Jodi Arias claims self-defense as mur...

Jodi Arias claims self-defense as murder trial begins

There are 7233 comments on the KTVK Phoenix story from Jan 2, 2013, titled Jodi Arias claims self-defense as murder trial begins. In it, KTVK Phoenix reports that:

A defense attorney says an Arizona woman charged with stabbing and shooting her boyfriend to death in 2008 acted in self-defense because he was violent and abusive.

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Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4451 May 1, 2013
LG, what color suit? nice :)
Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4452 May 1, 2013
R&R w/soft latte :) light brown sherpa, on the couch... bicep sore r arm ... tired of it, although I'm always a good patient :) listening now to military canine specialist, love those guys and dogs, US finest
Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4453 May 1, 2013
LG I hope you have a good day :) Godspeed xoxo

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#4454 May 1, 2013
Some information about Dr. Geffner, compiled by Eilleen Dimminger
Interesting info on the last defense witness-Dr. Geffner:
Though Dr. Geffner has some pretty hefty credentials he also has some serious issues having been impeached in some court cases. Check it out:

1. His background is impressive, he is the Founder and President of the Family Violence and Sexual Assault Institute in San Diego, California. He has been a researcher and consultant for 28 years and has presented over 450 key note speeches.

2. Now the bad news- for him:(This info is from a comment made by 'Nancy B' on the 'My Crime Time' blog). Regarding the Case of Cyndie O'Rourke v. James O'Rourke the court found Dr. Geffner to be nothing more than a 'hired gun' for the Mother in this case. This was a divorce/custody case where the Father prevailed. Apparently the MMPI test found 'maladaptive personality traits' in the Mother and Dr. Geffner challenged the use of the MMPI test and even went on to recommend that the Mother file ethics complaints against the other mental health professionals in the case.He felt he was the expert and the others were out of their expertise.(Nancy B. shares a link for info. on the 'My Crime Time' blog). This indicates to me he will most likely imply the MMPI test is not valid in this case and Dr. Demarte doesn't have the credentials that he does and her opinion is therefore inadequate.

3. Dr. Geffner testified that he no longer treats patients but devotes all his time to consulting work related to his specialty. He has been an expert witness in a number of cases in different jurisdictions. Though he has testified in a great number of cases he stated that he did not remember very much about the facts of those cases.

4. In a Texas case; Clark v. Collins, 956 F.2d 68 (5th Circuit 1992) the court found that Dr. Geffner's affidavit lacked credibility, in part because it was based on hearsay information supplied by the defendant's attorney with no independent verification.(Sound like any defense attorneys we know who believe everything their client says?)

5. The court also excluded the Dr.'s testimony in Hawaii v. French, 129 P.3d 581 (Hawaii 2006) involving allegations of child sexual abuse.

6. In State v. Supulvado, 655 So.2d 623 (La. App. 1995) the court limited most of his testimony as he relied mostly on the information supplied by the defendant and he testified about effects of brain damage on emotional functioning though he is not a medical doctor.

7. So I dug a little more and found this:

Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 687, 104 S.Ct. 2052, 2064, 80 L.Ed.2d 674 (1984). "[C]ounsel is strongly presumed to have rendered adequate assistance and made all significant decisions in the exercise of reasonable professional judgment. Id. at 690, 104 S.Ct. at 2066.

22 The state trial court found that Dr. Geffner's affidavit lacked credibility for three reasons:(1) the evaluation, which makes conclusions as to Clark's conduct in 1987, was conducted five years later, in 1992; (2) Dr. Geffner did not review the court records or a transcript of the trial testimony; and (3) Dr. Geffner relied upon records from Clark's childhood in Pennsylvania, with no records since 1976, and upon hearsay information supplied by Clark's attorneys, with no independent verification of the information, and interviews with Clark. The state court further found that, even if credible, Dr. Geffner's affidavit does not support a conclusion that Clark was either incompetent or insane at the time of the murders, or that he did not act deliberately within the meaning of the first special issue.

8. Oh, and did I mention he was an editor for Alyce LaViolette?
Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4455 May 1, 2013
I think the jurors will call it a wash with the experts since they saw JA in action on the stand, combined w/the texts and tapes. Obviously, she is messed up now, whatever the diagnosis is.
Not premeditated because of 13 hours, haphazard scene, and their history of a relationship turned mean and perverse from him, which she allowed to be with him. TA could've moved on, if she stayed away, but she was too weak, and too entwined.
Not a new scenario, but because this case is televised it seems more curious.
LA Guy

United States

#4456 May 1, 2013
Good Day wrote:
I think the jurors will call it a wash with the experts since they saw JA in action on the stand, combined w/the texts and tapes. Obviously, she is messed up now, whatever the diagnosis is.
Not premeditated because of 13 hours, haphazard scene, and their history of a relationship turned mean and perverse from him, which she allowed to be with him. TA could've moved on, if she stayed away, but she was too weak, and too entwined.
Not a new scenario, but because this case is televised it seems more curious.
Just back Hun, caught the last part of direct and JM taking Dr G on cross. One thing even his detractors should realize, is that Dr DM did a half assed job, overlooked so much.

So big deal that Dr Geffner got criticized by two judges, in his over 30 year span. That prob just happens with expert wits in this legal arena. I think that Dr G is professional and highly competent.

Good point as to the wash of expert wits, but tilts in favor as to JA being emotionaly beat down. As you mentioned, the 13 hour time frame and confusing crime scene supports non premeditation.
The tapes, beyond the phone sex, supports abuse.
Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4457 May 1, 2013
Hi LG, How was your day?
I'm catching up on part 2 youtube :)
LA Guy

United States

#4458 May 1, 2013
Good Day wrote:
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:) you have a special request, future request ???
yes, but short time frames, not good for my feet, could have them on display for you :)
Yes, I do have special requests:)

Navy blue pinstripe suit(two button, side vents), starched white shirt (non button down), sky blue tie, of course shined black nice shoes.
Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4459 May 1, 2013
LA Guy wrote:
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Yes, I do have special requests:)
Navy blue pinstripe suit(two button, side vents), starched white shirt (non button down), sky blue tie, of course shined black nice shoes.
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:) likewise
Nice suit :)
the shirt? is it a hidden placket?? perplexed LG
LA Guy

United States

#4460 May 1, 2013
Good Day wrote:
Hi LG, How was your day?
I'm catching up on part 2 youtube :)
OK, nice day

Catching cross live on HLN.

JM at times being overly rude.
Dr G remaining cool and polite.

Contrast him, with Dr DM's robotic
and defensive behavior on cross
LA Guy

United States

#4461 May 1, 2013
Good Day wrote:
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:) likewise
Nice suit :)
the shirt? is it a hidden placket?? perplexed LG
Not hidden placket shirt, do not care for them... I should have specified non button down shirt collar...do not wear button down collared shirts with a suit
LA Guy

United States

#4462 May 1, 2013
no1 granny wrote:
Some information about Dr. Geffner, compiled by Eilleen Dimminger
Nice work Granny. You have surpised me, since at first I thought you were a former dancer (stripper)

Most of the long list you kindly posted by Eileenn Dimminger and Nancy Grace, was more of their propaganda and out of context at
that.

Have you watched any of Dr Gefner's testimony? Obvious,
he outclasses Dr DM. She is a lightweight in comparison.
What do you think?

Note: Would not recommend you bet a months income on a
First Degree conviction.
Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4463 May 1, 2013
LG,you are so right about this Dr. D. Energy, expressive, good natured. What a contrast.
Now, LG, what's for dinner, or do you have a light snack?
Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4464 May 1, 2013
Dr. G not D
LA Guy

United States

#4465 May 1, 2013
Good Day wrote:
Dr. G not D
OK, thanks

Nancy Grace reporting that the judge if necessary will keep the court in session until 12 midnight, to finish up with the testimony.

Wow, if she had just had this attitude previously.

She should also require the jury to deliberate over the
week end.
LA Guy

United States

#4466 May 1, 2013
Good Day wrote:
LG,you are so right about this Dr. D. Energy, expressive, good natured. What a contrast.
Now, LG, what's for dinner, or do you have a light snack?
Had a late lunch, 2:30 pm, a large healthy tostada, lots of lettuce, avocados, and tomatoos, chunks of chicken breast, great salsa, cold freshly brewed Iced Tea

Not even hungry now
LA Guy

United States

#4467 May 1, 2013
Ms Wilmont looks alarmed or maybe just tired.

JM just rested. He did OK, but spent a lot of time trying to rehabilitate DR DM's half assed work. Dr Geffert held up well.

Dr Drew now on, bad mouthing Dr Geffert, but made an interesting remark as to the Jury actually liking him.

Wow, Dr Drew's panel badmouthing Mr Martinez, surprised to hear this from them. Mentioned that JM was coming off as a bully and was more of a destraction in arguing about stuff like page numbers.

I do not care for most of these panels. They are just trying to hedge their bets, since early on they claimed it was a slam dunk.
LA Guy

United States

#4468 May 1, 2013
Good Day wrote:
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my post to this was for the asian sage: the Welsh & Irish :) and other Europeans, have had the market on inventions, capitalism, and overall success in every realm, basically have kicked asian a__.
True, Hun ... but our pop Western culture appears hooked on the Asian Sage stuff
Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4469 May 1, 2013
LG Interesting, media people are so transparent.
Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#4470 May 1, 2013
LA Guy wrote:
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True, Hun ... but our pop Western culture appears hooked on the Asian Sage stuff
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thank you, LG so wise ... found this >
asian sage is from ancient cosmology , God supercedes that

http://jmerritt.net/documents/Philosophy/Hist... it up for details ... before God gave us the Bible :)

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