Jodi Arias claims self-defense as murder trial begins

Jan 2, 2013 Full story: KTVK Phoenix 7,233

A defense attorney says an Arizona woman charged with stabbing and shooting her boyfriend to death in 2008 acted in self-defense because he was violent and abusive.

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LA Guy

Harbor City, CA

#1 Jan 5, 2013
Extensive news coverage today of this case, with interviews with Travis' friends and backgound profile on him. I then did some brief some brief web research.

My initial impression as to Travis (deceased) was that he wa playing the Svengali role in his personal and budding professional life. His degrading text messages to Jody and having her wear a T-Shirt claiming her as his property was classic manipulation to break her downb emotionaly.

I'm leaning toward this case being a crime of passiob (manslaughter), not a 1st degree homicide and certainly not a captal case.
LA Guy

Harbor City, CA

#2 Jan 5, 2013
Another segment now on Fox wth Geraldo. Aa interview with one of his buddies, some naive overwieght dufus, who claims he was warning Travis to stay away from Jody, since she was not marriage material and had a hollow look in her eyes. Jody was (is) a unique demure latina beauty, that Travis' cheerleader lame buddies felt intimidated by. Jody was out of their leaque, the girl they could never have, thus in part the animus. Travis went by the nickname Top Dog and surronded himself with unattractive wallflower male buddies. Strange, since Travis was a self confident good looking thirty year old, who was apparently a babe magnet to a degree, although he was playing in a small pond, by LA, Miami or NY standards. BTW, what is a motivational speaker, particularly some 30 year old kid from Utah who was holding court in Phoenix. What was he selling, motivatiinal speaker..LOL

Many demure educated Latina beauties are attracted to handsome (clean cut) white professional young men like Travis. He no doubt pursued her, since he allowed her live with him in his house.

I had not planned to post again today, until I noted he was going by the nickname Top Dog and the Geraldo piece aired.

LA Guy

Harbor City, CA

#4 Jan 6, 2013
Sex Toy, lol...A prosecution witness reportedly testifies that Travis felt he was being used as a Sex Toy, a Human Dildo by the demure Jody..He supposedly tweeted or posted on social media as to Jody using him for his sexual prowess.

More layers being peeled back on Travis' disturbing personality. So far, no dirt on Jody's background. A lovely quiet younglady from rural Northern California, pursuing a career as a photographer. Travis also enhanced his resume as an author, more than likely a vanity self paid publication. His motivational apeaking was within the nexus of him hustling pyramide marketing pre paid legal plans.

I beleived that Jody was a fragile younglady, who came under Travis' overblown abusive manipulative ego. He went under the self proclaimed moniker of Top Dog, which speaks legions. This age old tragedy played out once again on the stage of life.

Many would be surprised to know that multi stab wounds and more are not uncommon in crimes of passion involving lovers. Perhaps a low level manslaughter plea would be appropriate.

I recently read where Travis was raised under dire conditions with drug addicted parents in Riverside, Cal...He was no doubt basicaly a good man who had come a long way and was grounded in his Mormon faith, but nonetheless pursued self gratifying pleasure in his abusive dominant role playing with fragile Jody.
CRASSUS

Green Bay, WI

#5 Jan 7, 2013
Jesus-H-christ wrote:
She won the Christmas Carol contest at the county jail, go the entire cell block a turkey dinner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =TVCr8CQI1XwXX
She also won the "space between your fake teets contest." There is a 8 inch gap between nips.
CRASSUS

Green Bay, WI

#6 Jan 7, 2013
LA Guy wrote:
Sex Toy, lol...A prosecution witness reportedly testifies that Travis felt he was being used as a Sex Toy, a Human Dildo by the demure Jody..He supposedly tweeted or posted on social media as to Jody using him for his sexual prowess.
More layers being peeled back on Travis' disturbing personality. So far, no dirt on Jody's background. A lovely quiet younglady from rural Northern California, pursuing a career as a photographer. Travis also enhanced his resume as an author, more than likely a vanity self paid publication. His motivational apeaking was within the nexus of him hustling pyramide marketing pre paid legal plans.
I beleived that Jody was a fragile younglady, who came under Travis' overblown abusive manipulative ego. He went under the self proclaimed moniker of Top Dog, which speaks legions. This age old tragedy played out once again on the stage of life.
Many would be surprised to know that multi stab wounds and more are not uncommon in crimes of passion involving lovers. Perhaps a low level manslaughter plea would be appropriate.
I recently read where Travis was raised under dire conditions with drug addicted parents in Riverside, Cal...He was no doubt basicaly a good man who had come a long way and was grounded in his Mormon faith, but nonetheless pursued self gratifying pleasure in his abusive dominant role playing with fragile Jody.
The opinion of a kweer.
Really

Lexington, KY

#7 Jan 7, 2013
There's really no way to justify the stabbing/shooting death of anyone. I'm sure lots of us could be painted in a bad light when we can no longer defend ourselves.
Her case was destroyed when she first knew nothing and hadn't seen him in months, followed by the intruders ran in on us story, and finally the desparate self defense claim.
There is nothing lovely, quiet, diminutive nor fragile about this woman that can brutally kill and then lie.
Bob England

Green Bay, WI

#8 Jan 7, 2013
Really wrote:
There's really no way to justify the stabbing/shooting death of anyone. I'm sure lots of us could be painted in a bad light when we can no longer defend ourselves.
Her case was destroyed when she first knew nothing and hadn't seen him in months, followed by the intruders ran in on us story, and finally the desparate self defense claim.
There is nothing lovely, quiet, diminutive nor fragile about this woman that can brutally kill and then lie.
Her case was over when she shot him in the face and slit his throat! Idiot.
sarah

Freehold, NJ

#9 Jan 9, 2013
There is nothing lovely about this 33 year old woman. She staged a burglary at her grandparents home, stealing a 25 caliber gun 6 days prior to using it and a blade to brutally destroy a man who had spurned her. She WILL be found guilty and probably be put to death- rightfully so. To LA GUY You are an IDIOT, This pathetic woman is a very dangerous psycho- she needs to be shut away for EVER to protect society, that is if the jury does not vote to euthanize her.
Elise

Honolulu, HI

#10 Jan 9, 2013
LA Guy - "Many demure educated Latina beauties are attracted to handsome (clean cut) white professional young men like Travis."
Maybe, but she wasn't one of them!! Demure and educated?? Wtf? You sound like you are very far from reality yourself! Travis's friend who said she wasn't marriage material and had a hollow look in her eyes was RIGHT! So, I'm not quite sure what your problem is with that? You obviously haven't had much luck with women yourself because if you had, you would know a psycho when you see one! Or hear one! And honestly, when I reread all your posts about Travis, you sound jealous. Get over it! As an attractive woman, I can tell you most men would use a woman for sex if she lets him. We don't go around slashing their throats afterwards....you learn and move on!
Mari

Miami, FL

#11 Jan 10, 2013
I agree with LA Guy. This is a crime of passion and though Travis was a great guy in the eyes of most because of his accomplishments, he was not a SAINT and he really was using this woman. He used her, had sex with her, showed her off and then, she is not good enough for him and not marriage material. She SNAPPED and there is NO EXCUSE for what she did. He deserved something for his treatment of her but it was not to be killed. She is obvioiusly not right in the head. As fas as premeditation, I don't think so. This was too sloppy. This was a crime of passion by a woman who snapped. Elise is also right, she should have "learned and moved on" after letting herself be used by Travis, BUT, that is what a STABLE person could do and she was obviously not stable in her mind.
LA Guy

Harbor City, CA

#12 Jan 10, 2013
Mari wrote:
I agree with LA Guy. This is a crime of passion and though Travis was a great guy in the eyes of most because of his accomplishments, he was not a SAINT and he really was using this woman. He used her, had sex with her, showed her off and then, she is not good enough for him and not marriage material. She SNAPPED and there is NO EXCUSE for what she did. He deserved something for his treatment of her but it was not to be killed. She is obvioiusly not right in the head. As fas as premeditation, I don't think so. This was too sloppy. This was a crime of passion by a woman who snapped. Elise is also right, she should have "learned and moved on" after letting herself be used by Travis, BUT, that is what a STABLE person could do and she was obviously not stable in her mind.
Well said, in simple terms she did snap. They were both caught up in a highly sexually fueled vortex, with elements of BDSM. A dangerous erotic game, with Travis as the Dom, who degraded her and broke her down emotionaly. He said or did something while in the shower, which finaly pushed her into a blurred rage. She loved Travis too much. This is a crime of passion and is traditionaly charged in most jurisdictions as manslaughter. Latina women are prone to lash out at continued abuse, much more so than other races.

FYI - I'm a handsome successfull white male in LA, who is aware of the dynamics in cases like this one. I have also dated women who look like Jody and who had the same demeanor on the surface.
LA Guy

Harbor City, CA

#13 Jan 10, 2013
Elise wrote:
LA Guy - "Many demure educated Latina beauties are attracted to handsome (clean cut) white professional young men like Travis."
Maybe, but she wasn't one of them!! Demure and educated?? Wtf? You sound like you are very far from reality yourself! Travis's friend who said she wasn't marriage material and had a hollow look in her eyes was RIGHT! So, I'm not quite sure what your problem is with that? You obviously haven't had much luck with women yourself because if you had, you would know a psycho when you see one! Or hear one! And honestly, when I reread all your posts about Travis, you sound jealous. Get over it! As an attractive woman, I can tell you most men would use a woman for sex if she lets him. We don't go around slashing their throats afterwards....you learn and move on!
I understand your reaction and point of view in this matter. Those remarks of her having a hollow look in her eye are certainly something that most men do not agree with, with the exception of his naive nice guy Mormon buddies. Jody was the girl none of them could have, with the exception of handsome and charming Travis, who they envied. Jody is a doe eyed demure beauty. Even her detractors like Nancy Grace and others, mention that the camera's love her. Even Dr Drew is smitten by her looks, if one reads through his game.

Question - Do you truly feel that this is a first degree death penalty case. Keep in mind that manslaughter is still a homicide, but classified under a crime of passion, with more lenient sentences.
sarah

Freehold, NJ

#14 Jan 11, 2013
This savage killer stalked her victim for a very long time- she staged a burglary at her grandparents home stealing ONE of the weapons she would use to destroy her victim- she drove 90 miles away to rent a vehicle- she turned her license plate upside down and removed the other one- This is no crime of passion- EVERYTHING was planned in advance because this woman was REJECTED and SPURNED.She was the aggressor sexually teaching her victim the use of KY and rectal sex- hardly the one being used.Ultimately the jury will decide what to do with this SAVAGE KILLER.To LA GUY- why are you ragging on the victim and his friends? contrary to your assertions that the killer was desired by all the victims friends and they could not get her- is ludicrous. You may desire hair dye and breast implants and strange scary behavior in woman but these folks certainly did not.Any man who keeps trolling a thread flapping his gums about what a good looking guy he is-no doubt ,in reality is small and inadequate.You think the camera loves this savage killer?Just think how that NEEDLE is going to love her-
LA Guy

Harbor City, CA

#15 Jan 11, 2013
sarah wrote:
This savage killer stalked her victim for a very long time- she staged a burglary at her grandparents home stealing ONE of the weapons she would use to destroy her victim- she drove 90 miles away to rent a vehicle- she turned her license plate upside down and removed the other one- This is no crime of passion- EVERYTHING was planned in advance because this woman was REJECTED and SPURNED.She was the aggressor sexually teaching her victim the use of KY and rectal sex- hardly the one being used.Ultimately the jury will decide what to do with this SAVAGE KILLER.To LA GUY- why are you ragging on the victim and his friends? contrary to your assertions that the killer was desired by all the victims friends and they could not get her- is ludicrous. You may desire hair dye and breast implants and strange scary behavior in woman but these folks certainly did not.Any man who keeps trolling a thread flapping his gums about what a good looking guy he is-no doubt ,in reality is small and inadequate.You think the camera loves this savage killer?Just think how that NEEDLE is going to love her-
FYI - Nancy Grace and Dr Drew Pinsky were the first to bring up her demure beauty and continue to mention that the camera loves her. Where did you get your info about Jody initiating anal and k-y, lol, this is BS... Keep in mind that Travis went by the moniker of Top Dog and claimed her as his property (T-
shirt) Travis was the Dom and turned her into his submissive sex pet (slave)..he scrambled her brain, is what happen

I only mentioned that I was a good looking white guy, clean cut in fact and professional, to establish a context in my understanding of Jody and Travis and what I believed occurred. I have atracted women of Jody's look and demeanor. I could have handled her and nothing bad would have happen. Travis was basically a good guy, but was conflicted and on guilt trip and thus became bent on degrading and demonizing Jody, the girl who truly loved him. Love can turn to rage. This is an age old tragedy which continues to be played out on the stage of life.

LA Guy

Harbor City, CA

#16 Jan 11, 2013
If this had occured in Los Angeles she would have been charged with voluntary Manslaughter, not 1st degree murder, and certainy not a death penalty case. Jody would be facing less than ten year imprisonment.

The mere fact that abused women arm themselves in advance does not establish premeditation. It is also common in crimes of passion, for assailants to lash out, inflicting multiple wounds. Then they turn into elaboartate deception to avoid arrest.
Elise

Honolulu, HI

#17 Jan 12, 2013
First, she's pretty but I think words like "gorgeous" and "beauty" are really being thrown around casually. She isn't THAT good-looking! Anyway, this is absolutely first degree murder! She stalked him and went there with the intent to kill! She stole a gun, took the phone battery out of her phone, rented a car, and lied about where she was going. Afterward, she spent a prearranged week in Utah with another man so she would be off the radar. She didn't snap. After the murder, she even baited people to talk about the gory details so she cold bask in her success before she knew she would be caught. She let this build up over time. It was a vengeful killing. He had hurt her ego because he didn't think she was good enough and didn't want her for anything other than ass. She also couldn't deal with the jealousy of knowing there were other girls. The trip that was coming up the following week to Cancun with another woman made her see red and she wanted him dead, period! That's a little overboard on the emotions if you ask me! I'm a bit surprised at the comments that sound like "Oh well, he was using her, so that's what he gets!" Really people?? They broke up but she was the one still offering up sex. So as a man, he was still taking it!! If you're surprised, maybe you don't know any men!?! It's a game girls sometimes play when they are dumped by a guy they really liked. They know men are weak when it comes to having sex and they just want something to hold onto them. They just can't completely let go. Attractive, smart, manipulative women can get any man, any time, any where! I'm sure women who do not fit these profiles, would disagree, but it's the truth. But, together with mental and emotional instability, and it becomes a deadly combination. I think he had made it very clear that she was nothing more than a booty call. Having sex with him before she killed him was also just part of her power trip. She is the definition of "psycho" and should make all men everywhere very scared!!
sarah

Freehold, NJ

#18 Jan 12, 2013
La Guy-Something is seriously wrong with you.Every post you put on here you are turning it toward you- This is a death penalty murder trial about Jodi Arias slaughtering Travis Alexander- This is NOT ABOUT YOU! You probably don't even realise how sick it is to say,'A guy like ME could have handled her and nothing bad would have happened"- is your life so absolutly empty that you fixate on a depraved murderer because you like her looks?Sick. This woman is a very cunning dangerous person. After seeing what she did to her victim she has not one shred of beauty to her- at all. She would make Jack the Ripper proud.Any normal man- after seeing what she did to a person- would not want to touch her with a 10 foot pole.Or think about her in an intimate way-!yikes how creepy! She was NEVER Travis Alexanders property- NEVER, he wanted her COMPLETELY out of his life, he ended even the "friends with benefits' thing and this TOTAL rejection resulted in this psycho planning a very vile murder of which I know the jury will either euthanize her or lock this savage monster away forever. One of the pics she took prior to her slaughter of Travis was of the KY and how she taught her victim rectal sex.How did you miss this detail?Don't worry, the first book to come out about this horrific murder is called Picture Perfect- it will be out after the jury chooses how to dispose of this vile woman-
LA Guy

Harbor City, CA

#19 Jan 12, 2013
Elise wrote:
First, she's pretty but I think words like "gorgeous" and "beauty" are really being thrown around casually. She isn't THAT good-looking! Anyway, this is absolutely first degree murder! She stalked him and went there with the intent to kill! She stole a gun, took the phone battery out of her phone, rented a car, and lied about where she was going. Afterward, she spent a prearranged week in Utah with another man so she would be off the radar. She didn't snap. After the murder, she even baited people to talk about the gory details so she cold bask in her success before she knew she would be caught. She let this build up over time. It was a vengeful killing. He had hurt her ego because he didn't think she was good enough and didn't want her for anything other than ass. She also couldn't deal with the jealousy of knowing there were other girls. The trip that was coming up the following week to Cancun with another woman made her see red and she wanted him dead, period! That's a little overboard on the emotions if you ask me! I'm a bit surprised at the comments that sound like "Oh well, he was using her, so that's what he gets!" Really people?? They broke up but she was the one still offering up sex. So as a man, he was still taking it!! If you're surprised, maybe you don't know any men!?! It's a game girls sometimes play when they are dumped by a guy they really liked. They know men are weak when it comes to having sex and they just want something to hold onto them. They just can't completely let go. Attractive, smart, manipulative women can get any man, any time, any where! I'm sure women who do not fit these profiles, would disagree, but it's the truth. But, together with mental and emotional instability, and it becomes a deadly combination. I think he had made it very clear that she was nothing more than a booty call. Having sex with him before she killed him was also just part of her power trip. She is the definition of "psycho" and should make all men everywhere very scared!!
You made a good case and I agree with much of it in a generic sense. I'm playing in the big leaque's here in LA, but will refrain from stating my professional and social background. Travis was playing the Svengali Dom, who became bent at first wooing her, even baptizing her (see pic) and indocrinating her into a religion, bringing her into his home as his live in gf, initiating her into a submissive sexual role and ultimately discarding and degrading her. All the while still allowing her access. This guy was a junior Jim Jone's or shades of the renegade Mormon character (Jeffs) doing time in Texas. Also keep in mind that he wad building a retinue of naive devoted followers. This case goes way beyond the generic sourned gf, friend with benefits scenario. Many here repeat the chronology of events, but fail to address Travis' cruel indoctrination and destruction of Jody's mental state.
LA Guy

Harbor City, CA

#20 Jan 12, 2013
sarah wrote:
La Guy-Something is seriously wrong with you.Every post you put on here you are turning it toward you- This is a death penalty murder trial about Jodi Arias slaughtering Travis Alexander- This is NOT ABOUT YOU! You probably don't even realise how sick it is to say,'A guy like ME could have handled her and nothing bad would have happened"- is your life so absolutly empty that you fixate on a depraved murderer because you like her looks?Sick. This woman is a very cunning dangerous person. After seeing what she did to her victim she has not one shred of beauty to her- at all. She would make Jack the Ripper proud.Any normal man- after seeing what she did to a person- would not want to touch her with a 10 foot pole.Or think about her in an intimate way-!yikes how creepy! She was NEVER Travis Alexanders property- NEVER, he wanted her COMPLETELY out of his life, he ended even the "friends with benefits' thing and this TOTAL rejection resulted in this psycho planning a very vile murder of which I know the jury will either euthanize her or lock this savage monster away forever. One of the pics she took prior to her slaughter of Travis was of the KY and how she taught her victim rectal sex.How did you miss this detail?Don't worry, the first book to come out about this horrific murder is called Picture Perfect- it will be out after the jury chooses how to dispose of this vile woman-
That would be a good title "Picture Perfect" .. did you hear that somewhere or did it come from you. Where is that pic, i reviewed most of the galleries .. what did you think of that one of her wearing property T Shirt

FYI - I'm a proponet of the death penalty for the selective few, like Richard Ramirez (nightstalker) on Cal's death row, but I think you know in your heart that this case is not 1st degree murder. Even OJ was offered a manslaughter plea, but we all know that he went to trial with his dream team.
Elise

Honolulu, HI

#21 Jan 13, 2013
First, LA guy, I seriously lol when I read "I'm in the big leagues here in LA"! This is no longer educated banter. Now I just think you're a dumbass trying to feel big over the Internet. So, if you want to go there...what makes you assume I'm not? You're ignorance just showed. I'm in Palm Springs now but born and raised in LA. And if you truly were/are one of the big dogs, then we've probably met. But judging from your posts about this case...I doubt it! Sarah is right about there being something seriously off with you. You will see in the end that she will be convicted and then realize your "opinion" is lacking common sense and your personality could use a little fine tuning also :)

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