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Savage killing, sex at heart of Jodi Arias murder trial

There are 687 comments on the KTVK Phoenix story from Jan 8, 2013, titled Savage killing, sex at heart of Jodi Arias murder trial. In it, KTVK Phoenix reports that:

A nude Jodi Arias on Travis Alexander's bed. A naked Alexander in the shower. Then minutes later, an image of Alexander stabbed and slashed nearly 30 times in the heart, back, hands and torso, shot in the head, his throat slit from ear to ear.

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All Good Things

Spring, TX

#562 Apr 24, 2013
Also, I read on another thread that Ariasp mentioned the Alanis Morissette song. I had heard it but never really paid attention to the lyrics.

you can go to you tube and listen to the song plus get the lyrics.
It's spooky when you think that maybe this is really how she felt
about him. I don't want to go back and listen to what I think is a doctored sex tape or something cobbled together from different conversations.

I can picture her rolling down the highway, gas cans in the back, blasting Alanis Morrissette, munching on McDonald's french fries, applying sunscreen to try to stay lighter, and swilling Costco water.

You Oughta Know
Alanis Morrissette
All Good Things

Spring, TX

#563 Apr 24, 2013
I'm going to put the gas calculations for the trip from LA, CA to
Mesa, Arizona and may even do Mesa Az to Salt Lake City because I'm bored waiting for the trial to come on. It appears she would need the gas cans to make the trip without having to stop at a station.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/Trip_Calculator.aspx
All Good Things

Spring, TX

#564 Apr 24, 2013
Another thing they have never focused on is that someone had to take her to Redding to rent the car and to Redding to drop off the car. The gentleman at the car rental place said she had a male with her, but that's as far as it went.

I'm going to need some mac/cheese comfort food if this continues. They just keep doing reruns of the same footage I've seen a million times and no trial probably on until 1:30 p.m., probably about the time I need to leave to go somewhere.

I wish they could find the knife, gun, her clothes, etc. or find where she ditched those things. Did she have help?

If Mott-Mott says "Dirty Little Secret" one more time...that is such b.s. Everyone knew about Jodi. She is the first one mentioned on the 911 tape.

I don't believe that Deanna did not know more about Jodi, but I think she wanted to keep that door closed. And maybe he didn't talk about all the things he and Jodi were doing because he respected Deanna. Hard to know.

Since: Jan 13

Bundoora, Australia

#565 Apr 24, 2013
hybridlment wrote:
The computer showed that he had accessed You Tube and watched 3 different videos of Daft Hands. It's far from pornographic. It's becoming less and less clear to me why this has become about Travis, and not Jodi. Jodi was the uneducated waitress who lived off people, had few friends, a disturbing past, lies pathologically and brutally slaughtered a man for "abandoning" her. She's on trial, not him. The defense keeps grasping but they're getting nowhere.
Juries can be odd, and there's no way of predicting what they'll do. However, Jodi Arias needs to be out of society for what she's done. Travis' biggest sin at this point seems to be that he was sexually active and wanted Jodi out of his life.
She did have friends. One went on HLN to show jodi as bridesmaid at her wedding. The family decided not to talk to the media because they felt their words would be twisted. They didn't want to go down that road.
By contrast Travis family and friends have been all over the media. I would like to point out that two of Travis friends and one of his girlfriends also testified for the defence.
All Good Things

Spring, TX

#566 Apr 24, 2013
That bridesmaid video was 2004. It is now 2013 plus some change.

Does anyone wonder why she was always a bridesmaid and never a bride?

Since: Jan 13

Bundoora, Australia

#567 Apr 24, 2013
All Good Things wrote:
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When I read the report compiled by Det. Flores (just the facts) it became clear to me that there were two doors to the closet. She would not have been trapped in the closet and she could have escaped through several doors out of what they called his apt.
There's lots of oddities that come to mind such as staging some of it. Someone wearing her pants and shoes and her taking pics. I do believe she is crazy and did want photos of him dead. There's always a distant possibility that someone else wanted him dead, but she would have to supply photos for proof. I could see her do something for GAIN even more than for PASSION. She seems like a cold fish most of the time and only fake cries when it appears that is what she SHOULD be doing.
Sometimes she appears almost schizoid, other times like some of the Aspies that committed horrific crimes. While they have her incarcerated and have the means to test and diagnosis her, every ROCK should be turned over and look under every BUSH.
As for the defense attorneys, I realize they are doing their jobs and want to continue in their careers.
Mott's was mainly annoying when she springing up every 5 seconds and smirking or making little victory ah's when she got her way. Since then, it seems even she has realized that she shouldn't be trying so hard to free a murderer. The evidence is damning. The only question I have left is if she took someone with her on the trip or met up with someone else afterwards besides Ryan Burns. Does anyone know where Matt McCartney lives and if he ever testified again after her snippy f-bomb note she sent him.
Until she is found guilty, she will have many more freedoms and rights. Wonder what life will be like after the guilty verdict. I guess she will be busy playing paralegal on her appeal. I truly think she LOVES it.
I think the truth lies in that there were two people. It was way too much for one person to manage in 96 seconds. I think Travis knew she was photographing him as there are two facial photos and neither are happy shots.
comments like "he wouldn't die" when she described the Ninjas make it sound like that was her feelings.
The car smelled of smoke. Jodi doesn't smoke. For a while I thought that it was from burning stuff in the desert. I think someone else was in the car for a while.
What also bothers me is the dog guard up. Enrique's room was upstairs. As soon as he went upstairs the dog guard had to be moved. Travis generally allowed the dog free reign so how come the dog didn't react? try to get upstairs? scratch at the door to travis' room? How did Jodi kill Travis in that short time and then clean up before Enrique got home? Flores report seems to confuse the day of the murder with the day after the murder. The house was cleaned the day after he was murdered. How is that?

Since: Jan 13

Bundoora, Australia

#568 Apr 24, 2013
All Good Things wrote:
Is anyone else seeing a trend where killers/attackers get diagnosed with
Asperger's more and more? Some say it can get acquittal? Why didn't they try this for her or is she more Borderline/Psycopathic Deviate/Schizoid?
I think she scored around 40 on schizoid but didn't meet Dr. DM's cut-off for significance.
Her high verbal IQ comes from somewhere. It isn't from her upbringing. That's for sure.
is she bi lingual?
growing up speaking two languages can help develop the brain so that it is more receptive to language learning in certain people. I have twins that are bilingual. My daughter is much more flexible in language and has taught herself arabic just by sitting in on conversations. Jodi has learned sign language in jail.
All Good Things

Spring, TX

#569 Apr 24, 2013
Buddyette wrote:
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I am sorry;I know Juan Martinez is brilliant. What I am referring to is the frustration he suffered when he was trying to get LaViolette on the ropes;in many instances, she had him for lunch instead.(mixed metaphors) I am not familiar with law, but I felt he very badly needed some fall-back questions, well-articulated ones he could go to for mop-up and for getting back on track.
I love the man.
I love the way Detective Flores says Esteban Flores.

Is Mott_Mott preparing to go to a funeral? All black, her and her Twinn Doll.

Is the defense giving up yet?

Martinez is thorough and organized. He is a pleasure to watch.

The end is near.

Testimony will be completed May 1, 2013, no matter how late court continues. They should have wrapped this up much sooner. No smirks from the defense team.
All Good Things

Spring, TX

#570 Apr 24, 2013
hybridlment wrote:
The computer showed that he had accessed You Tube and watched 3 different videos of Daft Hands. It's far from pornographic. It's becoming less and less clear to me why this has become about Travis, and not Jodi. Jodi was the uneducated waitress who lived off people, had few friends, a disturbing past, lies pathologically and brutally slaughtered a man for "abandoning" her. She's on trial, not him. The defense keeps grasping but they're getting nowhere.
Juries can be odd, and there's no way of predicting what they'll do. However, Jodi Arias needs to be out of society for what she's done. Travis' biggest sin at this point seems to be that he was sexually active and wanted Jodi out of his life.
I listen while I am doing other things, but Dr. Drew believes her pathology began before age 14 but that you don't diagnose an individual with Borderline Personality until at least age 17-18. I mentioned Borderline Personality to someone who is fairly intelligent and she had no clue what Borderline Personality Disorder would be. Fortunately, I had Abnormal Psych and many other classes which makes this whole case easier to understand.

I know it's terrible, but I wish Travis could have taken her out instead of the other way around. I still wonder how she overcame a man who was close to 200 lbs. and not only harmed him but killed him.
It is tragic.

You summed it up very well, Hybrid.
Really

United States

#571 Apr 24, 2013
More sidebar & recess then testimony today? Is this cutting into juans time for rebuttle since The judge set ending dates already???
All Good Things

Spring, TX

#572 Apr 24, 2013
Lexington wrote:
Did you see the e-mail from Travis that said his biggest regret in live was not marrying her. They were both young. Church girl and boys are still human, with desires like the rest of us.
I didn't realize until the trial that if you aren't married by the time you are 30, you are put in a different group or different ward? Sorry if I am misrepresenting facts, but that is my understanding. I'm sure his family wishes he had married Deanna Reid also. I don't believe anything that "Judas Jo" says. I try to not let it enter my brain when they go back and revisit testimony from her. It seems ilke the things she was saying about Deanna should be applied to her instead.

Did you see footage of Grandma? Did they wheel her in to try to get sympathy? She acts all strange and then looks through her hands to see if anyone is buying it. I think the nut didn't fall far from the tree.
hybridlment

Louisville, KY

#573 Apr 24, 2013
All Good Things wrote:
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I think the nut didn't fall far from the tree.
I think you're right.

“LEST WE FORGET...”

Since: Apr 09

MT DORA FL

#574 Apr 24, 2013
hybridlment wrote:
The computer showed that he had accessed You Tube and watched 3 different videos of Daft Hands. It's far from pornographic. It's becoming less and less clear to me why this has become about Travis, and not Jodi. Jodi was the uneducated waitress who lived off people, had few friends, a disturbing past, lies pathologically and brutally slaughtered a man for "abandoning" her. She's on trial, not him. The defense keeps grasping but they're getting nowhere.
Juries can be odd, and there's no way of predicting what they'll do. However, Jodi Arias needs to be out of society for what she's done. Travis' biggest sin at this point seems to be that he was sexually active and wanted Jodi out of his life.
GREAT POST!
All Good Things

Spring, TX

#575 Apr 25, 2013
hybridlment wrote:
Fog, who (except Jodi) cares how smart she is? Travis was smart, too, you're smart, I'm smart - what does that have to do with being killed or killing? What is their point in the "smart" thing? This is not an academic contest, it's a murder trial.
Travis was full of himself, and I doubt I'd want to spend large amounts of time listening to him (or her). But he was employed, owned his home, car, had tons of friends, family that actually liked him, and other than Jodi his life was pretty normal. Not one person has disputed that he was a "good guy", not violent or abusive. Just Jodi, the phenomenal liar/chameleon, who is on trial for his murder.
I can't believe there is a juror that hasn't seen through the fog they've tried to create. When it clears, they have to see that she's the only really rotten apple in the bunch.
Do you believe she is probably demon-possessed and would kill again like Richard Ramirez?



I'm sure whatever his IQ was didn't make any difference because he was deranged.

Yesterday, more of her lies were debunked. She isn't even smart enough to make up stories that
are plausible.

What is Nurmi's IQ?
He asks some of the stupidest questions on the planet.
He won't be missed when the trial is over.
LA Guy

United States

#576 Apr 25, 2013
Spring, Texas

Next week, perfect timing.

Dr Robert Gefner for the defense...renown DV expert and a real pro...sure that DR DM will be tuned in that day

Just Google him and reflect on his extensive resume

Brilliant timing and move on the Chess Board by Wilmont/Nurmi



LA Guy

United States

#577 Apr 25, 2013
All Good Things wrote:
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What is Nurmi's IQ?
In my range, mid 130's
LA Guy

United States

#578 Apr 25, 2013
Why is JM recalling the ME...think about that one.

Something perhaps out of sequence?
All Good Things

Spring, TX

#579 Apr 25, 2013
The gunshot was not first. Add that to "he wouldn't die" and she shot him because she could not tell if he was dead.

Just one theory.

I know for certain that a 125-130 lb person with a stature of 5' 6" did not
use those shelves as a ladder. They will only hold about 30 lbs., are flimsy
and she needs to come up with better stories. There was no gun of Travis's on the top shelf.

She would have been better off to not testify or to come clean. She has not done either.
All Good Things

Spring, TX

#580 Apr 25, 2013
LA Guy wrote:
Spring, Texas
Next week, perfect timing.
Dr Robert Gefner for the defense...renown DV expert and a real pro...sure that DR DM will be tuned in that day
Just Google him and reflect on his extensive resume
Brilliant timing and move on the Chess Board by Wilmont/Nurmi
Until they get an MD/psychiatrist I'm going to stick my fingers in my ears and say
Jar Jar Stanks Stabbs Skanks, etc.

Giving Jar Jar a label like BORDERLINE just meant that she has a personality disorder that probably no one on the jury even understands. They need to compare her to some other killer for a frame of reference. I haven't had my coffee yet, but I have some Newman's Own which is jet fuel for me.

I will be back with clarity LATER.

Court to resume about 11:30 my time which means by 3:00 p.m. they will have more rebuttals. The rebuttals are less than riveting. Should I go get nails done, hair dyed, cut and styled plus a Brazilian wax (ouch, ouch, ouch)? She must like pain.

Her pics of that region of the Brazilian wax were hideous. She looked like a plastic anatomically correct Barbie doll with worn out orifices. Who is going to pay for my therapy and hold me after I have NIGHTMARES?

Any idea why Travis's genitals were burgundy? Did she drug him? Could the pictures have been from another day? If she had taken them with a new cell phone, the time would be correct and the GPS would locate the pics she took on her trip. Did she send the after salon pic to Travis? Look like she had a makeover in hopes of getting on that Cancun trip.
hybridlment

Louisville, KY

#581 Apr 25, 2013
I think today is a short court day, not sure. I'd say she had a makeover in hopes of not being easily recognized at his house. That white hair she had stands out.

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