She did have over 4 years time to think up scenarios and answers that would support her claims. She is a bonafide liar but she is no dummy.

Lexington, KY

#15 Mar 18, 2013
I love Willmott's blue suit. She looks a little like my daughter who unfortunately also has a tough road but is young and still believes she can make a difference (public interest law).

He testified that he knew she was lying about the ninja attack, but was letting her work through it to the truth. During that time, with that story, he administered this test and diagnosed PTSD (based on the ninjas). He has no diagnosis on the "true" story; therefore, he has no diagnosis.

They're doing the best they can with what they have, and Jodi is convinced she's smarter than they are so not helping a lot. I think she's writing notes to Willmott today. At times she's drawing.

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#16 Mar 18, 2013
Good for your daughter! Even if only one life is touched, then she has made a difference. As we grow, we become more judicious about where or when it is we will spend our energy to make a difference.

I must have missed the part where Samuels claims he knew she was lying about the ninja story. If his diagnosis is that of her lies, then he really does not have a diagnosis. Makes me wonder what purpose he served being a defense witness?

There was an article by Dr. Lillian Glass about her take on Arias' body language. Part of what Glass claimed was Arias thinks she is smart enough to beat the charges against her. I had to laugh. It still amazes me how someone can be so full of themselves!

So tomorrow, Martinez continues to grill Samuels to discredit him?

Lexington, KY

#17 Mar 19, 2013
Rose - I read your question to him and this is what I got: It's hard to answer that without hearing exactly what the doctor said.(I think they only trust non-lay people statements, including mine). He did agree of course that there would be no hemorrhage if he was already dead, but we knew that. Sigh. Clinical/surgical pathologists view forensics as somewhat subjective, based on logic rather than the exacting tests they themselves perform to reach conclusions.

They're kind of nerds at times and can drive you crazy with their OCD and adversity to change, but this one became my best friend.

Finishing up so I can head home and catch today's testimony. Have a great day!

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#18 Mar 19, 2013
Thanks hybrid. I was just curious about the brain's decomposition and what can be garnered from it.

We all have a little something that drives others crazy. Change is not always easy but I have found it is best to roll with it. Lucky you found a best friend (at our age, I think that is a great way to refer to our 'significant other' or 'partner'.)

Only caught the last half hour before recess so I will do the recap until I can really pay attention to it tonight. Hope you are having a good day.

Lexington, KY

#19 Mar 19, 2013
It's more of the same, Rose. Dr. Samuels is popping out in sweat and blinking his eyes rapidly. He needs a little more of Jodi's cool on the stand. This expert is finished by reasonable and logical thinking; too much shady going on in all of it, and bias is obvious and documented.

I don't know if the other expert actually talked with Jodi or is just testifying about the general state of mind of battered women. She'll need to work hard to overcome the damage Samuels has done so far.

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#20 Mar 19, 2013
Samuels has already shown he is questionable and cannot always be believed. I do not understand why Martinez is still questioning him, but maybe it is to be thorough to discount any doubt that Samuels is a weasel. I can understand some posting that Martinez is alienating the jury, but he has a good track record so he cannot be that bad. I do look forward to rebuttal and closings.

Get Samuels off the stand and let us get on with Viollette already.

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