Smoking ban passes in Oregon Senate

Smoking ban passes in Oregon Senate

There are 22 comments on the KATU-TV Portland story from May 23, 2007, titled Smoking ban passes in Oregon Senate. In it, KATU-TV Portland reports that:

“The political favoritism in this bill is more than disappointing”

Lighting up a cigarette in Oregon bars and taverns would be prohibited under a bill that passed the Oregon Senate Tuesday on an 18-12 vote. via KATU-TV Portland

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buddyorliz

North Bend, OR

#1 May 24, 2007
My gosh - sure glad someone can make EVERY choice in this life for me.
:(

(Choice may not be the correct word...)
not you rmama

Sunnyside, WA

#2 May 25, 2007
Finally....
usa-1

Eugene, OR

#3 Jun 2, 2007
IT'S ABOUT TIME SMOKERS DON'T CARE ABOUT THERE HEALTH OR USERS

“Maddeningly Unhelpful”

Since: Jun 07

Hermiston or Portland OR

#4 Jun 12, 2007
That is so frickin ridiculous.. GET OVER THE FACT THAT PEOPLE MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES!! If I want to smoke in a bar, and the bar doesn't care.. then don't sit in the cloud of smoke.. jeez. By banning smoking EVERYWHERE, ticketing people for smoking in public areas (that are outside.. where your poor little lungs aren't being subjected to smoke instead of oxygen..) they're taking away the rights of smokers.. isn't everyone supposed to be equal??? If cigarettes aren't illegal... We can't drink everywhere, but there are establishments specifically created for that purpose.. if you don't want to be subjected to second-hand smoke (which doesn't effect your health unless you are subjected to it consistently over a long period of time).. why can't there still be places that we can smoke in, why does it have to be a general ban, why can't anti-smoking idiots just avoid the places that are gonna be smokey if it bothers them so much!?!?!?!? I mean if smokers don't care about the comfort of others, then you don't give a flying crap about the comfort of smokers.. and as far as I can tell smoking does not automatically label someone as anything other than a smoker, not a bad person, not going to hell, not getting arrested. Get over yourselves.. you've one, smoking is considered "deviant" again (at least in crappy ol' USA). But.. you realize things like this happen in phases.. I hope that in the future it's trendy (and legal) to use/smoke large amounts of meth..... then you'll have something to be upset about.
BOB-

United States

#5 Jun 16, 2007
Ashlee, I dont see what is the matter with this.. Tobacco is worse for you than smoking pot,(other than filtering) and pot is illegal.. Tobacco is only legal because of its long history in the nation, and big dolla's being pay'ed..
Would you smoke tar? do you feel it is an infringement on your rights that you cant inject meth?
youbaba

United States

#6 Jul 6, 2007
buddyorliz wrote:
My gosh - sure glad someone can make EVERY choice in this life for me.
:(
(Choice may not be the correct word...)
Yeah neocommunism is flourishing.
Don't worry it will get worse.
youbaba

United States

#7 Jul 6, 2007
Funny thing is you can choose to kill a baby but you can't choose to smoke,in fact a woman who shot her stomach an hour before her scheduled delivery was not charged with anything because she coulndn't afford to have it killed leagally....An hour later and she would have been charged with murder.It's my body,isn't it????!
buddyorliz

North Bend, OR

#8 Jul 11, 2007
So what in the world can we do?

We vote - If we don't Vote right - the government decides we the people are not smart enough to make our own decisions and throws our choices out the window.
Actually my Only WANT is for our Government to do what the Majority Want - not what the minority want nor what they want...
I guess my belief is the majority want what is right.... That may be wishful thinking, But at least it would be Fair because it is the majority.

* Open your eyes and see BIG BROTHER *
youbaba wrote:
Funny thing is you can choose to kill a baby but you can't choose to smoke,in fact a woman who shot her stomach an hour before her scheduled delivery was not charged with anything because she coulndn't afford to have it killed leagally....An hour later and she would have been charged with murder.It's my body,isn't it????!

Since: Apr 07

United States

#9 Jul 16, 2007
I have an opening in my throat where there use to be a larynx....... Smoking is everyones issue..... Glad to see that people are taking notice.
jimmie james

United States

#10 Jul 30, 2007
as a smoker w/ asthma..i want to thank the people who burn wood heat. for making me have attacks.. when ya cant take a breath.. they do not give a rusty poop. again thanksror the consideration
AgateJack

United States

#11 Jul 30, 2007
Finally! I'll be able to meet my non-smoking friends for a drink or food without leaving with an Asthma attack. Anyone who smokes ought to be bloody thankful one day, that a sensible law went a part of the way in helping smokers quit. It was the second hardest thing I've ever done, to quit smoking. There hasn't been a day that I've wanted a smoke since I quit. I quit in time to likely avoid cancer. I wish the same for every smoker.

I watched as my brother smoked himself to death. His last five years on earth were Hell enough for him. His wife followed him a few years later. She was ill only a year with her lung cancer.

Know who suffers most? The loved ones left behind. Had my only brother stopped smoking the same day I did at age 45, he would probably still be here to enjoy each other's company today.
caa

Juneau, AK

#12 Aug 7, 2007
Ashlee Horning wrote:
That is so frickin ridiculous.. GET OVER THE FACT THAT PEOPLE MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES!! If I want to smoke in a bar, and the bar doesn't care.. then don't sit in the cloud of smoke.. jeez. By banning smoking EVERYWHERE, ticketing people for smoking in public areas (that are outside.. where your poor little lungs aren't being subjected to smoke instead of oxygen..) they're taking away the rights of smokers.. isn't everyone supposed to be equal??? If cigarettes aren't illegal... We can't drink everywhere, but there are establishments specifically created for that purpose.. if you don't want to be subjected to second-hand smoke (which doesn't effect your health unless you are subjected to it consistently over a long period of time).. why can't there still be places that we can smoke in, why does it have to be a general ban, why can't anti-smoking idiots just avoid the places that are gonna be smokey if it bothers them so much!?!?!?!? I mean if smokers don't care about the comfort of others, then you don't give a flying crap about the comfort of smokers.. and as far as I can tell smoking does not automatically label someone as anything other than a smoker, not a bad person, not going to hell, not getting arrested. Get over yourselves.. you've one, smoking is considered "deviant" again (at least in crappy ol' USA). But.. you realize things like this happen in phases.. I hope that in the future it's trendy (and legal) to use/smoke large amounts of meth..... then you'll have something to be upset about.
what about my rights to kill people if i feel like it, or rape kids if i feel like it? the point is that your choice to smoke should not IMPACT OTHERS NEGATIVELY.....that is why you are only permitted from smoking in a place where your choice would have the potential to hurt others....just like you would be prohibited from shooting a gun in a bar, so goes the same with smoking... this isnt someone "trampling on your god given rights", please get off yourself and be realistic.
shelly

Lutherville Timonium, MD

#13 Aug 24, 2007
"what about my rights to kill people if i feel like it, or rape kids if i feel like it? the point is that your choice to smoke should not IMPACT OTHERS NEGATIVELY.....that is why you are only permitted from smoking in a place where your choice would have the potential to hurt others....just like you would be prohibited from shooting a gun in a bar, so goes the same with smoking... this isnt someone "trampling on your god given rights", please get off yourself and be realistic.
"
well pools cause drownings, cars can have accidents and kill lots of people so why don't we outlaw pools and cars too? oh and nonsmokers who still drink can leave bars hammered and run over a pedestrian, we should outlaw alcohol (again), alcohol can also give you liver disease, kill brain cells along with being an accelerant for the development of cancer so if you can stand being in a bar with smoke around you and yet you consume alcohol, you should really reevaluate your health choices. propaganda wants you to believe that second hand smoke can kill you and get your lungs renew themselves every 6 hours so unless you are inhaling pure second hand smoke for 24 hours a day for years there won't be any long term affects on your health. face it.
Likes to Breathe

Lake Oswego, OR

#14 Sep 3, 2007
You really should not look at this as the government making rules, but rather democracy in action. As a member of the estimated 80% majority (non smoker)I am sick and tired of going to a bar/club/tavern and coming out with a sore thought, watery eyes and clothes that smell like crap. Why should the overwhelming majority cater to the 20% that choose to kill themselves. If the state choose not to do the right thing again, this issue would have been taken to the voters and estimates show that it would have passed by a large margin. So smoker come to the realization it's not the "man telling you what you can do" but rather 8 out 10 of you fellow citizens.

“smoking bans are unamerica!”

Since: Jul 07

rice lake wisconsin

#15 Sep 4, 2007
You already do support rape of us smokers.Look at that poor women who was a bartender at a pueblo colorado bar and had to go outside because of the smoking bans and got RAPED!She would not have been raped had she not have had to smoke out in a dark corner somewhere,where someone who's intention was not to be friendly and ask her out on a date was their wanting for her,(more then likely an anti smoker.)You people feel as if you can come in and make all the damn rules,what about the business owners right to choose smoking nonsmoking or both with ventilation systems and a enclosed room set up?No,you won't have that,you won't have seperate
bussiness on for smokers only and one for non smokers only thats what makes me believe that is a control issue NOT HEALTH RELATED AT ALL AS YOU ALL SAY IT IS.
Dad

United States

#16 Sep 22, 2007
If people can't make proper decisions in life then you'll have someone else make them for you rather you like the outcome or not. Go enjoy your cancer sticks just not around me.
Liz

Coos Bay, OR

#17 Feb 2, 2009
youbaba wrote:
Funny thing is you can choose to kill a baby but you can't choose to smoke,in fact a woman who shot her stomach an hour before her scheduled delivery was not charged with anything because she coulndn't afford to have it killed leagally....An hour later and she would have been charged with murder.It's my body,isn't it????!
It's your body but the government controls it and your offspring.....
Liz

Coos Bay, OR

#18 Feb 2, 2009
Likes to Breathe wrote:
You really should not look at this as the government making rules, but rather democracy in action. As a member of the estimated 80% majority (non smoker)I am sick and tired of going to a bar/club/tavern and coming out with a sore thought, watery eyes and clothes that smell like crap. Why should the overwhelming majority cater to the 20% that choose to kill themselves. If the state choose not to do the right thing again, this issue would have been taken to the voters and estimates show that it would have passed by a large margin. So smoker come to the realization it's not the "man telling you what you can do" but rather 8 out 10 of you fellow citizens.
I'm not so sure about that - but reguardless
If you are correct in it being so stupid for me to smoke (which I am not arguing with you about, I know I am addicted) What I am wondering about is Why you are in a place that - in your words "going to a bar/club/tavern and coming out with a sore thought, watery eyes and clothes that smell like crap" Didn't you have a choice there?
Sorry for you bad luck.
-Hope it is never illigal for a guy named Joe to have to.....
TheMom

Vancouver, WA

#19 Feb 14, 2009
buddyorliz wrote: "My gosh - sure glad someone can make EVERY choice in this life for me.
:(

(Choice may not be the correct word...)"

Buddy,(and Liz) if you can figure out how to get your cigarette smoke into your lungs without it invading my breathing space, go for it. Smokers complain about infringement of their rights but they don't seem to give consideration to the fact that their smoke getting into the surrounding area creates an infringement on the rights of non-smokers to, say, go to a bar/lounge for a drink or music or to a casino for a little gambling. Your smoke dictates what others can/cannot do but you don't want anyone/anything dictating where you can smoke?
Rory

Portland, OR

#20 Feb 15, 2009
That measure is so wrong on so many counts, not the least of which is the pursuit of my happiness, but i guess more non smokers voted for the folks that raise cig taxes for their pet projects, because oregon health plan wont see it, it will line some pockets administratively in salaries and awards. If your not prepared to stand up for free will, there will come a day when your favorite things will be equally banned, beginning with alcohol of any kind, than perfumes and than round it out with sweat shop made clothing over american made, now you can complain to the hills that those things arent fair, but in all fairness who're you to say about my cigs?? another thing is simply this, without the tobacco crop this country wouldnt be this country !! put that in your pipe and smoke it

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