lil help

Jackson Center, PA

#1 Sep 12, 2012
Remember when neo-libs like TWTL and myself proclaimed the Arab Spring as a great achievement for Obama and the world????

September 12, 2012
Obama's Arab Spring becomes the Arab Winter
Lee Cary

The murder of Ambassador Stevens prompts a new question to Obama supporters: "How's that Arab Spring thing workin' out for ya?"

The horrific photo of Chris Stevens, who died in service to his country, is the new icon for Obama's naïve Arab Spring mantra.

Back on May 19, 2011, in a speech on the Arab Spring, Obama said:

"That story of self-determination began six months ago in Tunisia. On December 17, a young vendor named Mohammed Bouazizi was devastated when a police officer confiscated his cart. This was not unique. It is the same kind of humiliation that takes place every day in many parts of the world - the relentless tyranny of governments that deny their citizens dignity. Only this time, something different happened. After local officials refused to hear his complaint, this young man who had never been particularly active in politics went to the headquarters of the provincial government, doused himself in fuel, and lit himself on fire.

Sometimes, in the course of history, the actions of ordinary citizens spark movements for change because they speak to a longing for freedom that has built up for years. In America, think of the defiance of those patriots in Boston who refused to pay taxes to a King, or the dignity of Rosa Parks as she sat courageously in her seat. So it was in Tunisia, as that vendor's act of desperation tapped into the frustration felt throughout the country. Hundreds of protesters took to the streets, then thousands. And in the face of batons and sometimes bullets, they refused to go home - day after day, week after week, until a dictator of more than two decades finally left power.

The story of this Revolution, and the ones that followed, should not have come as a surprise. The nations of the Middle East and North Africa won their independence long ago, but in too many places their people did not. In too many countries, power has been concentrated in the hands of the few. In too many countries, a citizen like that young vendor had nowhere to turn - no honest judiciary to hear his case; no independent media to give him voice; no credible political party to represent his views; no free and fair election where he could choose his leader.

This lack of self determination - the chance to make of your life what you will - has applied to the region's economy as well. Yes, some nations are blessed with wealth in oil and gas, and that has led to pockets of prosperity. But in a global economy based on knowledge and innovation, no development strategy can be based solely upon what comes out of the ground. Nor can people reach their potential when you cannot start a business without paying a bribe.

In the face of these challenges, too many leaders in the region tried to direct their people's grievances elsewhere. The West was blamed as the source of all ills, a half century after the end of colonialism. Antagonism toward Israel became the only acceptable outlet for political expression. Divisions of tribe, ethnicity and religious sect were manipulated as a means of holding on to power, or taking it away from somebody else.

lil help

Jackson Center, PA

#2 Sep 12, 2012
But the events of the past six months show us that strategies of repression and diversion won't work anymore. Satellite television and the Internet provide a window into the wider world - a world of astonishing progress in places like India, Indonesia and Brazil. Cell phones and social networks allow young people to connect and organize like never before. A new generation has emerged. And their voices tell us that change cannot be denied.

In Cairo, we heard the voice of the young mother who said, "It's like I can finally breathe fresh air for the first time."

In Sanaa, we heard the students who chanted, "The night must come to an end."

In Benghazi, we heard the engineer who said, "Our words are free now. It's a feeling you can't explain."

In Damascus, we heard the young man who said, "After the first yelling, the first shout, you feel dignity."

Here's the newest addition to his list of events: In Tripoli, we see the limp body of a dead American Ambassador.

In that May, 2011 speech, Obama went on to say,

"That's why, two years ago in Cairo, I began to broaden our engagement based upon mutual interests and mutual respect."

"Mutual respect," he predicted.

When a nation chooses to be governed by incompetent leadership, people die. It's always been that way. It will always be that way. And that's the way it is now, in America.
state street stan

United States

#3 Sep 12, 2012
Don`t forget...Obama is POTUS,Hillary is Secretary Of State& somehow the Media blames Romney for this meltdown.
For a clue when the mob was parading the US Ambassadors Corpse around , it was Hillary who said , that`s our friends taking him to the Hospital.
Our existing government is incapable of running the show .....time for a change.
Dave Crosby

Cleveland, OH

#4 Sep 12, 2012
state street stan wrote:
Don`t forget...Obama is POTUS,Hillary is Secretary Of State& somehow the Media blames Romney for this meltdown.
For a clue when the mob was parading the US Ambassadors Corpse around , it was Hillary who said , that`s our friends taking him to the Hospital.
Our existing government is incapable of running the show .....time for a change.
Hey Stanley, how is business at your massage parlor? Are you still cleaning the ladies up after their sessions?
truth

Erie, PA

#5 Sep 12, 2012
state street stan wrote:
Don`t forget...Obama is POTUS,Hillary is Secretary Of State& somehow the Media blames Romney for this meltdown.
For a clue when the mob was parading the US Ambassadors Corpse around , it was Hillary who said , that`s our friends taking him to the Hospital.
Our existing government is incapable of running the show .....time for a change.
Even the conservatives are blasting Romney. I'm just glad this jerk isn't gonna be president.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/foreign-poli...

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#7 Sep 12, 2012
Hello Fellow Patriots,
As you know by now our Embassies in Cairo, Egypt and Libya have been attacked- Murdering the US Ambassador to Libya, two staff members along with two Marines.
And what is our ever benevolent president going to do about it? No surprise that you guessed! Yes, he is going to be celebrating!!! He will party down with the likes of Jay-Z, Beyoncé and crew, instead of taking care of business!
But to our potus this is just another day to campaign for the dictator position he is striving for.
Is this an example of what is to come? From the man who would give support to the Arab Spring aka muslim brotherhood! Let’s just call it like it is- HIS brotherhood of fellow muslims!!
He has NO Time for an appointment with Netanyahu- too busy with golf and such...OUR allies and he says NO!
Reports say that the embassy was actually ordered to apologize for a poorly made B rated movie! Which we know is a farce! They want you to believe more nonsense! In my humble opinion- They attacked because of the 9/11 anniversary- not some dumb movie!!
A big pat on the back for Palin who said "If the president doesn't have a big stick to carry maybe he ought to grow one!!!! and Kudos to Charles Krauthammer!
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: WE SHOULD HAVE TOLD MOB IN EGYPT TO 'GO TO HELL'
While members of the Obama administration were busy apologizing to Islamists who were climbing our walls in Egypt, tearing down our flag and raising up their own, an outraged Charles Krauthammer warned on Fox News' Special Report that the apology was "an embarrassment" and "a hostage statement." He said it proved the Obama administration is fully trapped by political correctness.
**********
This is a repost from the Constitutional Conservative. It used to be that an embassy was protected. The Islamist s did it while Milquetoast Carter had the helm in '79, and now we have the chickenshit in chief who is apologizing.

If we reelect this dude for Obama pt II, these Islamist's will be over here outside the White House in another year or so. Whatever he doesn't hand over to the Muslim Brotherhood, he'll give to the Russkies.

Good luck my fellow Americans - Choose wisely.

Storm out
Brian Eno

Edinboro, PA

#9 Sep 12, 2012
Islam is the one of the most dynamic and vibrant cultures on earth today, look at the incredibly modernist architecture of Dubai and Saudi Arabia, look at the fertile Muslim neighborhoods of Michigan and Texas, the high standard of living and low crime rate in these places...the Arab Spring surprised the ignorant with its strong aura of community, but Muslims from all the world gather every year in Mecca to praise God and converse to him around the mysterious and monolithic Kabba - there is simply nothing like it on earth.

The average practicing Muslim is a fascinating individual, you cannot contaminate him with notions of depravity or treachery, because these things are apart from God, and the Muslim man cannot imagine anything spereated from God himself .
anna

United States

#10 Sep 12, 2012
Brian Eno wrote:
Islam is the one of the most dynamic and vibrant cultures on earth today, look at the incredibly modernist architecture of Dubai and Saudi Arabia, look at the fertile Muslim neighborhoods of Michigan and Texas, the high standard of living and low crime rate in these places...the Arab Spring surprised the ignorant with its strong aura of community, but Muslims from all the world gather every year in Mecca to praise God and converse to him around the mysterious and monolithic Kabba - there is simply nothing like it on earth.
The average practicing Muslim is a fascinating individual, you cannot contaminate him with notions of depravity or treachery, because these things are apart from God, and the Muslim man cannot imagine anything spereated from God himself .
you truly are an evil bastard like all muslims that are fervent believers.go to hell.islam....culture of death....
truth

Erie, PA

#12 Sep 13, 2012
Storm Rider wrote:
Hello Fellow Patriots,
As you know by now our Embassies in Cairo, Egypt and Libya have been attacked- Murdering the US Ambassador to Libya, two staff members along with two Marines.
And what is our ever benevolent president going to do about it? No surprise that you guessed! Yes, he is going to be celebrating!!! He will party down with the likes of Jay-Z, Beyoncé and crew, instead of taking care of business!
But to our potus this is just another day to campaign for the dictator position he is striving for.
Is this an example of what is to come? From the man who would give support to the Arab Spring aka muslim brotherhood! Let’s just call it like it is- HIS brotherhood of fellow muslims!!
He has NO Time for an appointment with Netanyahu- too busy with golf and such...OUR allies and he says NO!
Reports say that the embassy was actually ordered to apologize for a poorly made B rated movie! Which we know is a farce! They want you to believe more nonsense! In my humble opinion- They attacked because of the 9/11 anniversary- not some dumb movie!!
A big pat on the back for Palin who said "If the president doesn't have a big stick to carry maybe he ought to grow one!!!! and Kudos to Charles Krauthammer!
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: WE SHOULD HAVE TOLD MOB IN EGYPT TO 'GO TO HELL'
While members of the Obama administration were busy apologizing to Islamists who were climbing our walls in Egypt, tearing down our flag and raising up their own, an outraged Charles Krauthammer warned on Fox News' Special Report that the apology was "an embarrassment" and "a hostage statement." He said it proved the Obama administration is fully trapped by political correctness.
**********
This is a repost from the Constitutional Conservative. It used to be that an embassy was protected. The Islamist s did it while Milquetoast Carter had the helm in '79, and now we have the chickenshit in chief who is apologizing.
If we reelect this dude for Obama pt II, these Islamist's will be over here outside the White House in another year or so. Whatever he doesn't hand over to the Muslim Brotherhood, he'll give to the Russkies.
Good luck my fellow Americans - Choose wisely.
Storm out How about this one stormy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1 983_Beirut_barracks_bombing

Nothing is worse in the mind of the rightwing then to appear weak. They like tough talk, but seldom deliver safety through it. They are terrible at national security. Ask the Chinese how easy it was to acquire the nuclear arsenal secrets from 2000 to 2008.

Congressional Republicans were falling over themselves to APOLOGIZE to BP executives for the fact that Democrats demanded they come before Congress and answer questions about the disaster. That's right, Republicans apologized to a foreign company because the US government asked a foreign company to be held accountable for the enormous damage they caused to the US economy and environment.

Now, how about some proof where President Obama apoligizes.
truth

Erie, PA

#13 Sep 13, 2012

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#15 Sep 13, 2012
truth wrote:
<quoted text> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barr...
Nothing is worse in the mind of the rightwing then to appear weak. They like tough talk, but seldom deliver safety through it. They are terrible at national security. Ask the Chinese how easy it was to acquire the nuclear arsenal secrets from 2000 to 2008.
Congressional Republicans were falling over themselves to APOLOGIZE to BP executives for the fact that Democrats demanded they come before Congress and answer questions about the disaster. That's right, Republicans apologized to a foreign company because the US government asked a foreign company to be held accountable for the enormous damage they caused to the US economy and environment.
Now, how about some proof where President Obama apoligizes.
You could have just listened to your alphabet news sources. In all your arrogance to bring out 1983 Beirut (BTW - I was there. You?) you neglected to bring up the embassy bombing in Africa in 1998. So whenever you would like to be truthful, c'mon back.

I'm an old military guy, political affiliation rarely matters to me, but the caliber of the man who makes the decision means the world. If you want to commit troops, you need to back them up.

Go preach to your political foes, not me.

storm
Fallen Tree

Greenville, NC

#16 Sep 13, 2012
truth wrote:
<quoted text> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barr...
Nothing is worse in the mind of the rightwing then to appear weak. They like tough talk, but seldom deliver safety through it. They are terrible at national security. Ask the Chinese how easy it was to acquire the nuclear arsenal secrets from 2000 to 2008.
Congressional Republicans were falling over themselves to APOLOGIZE to BP executives for the fact that Democrats demanded they come before Congress and answer questions about the disaster. That's right, Republicans apologized to a foreign company because the US government asked a foreign company to be held accountable for the enormous damage they caused to the US economy and environment.
Now, how about some proof where President Obama apoligizes.
You truly are a piece of shit.
obummer

Erie, PA

#17 Sep 14, 2012
Storm Rider wrote:
<quoted text>
You could have just listened to your alphabet news sources. In all your arrogance to bring out 1983 Beirut (BTW - I was there. You?) you neglected to bring up the embassy bombing in Africa in 1998. So whenever you would like to be truthful, c'mon back.
I'm an old military guy, political affiliation rarely matters to me, but the caliber of the man who makes the decision means the world. If you want to commit troops, you need to back them up.
Go preach to your political foes, not me.
storm
Where was I not being truthful? And if you think that empty suit that wants to be president and will say and do anything to accomplish that, is the right caliber of man, than you are a lost cause and a head case. Political affiliation rarly matters, what democrat have you voted for in the last 20 years. Come on, be truthful.

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