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#23 Jan 25, 2011
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<quoted text>Oh I get it now. Whatever it takes. Just hand over as much of my money as the state deems necessary without question or justification. What kind of dictatorship are you promoting? Your right about one thing. The state representatives do need to "contemplate the reality of the situation and go back and fix all their mistakes that put us in this situation", like overpaid and over compensated double dipping public employees for one.
Over the past ten years state agencies have been forced to pour billions of dollars into the state's six pension systems to keep pace with continual benefit enhancements. All while the private sector has been cutting and eliminating benefits. Carol Peck, who retired as superintendent of a Phoenix area Elementary School District in July 2002 receives a $226,422 annual pension! For life! Thats about $4,352.00 per week! That is insane! The waste in government is huge and I'm not sustaining it. You right again, when I think about Carol Peck I say, THE PARTY IS OVER!
No, the point is you don't decide. Your elected representatives do. If you would like to go and run for office maybe you could convince people that they can have a high class modern Arizona and not pay for it. As for the Superintendent pension you need to talk to the school board members about it because they searched for, hired, and agreed to give him that before he took the job. When I was first licensed as a Superintendent in Indiana I went to my professor of Education Administration at Illinois and showed him the document. We had a good laugh and I asked him what exactly a superintendent did. He shrugged and said, "They go to lunch a lot." There is some interesting research that shows that superintendents are a waste of money, but school boards think you have to hire them and pay them big bucks. School board people are usually small time local politicians who can't get elected to real jobs. So go lobby your local school board member to put a stop to that foolishness, but he or she is certain to think you are a crackpot because everyone knows that you get what you pay for, which is usually the case but in certain areas like education and hospital administration it simply does not work that way.

As for the state of Arizona you do get what you pay for and you aren't paying enough.
Enough

Gilbert, AZ

#24 Jan 26, 2011
laojim wrote:
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No, the point is you don't decide. Your elected representatives do. If you would like to go and run for office maybe you could convince people that they can have a high class modern Arizona and not pay for it. As for the Superintendent pension you need to talk to the school board members about it because they searched for, hired, and agreed to give him that before he took the job. When I was first licensed as a Superintendent in Indiana I went to my professor of Education Administration at Illinois and showed him the document. We had a good laugh and I asked him what exactly a superintendent did. He shrugged and said, "They go to lunch a lot." There is some interesting research that shows that superintendents are a waste of money, but school boards think you have to hire them and pay them big bucks. School board people are usually small time local politicians who can't get elected to real jobs. So go lobby your local school board member to put a stop to that foolishness, but he or she is certain to think you are a crackpot because everyone knows that you get what you pay for, which is usually the case but in certain areas like education and hospital administration it simply does not work that way.
As for the state of Arizona you do get what you pay for and you aren't paying enough.
No. Your Obama said differently last night. "Every day families sacrifice to live within their means. They deserve a government that does the same." His words. Does that mean he gets it? Of course not. He speech was far more about spending than cuts. You are a true believer. Tax and spend.
Robert McDonnell, a Republican hit the mark last night in response to Obamas speech. "The circumstances of our time demand that we reconsider and restore the proper, limited role of government at every level". "EVERY LEVEL". That includes Arizona. "LIMITED ROLE OF GOVERNMENT" That includes Arizona. Understand yet? I as well as many others are paying more than enough in taxes to support a reasonable amount of government. We are not paying enough to support an over bloated, wasteful government. It time for government employees on all levels to sacrifice some of their fat benefits and salaries. You know, feel some of our pain.

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#25 Jan 26, 2011
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<quoted text>No. Your Obama said differently last night. "Every day families sacrifice to live within their means. They deserve a government that does the same." His words. Does that mean he gets it? Of course not. He speech was far more about spending than cuts. You are a true believer. Tax and spend.
Robert McDonnell, a Republican hit the mark last night in response to Obamas speech. "The circumstances of our time demand that we reconsider and restore the proper, limited role of government at every level". "EVERY LEVEL". That includes Arizona. "LIMITED ROLE OF GOVERNMENT" That includes Arizona. Understand yet? I as well as many others are paying more than enough in taxes to support a reasonable amount of government. We are not paying enough to support an over bloated, wasteful government. It time for government employees on all levels to sacrifice some of their fat benefits and salaries. You know, feel some of our pain.
Obama has little to do with running the state of Arizona. I would have thought you knew that. Go rant somewhere else.
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Phoenix, AZ

#26 Jan 26, 2011
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Obama has little to do with running the state of Arizona. I would have thought you knew that. Go rant somewhere else.
Is that all you got? Nothing left? Feeling kind of empty? Typical liberal.

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#27 Jan 27, 2011
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<quoted text>Is that all you got? Nothing left? Feeling kind of empty? Typical liberal.
I find it remarkable that you self styled conservatives always and ever return to appealing to a single individual as though you believed that this is a monarchy of some sort. The duties and responsibilities are well known to those who know how America works and they do not include executive authority over any state. Had you realized that you would not have appealed to him in your previous rant. I hope this helps you in understanding what you obviously find to be a confusing and complicated world.

Is that all I have? Sure, it is all I need to answer your foolish writing. If you would like to try again and, this time, show some understanding of this country's political system perhaps I could tell you more.
Enough

Mesa, AZ

#28 Jan 28, 2011
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I find it remarkable that you self styled conservatives always and ever return to appealing to a single individual as though you believed that this is a monarchy of some sort. The duties and responsibilities are well known to those who know how America works and they do not include executive authority over any state. Had you realized that you would not have appealed to him in your previous rant. I hope this helps you in understanding what you obviously find to be a confusing and complicated world.
Is that all I have? Sure, it is all I need to answer your foolish writing. If you would like to try again and, this time, show some understanding of this country's political system perhaps I could tell you more.
So the self proclaimed political hotshot has more BS to offer? Here's what you have offered so far.

"Everyone believes that Arizona is just better than buttered toast, but they don't believe it is worth paying for". Well butter me up and call me silly, BUT I HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR IT. ALL ALONG.

"Jan (Brewer) is not the government of Arizona". What????

"When you are broke only a fool goes about chopping up the house; you'll end up broke in the rain". So it is far better to add on to the house and make it bigger and more expensive to maintain. Brilliant.

"Most of what you said makes not sense". This coming from a former school superintendent.

"The point is simple. I a situation like this you can get more money or cut expenditures". Here is your problem pal. Your stuck on "get more money" (from the taxpayers)

"What I fail to understand is why people argue that Arizona is such a wonderful place and still refuse to pay for it," And just what in the hell do you think us taxpayers have been doing? We HAVE been paying. And paying and paying......

"Bush wanted to invade a lot of innocent nations for no good reason" What this has to do with Arizona's economy is beyond me. But hey your the one who said "I find it remarkable that you self styled conservatives always and ever return to appealing to a single individual" Just can't stop bashing Bush can you?

"When are people in this state going to grow up and pay for their fun?" I've been paying but I have no idea what this "fun" is your talking about.

"When I was first licensed as a Superintendent in Indiana I went to my professor of Education Administration" This explains everything. Your from Indiana!!!

"There is some interesting research that shows that superintendents are a waste of money" And yet you took the money and ran and sit here and preach that the only solution in Arizona is to raise taxes.

Indiana. It explains everything. Your basic lack of financial understanding. Your grammar. Your propensity to want to raise taxes as the only solution. People just like you are the reason we are in the situation we are in. You messed up, did not live within your means, and now you want the people who have played by the rules, made the necessary sacrifices, controlled their spending and dutifully payed their fair share of taxes to pony up some more.

I am sick and tired of you morons wanting to take my money and bail out banks, car manufacturers, home owners, and everyone else all who through plain greed and mismanagement have helped put us in this mess. Sorry, I'm tapped out.

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#29 Jan 28, 2011
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<quoted text>So the self proclaimed political hotshot has more BS to offer? Here's what you have offered so far.
"Everyone believes that Arizona is just better than buttered toast, but they don't believe it is worth paying for". Well butter me up and call me silly, BUT I HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR IT. ALL ALONG.
"Jan (Brewer) is not the government of Arizona". What????
"When you are broke only a fool goes about chopping up the house; you'll end up broke in the rain". So it is far better to add on to the house and make it bigger and more expensive to maintain. Brilliant.
"Most of what you said makes not sense". This coming from a former school superintendent.
"The point is simple. I a situation like this you can get more money or cut expenditures". Here is your problem pal. Your stuck on "get more money" (from the taxpayers)
"What I fail to understand is why people argue that Arizona is such a wonderful place and still refuse to pay for it," And just what in the hell do you think us taxpayers have been doing? We HAVE been paying. And paying and paying......
"Bush wanted to invade a lot of innocent nations for no good reason" What this has to do with Arizona's economy is beyond me. But hey your the one who said "I find it remarkable that you self styled conservatives always and ever return to appealing to a single individual" Just can't stop bashing Bush can you?
"When are people in this state going to grow up and pay for their fun?" I've been paying but I have no idea what this "fun" is your talking about.
"When I was first licensed as a Superintendent in Indiana I went to my professor of Education Administration" This explains everything. Your from Indiana!!!
"There is some interesting research that shows that superintendents are a waste of money" And yet you took the money and ran and sit here and preach that the only solution in Arizona is to raise taxes.
Indiana. It explains everything. Your basic lack of financial understanding. Your grammar. Your propensity to want to raise taxes as the only solution. People just like you are the reason we are in the situation we are in. You messed up, did not live within your means, and now you want the people who have played by the rules, made the necessary sacrifices, controlled their spending and dutifully payed their fair share of taxes to pony up some more.
I am sick and tired of you morons wanting to take my money and bail out banks, car manufacturers, home owners, and everyone else all who through plain greed and mismanagement have helped put us in this mess. Sorry, I'm tapped out.
It was largely self styled conservatives that created the financial difficulties of the nation. Since 1980 they have been buying votes by offering endless tax cuts and now that the bankruptcy looms they say they are broke. If you don't think Arizona is worth paying for I suggest you move to South Dakota, where there is no state income tax. In the mean time, tell the IRS how broke you are.

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#30 Jan 28, 2011
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Tempe, AZ

#31 Jan 28, 2011
laojim wrote:
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It was largely self styled conservatives that created the financial difficulties of the nation. Since 1980 they have been buying votes by offering endless tax cuts and now that the bankruptcy looms they say they are broke. If you don't think Arizona is worth paying for I suggest you move to South Dakota, where there is no state income tax. In the mean time, tell the IRS how broke you are.
I think you are in need of a history lesson. And who better to give it to you. It was yours truly, William Jefferson Clinton in an effort to promote affordable housing, ordered Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to refrain from normal banking rules. This allowed home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements to borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings were not good enough to qualify for a loan in the first place. It was this housing collapse that began the financial difficulties of the nation. With the stroke of his pen, Clinton undid regulations and safeguards that had been in place for decades.
Sorry, can't use your republican conspiracy theories here. And by the way, I remind the IRS how broke I am yearly.

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#32 Jan 29, 2011
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#33 Jan 29, 2011
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<quoted text>I think you are in need of a history lesson. And who better to give it to you. It was yours truly, William Jefferson Clinton in an effort to promote affordable housing, ordered Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to refrain from normal banking rules. This allowed home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements to borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings were not good enough to qualify for a loan in the first place. It was this housing collapse that began the financial difficulties of the nation. With the stroke of his pen, Clinton undid regulations and safeguards that had been in place for decades.
Sorry, can't use your republican conspiracy theories here. And by the way, I remind the IRS how broke I am yearly.
Yawn. "The Democrats did it." Yawn. Is that the best you can do?
Clearly you have failed to grasp the key point her, which is that there is no point in carrying on about there only be one way to fix the current financial difficulties of the state of Arizona. One of the more logical options is to raise the income tax in the state, as some other states are starting to do. I asked the rhetorical question, "If you think Arizona is a great place why aren't you willing to pay for it?" Your only response has been to object that the rich already pay part of the bill. So the question remains, if this is a great state to live in why not pay what it costs? It's expensive to run a high class modern state so either you raise the money or go to some state with an entirely different tax structure, like South Dakota or Florida.

You can't worm your way out any of this by claiming a Republican conspiracy theory. There is nothing to prove. Republicans have been publicly running on the tax cutting platform across the nation for thirty years. A conspiracy need not be secret. It may be in plain sight and still be a conspiracy. That some Democrats have bought into that approach is neither here not there as they are a minority in the "perpetual tax cuts for prosperity" song and dance. It was and is a Republican scam that has bought the votes of countless Americans.

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