Our liquid gold - Ruidoso News

Our liquid gold - Ruidoso News

There are 37 comments on the Ruidoso News story from May 17, 2011, titled Our liquid gold - Ruidoso News. In it, Ruidoso News reports that:

Ruidoso officials must face the reality of water supply limitations, pass the necessary rules to enforce conservation and set up contingency plans for emergencies, says a former village manager.

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name

Ruidoso, NM

#21 May 19, 2011
Researcher wrote:
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My information indicates that Rainmakers water table comes from the Hondo Basin. How can that be the same? Most of these water rights have been privately owned for generations.........Not to mention that the Rainmaker development is at least 12 miles from Village limits and at a much higher elevation!
The Hondo watershed is a heck of a lot bigger than 12 miles. And water moves down hill.

http://upperhondowatershed.org/

Their owning water rights is nothing special or unique in this state:

http://www.blm.gov/nstc/WaterLaws/newmexico.h...

And it doesn't alter the fact that they're using enormous amounts of that limited, precious resource to water grass so people can chase a little white ball around.

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#22 May 21, 2011
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The Hondo watershed is a heck of a lot bigger than 12 miles. And water moves down hill.
http://upperhondowatershed.org/
Their owning water rights is nothing special or unique in this state:
http://www.blm.gov/nstc/WaterLaws/newmexico.h...
And it doesn't alter the fact that they're using enormous amounts of that limited, precious resource to water grass so people can chase a little white ball around.
I suggest that you read the posting again. It was stated that Rainmakers was at least 12 miles from VILLAGE LIMITS not that the Hondo watershed was any size. Basically stating that Rainmakers or it's residents are NOT utilizing Village water resources. The state does not allow them to use potable water for the golf course. So they dug their own well, specifically for the golf course. They were told this by the PRC before approving the water utility issues.

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Ruidoso, NM

#23 May 21, 2011
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I suggest that you read the posting again. It was stated that Rainmakers was at least 12 miles from VILLAGE LIMITS not that the Hondo watershed was any size. Basically stating that Rainmakers or it's residents are NOT utilizing Village water resources. The state does not allow them to use potable water for the golf course. So they dug their own well, specifically for the golf course. They were told this by the PRC before approving the water utility issues.
You forgot the part after you wrote that their water comes from the Hondo watershed when you said "how can that be the same?" Well, I showed you. If your point is that rainmakers is outside village limits, I agree with you. If your point is that they have a private well, I agree with you. If your point is that their using tens of thousands of gallons of water so people can play a game magically has no impact on anyone else or on the area water table, I disagree. If your point is that rainmakers has the only private well in the area, I disagree. Rainmaker's doesn't exist in a vacuum where the things they do have no impact on anyone else.
I'm not disputing that they have done everything legally, gotten all the necessary approvals, crossed all the t's and dotted all the i's. I just think it's extremely wasteful and not particularly socially responsible. Do you work for them or are you a realtor?

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#24 May 21, 2011
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. While I don't play golf, nor do I work for them and heaven forbid that i would be a realtor!
My point is, was, and will be, that they do not use the water for their golf course as to deprive Ruidoso residents of theirs.
Their Utility company provides service to over 500 customers,of which I am one. I believe they are socially responsible since they are "sharing the wealth" at much lower prices than the Village water fees, for many of us, who are their neighbors.

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Hobbs, NM

#25 May 21, 2011
Am I allowed to plant some greenbeans this weekend and water them? Is there a limit on how many baths I can take per day? Can I wash my car in my yard?
I'm confused. Can my kids run through the sprinkler? Can I put up their slip and slide? Can I bathe the dogs outside?
B in sarcastic

United States

#26 May 26, 2011
Donna wrote:
Am I allowed to plant some greenbeans this weekend and water them? Is there a limit on how many baths I can take per day? Can I wash my car in my yard?
I'm confused. Can my kids run through the sprinkler? Can I put up their slip and slide? Can I bathe the dogs outside?
If you go by how "name" and "cha cha diva" think. Maybe those questions should be placed to the owners of the golf courses they so resent being there. Then contact your city manager and governing body.
From what I can gather, don't plant anything, you're probably limited to one bath a week (with the dog) sponge bath your car, take the kids with their slip and slide to Hubbard's golf course(maybe the dog too) and let them run through the sprinklers there. Since you are paying extra taxes SURLY they wouldn't deny your kids a little fun!
Doso res

Alamogordo, NM

#27 May 26, 2011
Donna wrote:
Am I allowed to plant some greenbeans this weekend and water them? Is there a limit on how many baths I can take per day? Can I wash my car in my yard?
I'm confused. Can my kids run through the sprinkler? Can I put up their slip and slide? Can I bathe the dogs outside?
No
Great idea

Alamogordo, NM

#28 May 26, 2011
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Still I would start with things like grease traps, too many golf courses, ineffecient management, ineffecient planning, and overgrowth. The trees grow naturally. Arent you as concerned with the fact that there are too many people here for the available water supply? Look at Prescott, Arizona. It used to be a nice town in the mountains vistors flocked too and now it's strip mall, walmart, mcdonalds everywhere. It's disgusting. The chamber of commerce should serve the visitors and keep this town a visitors town and not be licking realtor booty. The realtors are the problem. There are too many of them. We need less year round residents and more visitors.
If they went through and thinned the forest correctly, ie yanked down unhealthy trees- that would be great. But they just point and plow. That's unhealthy. And the trees roots still draw water. So all of these cut off trees still take SOME water away.
You're correct. The problem is in the number of people who are here year-round. Maybe we should thin the heard because trees are what's most important in this world. YOU IDIOT!!!!you should be the first to go! The problem is in the fact that there is no water from nature. Nothing will change that except nature. Use less water! Now how easy is that solution!
Ed in NM

Norman, OK

#29 May 26, 2011
This is a discussion going on nationwide. Reality begins when we understand we are already paying for water in one form or another. Fire, crop and livestock loss where drough exists, and flood damages where excess water exist. I believe the estimate this year is close to 4 billion to date.

Why not spend 2 billion on a national water grid to manage excess when and where it occurs, and building code mandates on rain and snow melt harvesting? Maybe we can save $2 billion in the process and end all the local community fighting. Just a thought.
harsh reality of NM

Hobbs, NM

#30 May 26, 2011
Ask yourself this--how much is your house worth?
WITHOUT WATER?

That's right.

We do not have sustainable water for this area.

The end.

A scientific fact.
Jake

Ruidoso, NM

#31 May 27, 2011
Agreed. The Southwest is in critical condition. Recently was reading about Lake Mead (southwest of Las Vegas, NV.) reached an all time low of 1081 ft. above sea level. That is about 38% of its capacity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mead
ghost of a town

United States

#32 May 27, 2011
harsh reality of NM wrote:
Ask yourself this--how much is your house worth?
WITHOUT WATER?
That's right.
We do not have sustainable water for this area.
The end.
A scientific fact.
tell that to capitan who is just giving it away. they have tons according to the mayor.
heartbroke

Albuquerque, NM

#33 May 15, 2012
Now they are building a billion dollar ghost town outside of Hobbs...where will that water come from? Do you really rhink they are building this fiasco with "private" money in order to test an automatic traffic system? Check out pegasusglobalholdings.com and see their link to the war machine. They are also involved in a spaceport plan at White Sands. I smell weapons testing, maybe, nuetron bombs, that destroy life and not buildings? Remember Jimmy Carter opposed them? Where are all the 60's , 0,s protestors now? Margaritaville?
Smoke and Mirrros

Ruidoso, NM

#34 May 15, 2012
WATER MAIN BREAK at 1015 AM today 5-15-2-12. HUGE. HIGH SCHOOL BEING SHUT DOWN. FILL YOUR BATH TUBS. More problems imminent.
outsider

Phoenix, AZ

#35 May 15, 2012
heartbroke wrote:
Now they are building a billion dollar ghost town outside of Hobbs...where will that water come from? Do you really rhink they are building this fiasco with "private" money in order to test an automatic traffic system? Check out pegasusglobalholdings.com and see their link to the war machine. They are also involved in a spaceport plan at White Sands. I smell weapons testing, maybe, nuetron bombs, that destroy life and not buildings? Remember Jimmy Carter opposed them? Where are all the 60's , 0,s protestors now? Margaritaville?
Where are all of the protesters??? Really have you been watching fox news, cause fox will not talk about Occupy America movement...the 99 per-centers against the 1 per-centers, or fox will mislead the facts against the Occupy protesters. You can protest with you wallet which is the most efficient means or contact corporations directly they will listen to you. Remember what happened to beck of rush when individuals called corps. But most importantly become informed and VOTE.
outsider

Phoenix, AZ

#36 May 15, 2012
Sorry that's glen beck or rush limpball in case the "of" throws anyone off.
Rate Payer

Biloxi, MS

#37 May 15, 2012
Smoke and Mirrros wrote:
WATER MAIN BREAK at 1015 AM today 5-15-2-12. HUGE. HIGH SCHOOL BEING SHUT DOWN. FILL YOUR BATH TUBS. More problems imminent.
must be test day ha ha

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