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Students suffer downside of lost Fridays - Hawaii News

There are 73 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Nov 12, 2009, titled Students suffer downside of lost Fridays - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Some public high school students are noticing the negative effects of Furlough Fridays.

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Dreamer

Kihei, HI

#42 Nov 12, 2009
Students as well as teachers have become complacent.
(I'd say it's a good ploy, when next in court.)

Noticed that students don't care as much about their education and a lot of teachers are not assigning homework to make up for lost class time. "They're getting lazy on both sides: The students don't want to do the work, and teachers don't want to give out the work,"
(another good ploy, wouldn't you say?! This should go over well when next in in court.)

"Everybody is suffering overall.
(I'm sure they are!?)

"We need to be in the classroom as much as possible," "Our education needs to be the best that it can be."
(No denying, but with what has been accessed from the council. How well will that go over when next in court.
Carole

United States

#43 Nov 12, 2009
John wrote:
Our future, our children, and we are letting them down. This is really a new low, just to save money. Native born President Obama talks a pro education game, and he probably does not even know whats going on here, or does not even care. Where is some stimulus money for this emergency?
John, headline from today's Star Bulletin:

U.S. Education Secretary says Hawaii hurt chances for fed money with 'mind-boggling' furloughs

By Gregg K. Kakesako
POSTED: 10:01 a.m. HST, Nov 12, 2009

Education Secretary Arne Duncan said today that because of Furlough Fridays Hawaii faces "a heck of a challenge" in qualifying for $20 million to $75 million in federal funds under the Obama administration's $4 billion "Race to the Top" grant program which will be awarded next year.

In a news tele-conference this morning Duncan said he is "highly aware" of the actions taken by Hawaii to close island classrooms 17 days this academic year and an equal amount next year because dropping tax revenues have contributed to an estimated $1 billion shortfall in Hawaii's overall state budget....He described the actions as "mind-boggling."

Duncan said state education leaders will have to make "a compelling case" to qualify for the federal education dollars.

He questioned whether eliminating so much instruction time in Hawaii meets one of the program's goals -- "raising the bar for all children."

Last month, Duncan wrote that Hawaii had taken "a step in the wrong direction."

"All states are under financial pressure, but none are cutting this much learning time from their school year," Mr. Duncan wrote. "It's inconceivable to me that this is the best solution for Hawaii."

Duncan pointed out that Hawaii had already received $105 million in aid from a $40 billion fund in the economic-stimulus plan designed to prop up states' education budgets....

What has Hawaii done with the 105 million that has ALREADY been given to Hawaii??!!
alice

United States

#44 Nov 12, 2009
Duncan is right..Lingle could not care less about our children
Genero

Honolulu, HI

#45 Nov 12, 2009
alice wrote:
Real teachers would have stayed on the job as a statement of their deication. This bunch of losers are a disgrace with their low test scores and bloated salaries.
The hsta president actually said something like the teachers would not be interested in renegotiating if it meant more work or less pay. I used to feel bad for teachers who were doing good work and underpaid, now I just think they are just doing it for themselves.
CaptCrunch

Denver, CO

#46 Nov 12, 2009
alice wrote:
the students should just report to prison on fridayd since they will end up there eventually
Best idea I've heard so far!!!! I've said this before "once again the keiki looses out again"! Shame on U Hawaii! Especially Ahyatola Lingle!!!
Teachers Pet

San Diego, CA

#47 Nov 12, 2009
Fire em all wrote:
It was Ronald Reagan who FIRED EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS who went on strike.
As applied here, the HSTA unionized teachers should be FIRED, all 81% of those who colluded on this short-changing of the future leaders of their basic education, from Hawaii.
This article only highlights one aspect of the cold blooded, callously indifferent treatment of the public school students in general and the special education students in particular.
Shame on you, Hawaii.
Especially you smug, HSTA teachers who took our tax money to pay for your spoiled brat to go to private school, but then turned around and encouraged 33% of your public school student to fail.
To me, if a student fails, THE TEACHER SHOULD BE FIRED FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN.
Go Broke Hawaii. Why should we tax payers give a F about you politicians, and your silly little tax problem, when the monies we pay in taxes do not go to the priorities, but instead into the pockets and retirement accounts of a bunch of pencil pushing, tuck in cheap aloha shirt, angels flight polyester pant wearing, insensitive nerds and nerdettes?
On a side note, all you foreign import car drivers, need to get out of my way, because you draining our economy too. No more letting you in my lane any more.
Used to be "Go Green, Hawaii."
Now it is "Go Broke, Hawaii. YOU deserve it."
Unions are necessary to protect their members from people like you who seem to want everyone fired for no good reason. If you were in charge of all the firing, they would have a field day with you. Future generations in your family will be filing bankruptcy paying for lawsuits due to your ignorance.
Gustavo

United States

#48 Nov 12, 2009
No one ever learned anything inside a classroom with a teacher using her vocal chords to convey information and new concepts. Enroll your kids in a good online eSchool. The DOE even has one called the Myron Thompson Online eSchool.

Gustavo
Gustavo

United States

#49 Nov 12, 2009
Hawai'i: the stupidest state in the nation.

Gustavo
Gustavo

United States

#50 Nov 12, 2009
No one ever learned anything in a classroom where the teacher uses her vocal chords to convey new information and concepts. SHOW & tell...NOT just tell.

Gustavo
Oahu Portagee

Pearl City, HI

#51 Nov 12, 2009
PUNAHOU VS. PEARL CITY?????????

The amount of "work" that a public school 12th grader does in one week is less than the amount of work done by a Punahou or Iolani 4th grader does in one hour.
Oahu Portagee

Pearl City, HI

#52 Nov 12, 2009
I wen grad Pearl City High wit one 1.0 GPA. Get good teechas up their! They wen teech me how fo' reed and right li dat! I one produck of da publick skool sistem li dat! I stay dooing good li dat! I stay one Stevedore li dat! I make big bucks li dat! Da cryteerhea fo be one stevedore is fo play football li dat! If you play football for UH, den garans ballbarans you get in da stevedors li dat!
whatevas

Honolulu, HI

#53 Nov 12, 2009
Has anyone been out on a furlough Friday? Sooooo many parents and kids out shopping and at the beach. If parents REALLY cared about the "loss of education" then why arent they home reading or studying on furlough Fridays?
yeah wrong

Honolulu, HI

#54 Nov 12, 2009
Carole wrote:
What has Hawaii done with the 105 million that has ALREADY been given to Hawaii??!!
ask Gov. Lingle and the leg. apparently they had most of it earmarked to plug holes in the budget and diverted it from the educational system...

i have no idea what made them think they wouldn't get caught or audited. anything coming from the federal gov't comes with lots of strings and lots of monitoring.
massive

Kailua, HI

#55 Nov 12, 2009
alice wrote:
Professional teachers do not abandon the children. Not under any circumstances. This bad bunch whining about their money despite their hideously bad performance turns the stomach.
none have abandoned their students, last I checked teachers still show up for work. Anyway, alice, go find us some professionals to work in the schools, who will stay for longer than 2 years. Bring in the competetion, let the market forces bear down! Oh, wait...most professionals with a masters degree won't put up with the public school environment for $45,000 a year...because THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION ENOUGH!
Janelle

Wahiawa, HI

#56 Nov 12, 2009
whatevas wrote:
Has anyone been out on a furlough Friday? Sooooo many parents and kids out shopping and at the beach. If parents REALLY cared about the "loss of education" then why arent they home reading or studying on furlough Fridays?
If the teachers, administrators and politicians don't give a damn, why should the parents and kids?
Lenny Long

Kailua, HI

#57 Nov 12, 2009
Oahu Portagee wrote:
I wen grad Pearl City High wit one 1.0 GPA. Get good teechas up their! They wen teech me how fo' reed and right li dat! I one produck of da publick skool sistem li dat! I stay dooing good li dat! I stay one Stevedore li dat! I make big bucks li dat! Da cryteerhea fo be one stevedore is fo play football li dat! If you play football for UH, den garans ballbarans you get in da stevedors li dat!
Eh braddah boy, you stay one stevedore only cuz yo faddah and yo uncle got you dat job. Not cuz you wen UH and you da brains of dah family li dat yah.
Myron Who

Kaneohe, HI

#58 Nov 12, 2009
Gustavo wrote:
No one ever learned anything inside a classroom with a teacher using her vocal chords to convey information and new concepts. Enroll your kids in a good online eSchool. The DOE even has one called the Myron Thompson Online eSchool.
Gustavo
Gustavo, you wouldn't happen to be affiliated with this alternative program, would you?
::wink wink:::
Myron Who

Kaneohe, HI

#59 Nov 12, 2009
Janelle wrote:
<quoted text>
If the teachers, administrators and politicians don't give a damn, why should the parents and kids?
If the families and kids don't give a damn, why should the teachers, administrators and politicians?

It starts at home.
Translator

Keauhou, HI

#60 Nov 13, 2009
Myron Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Gustavo, you wouldn't happen to be affiliated with this alternative program, would you?
::wink wink:::
Myron B Thompson Academy, a Hawaii Public Charter School.
Not furloughing.
Also, Hawaii Technological Academy, another on line public charter school, NOT furloughing.

Nothing can tame the DOEBOE/HSTA's grip on Hawaii government. Not Judge Ezra. Not Seitz and Varady. Not even Obama.
Parents and kids: You lose.
TeriYaki

Honolulu, HI

#61 Nov 13, 2009
alice wrote:
<quoted text>true..but the teachers here are just union hands..not professionals at all
Alice if that is your real name which I doubt...SHUTTHEHELL up idiot.

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