Students suffer downside of lost Fridays - Hawaii News

Some public high school students are noticing the negative effects of Furlough Fridays. Full Story
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enufalready

Kihei, HI

#1 Nov 12, 2009
A national embarrassment.
Fire em all

Honolulu, HI

#2 Nov 12, 2009
As the World Celebrates the Fall of the Berlin Wall, we all reminded of that historical event that began with our Republican President Ronald Reagan who standing near the Berlin Wall, admonished Mikael Gorbachev by saying, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this Wall."

It was Ronald Reagan who FIRED EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS who went on strike.

As applied here, the HSTA unionized teachers should be FIRED, all 81% of those who colluded on this short-changing of the future leaders of their basic education, from Hawaii.

This article only highlights one aspect of the cold blooded, callously indifferent treatment of the public school students in general and the special education students in particular.

Shame on you, Hawaii.

Especially you smug, HSTA teachers who took our tax money to pay for your spoiled brat to go to private school, but then turned around and encouraged 33% of your public school student to fail.

To me, if a student fails, THE TEACHER SHOULD BE FIRED FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN.

Go Broke Hawaii. Why should we tax payers give a F about you politicians, and your silly little tax problem, when the monies we pay in taxes do not go to the priorities, but instead into the pockets and retirement accounts of a bunch of pencil pushing, tuck in cheap aloha shirt, angels flight polyester pant wearing, insensitive nerds and nerdettes?

On a side note, all you foreign import car drivers, need to get out of my way, because you draining our economy too. No more letting you in my lane any more.

Used to be "Go Green, Hawaii."

Now it is "Go Broke, Hawaii. YOU deserve it."
MorePorkulous

Royal Oak, MI

#3 Nov 12, 2009
students don't care as much about their education and a lot of teachers are not assigning homework.
Easy solution-home school.
MorePorkulous

Royal Oak, MI

#4 Nov 12, 2009
On a side note, all you foreign import car drivers, need to get out of my way, because you draining our economy too. No more letting you in my lane any more.
My Honda runs just fine and it was built in Ohio.It's now a world economy-what's your point.
New York Times

San Diego, CA

#5 Nov 12, 2009
The reasons for this lie partly in Hawaii's history. Several elite academies here were founded more than a century ago by missionaries, as well as by other settlers or Hawaiian royalty. One such school, Kamehameha, is open only to descendants of Hawaiian natives and is supported by a private trust worth billions. It educates 4,000 children, or nearly 1 of every 50 in Hawaii, most for under $1,400 a year.
Hawaii's heavy reliance on private schools only complicates the task of educating those who are left out, many of them impoverished immigrants from Korea, China and the Philippines living here on Oahu, the state's most populous island. Administrators say it is difficult to extract excellence from a system that parents and politicians, to say nothing of some teachers, treat as a repository of last resort.
Over the summer, federal officials reported that 45 percent of Hawaii's publicly educated fourth graders, and 48 percent of eighth graders, had scored below the basic threshold on a math exam given to a broad sampling of students in almost every state. Across the country, by contrast, the average scoring below that level was about 33 percent.
''Folks inside the system will point out the huge proportion of kids who are creamed off the top,'' said, Hawaii's superintendent of schools.''I'm less concerned about the loss of high scores than I am about the loss of political clout and attention.''
Lani

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Nov 12, 2009
The students interviewed in the story are the nerds who would go to school on Saturday and Sunday if they could. They're brainwashed by socialist teacher ideology. Sadly, they are the future politicians.
Kula Farmer

Kapaa, HI

#7 Nov 12, 2009
The teachers didnt have to take a furlo on fridays, the DOE and teachers union didnt have to do the furlo on fridays! they did it out of sour grapes, what happened to the greater good? now our whole society is going to suffer, it starts with the governor cutting the DOE budget, then the DOE wont trim their fat top side, and now who is paying again, Make the schools a county by county system, reduce the state taxes and place the rule and taxation for schools within the county system, eliminate the DOE. the whole thing would be way different, The DOE is a wasteful beurocracy, and the teachers dont have the students best interest at all, they are typical state workers who dont really give a hoot.
Big John-Hawaii Kai

Kailua Kona, HI

#8 Nov 12, 2009
Is it all really about education, or education lost, OR is it about losing child care services on Fridays? I believe some people are being unfair to the teachers in saying they don't care. You must remember that the DOE/BOE decided on what days would be furlough days, not the teachers or even the governor. The only stress I've witnessed on students is their inability to decide whether to "go to the mall, or to the beach" on Fridays.

If parents are so very concerned about their childs education, why haven't they demanded that their elected representatives dismantle the bloated, mismanaged, and ineffective DOE/BOE?
oof

Honolulu, HI

#9 Nov 12, 2009
Big John-Hawaii Kai wrote:
Is it all really about education, or education lost, OR is it about losing child care services on Fridays? I believe some people are being unfair to the teachers in saying they don't care. You must remember that the DOE/BOE decided on what days would be furlough days, not the teachers or even the governor. The only stress I've witnessed on students is their inability to decide whether to "go to the mall, or to the beach" on Fridays.
If parents are so very concerned about their childs education, why haven't they demanded that their elected representatives dismantle the bloated, mismanaged, and ineffective DOE/BOE?
Excellent post Big J.
The Real Karen

United States

#11 Nov 12, 2009
lostcause wrote:
look- stop the games.
the country and the world knows the children of hawaii are limited
in intelligence by birth.
teach your sub-par children to be racist and give them some money
and an ice pipe -
stop the foolish game. be honest.
close the schools and give them all guns -
let them be themselves.
You bring up a valid point hana, HAWAII!!
Dog Chapman

San Diego, CA

#12 Nov 12, 2009
lostcause wrote:
look- stop the games.
the country and the world knows the children of hawaii are limited
in intelligence by birth.
teach your sub-par children to be racist and give them some money
and an ice pipe -
stop the foolish game. be honest.
close the schools and give them all guns -
let them be themselves.
I don't know what your talking about?
Ridiculous

Hauula, HI

#13 Nov 12, 2009
This is so ridiculous!

A few days of furlough Fridays and

everything is going down the tubes?

School days have not been fully utilized

because most schools do not have

a serious daily syllabus.

Parents can easily make up by assigning

homework.

Teachers can also assign homework for

the Friday missed.
SUCK IT UP

Honolulu, HI

#14 Nov 12, 2009
What furlough? My kids are still learning. How can they not learn? They now bring home triple the homework to do on fridays (which spills over till the weekend. Actually,the teachers make out, they are now ahead of what they need to teach. We are the new teachers.

I know, I know "You should get involved with your kids studies right?" Well I am, suck it up.

alice

Hanalei, HI

#15 Nov 12, 2009
Real teachers would have stayed on the job as a statement of their deication. This bunch of losers are a disgrace with their low test scores and bloated salaries.
John

Honolulu, HI

#16 Nov 12, 2009
Our future, our children, and we are letting them down. This is really a new low, just to save money. Native born President Obama talks a pro education game, and he probably does not even know whats going on here, or does not even care. Where is some stimulus money for this emergency?
alice

Hanalei, HI

#17 Nov 12, 2009
alice wrote:
Real teachers would have stayed on the job as a statement of their deication. This bunch of losers are a disgrace with their low test scores and bloated salaries.
true..but the teachers here are just union hands..not professionals at all
HootOwl

Honolulu, HI

#18 Nov 12, 2009
MorePorkulous wrote:
On a side note, all you foreign import car drivers, need to get out of my way, because you draining our economy too. No more letting you in my lane any more.
My Honda runs just fine and it was built in Ohio.It's now a world economy-what's your point.
Your Honda was actually made in China. Or 90% of its parts were.
It's definitely a Chinese car.
HootOwl

Honolulu, HI

#19 Nov 12, 2009
Ridiculous wrote:
This is so ridiculous!
A few days of furlough Fridays and
everything is going down the tubes?
School days have not been fully utilized
because most schools do not have
a serious daily syllabus.
Parents can easily make up by assigning
homework.
Teachers can also assign homework for
the Friday missed.
Homework does not teach. Homework is just practice.
The reason teachers are 'complacent' about assigning homework, as mentioned in this article, is because they are aware of that fact. They also know that maybe half the class will bring back the homework. There is very little new learning in homework, unless it's set up as independent study and you have exceptionally motivated students with parental support. The majority of teachers know that the support at home is nil.
HootOwl

Honolulu, HI

#20 Nov 12, 2009
MorePorkulous wrote:
students don't care as much about their education and a lot of teachers are not assigning homework.
Easy solution-home school.
Most parents are not qualified to homeschool. What a disaster that would be. You'd have a workforce even more pathetic that what I witness here currently. Cashiers can't give change without a machine telling them how, and hungry people having to drive through the McD's line twice for one order because it's never right the first time. Mechanics who can't fix the car unless a 'special technician' with a computer flies in from the mainland to diagnose the problem. and then share the top-secret repair plan. Imagine what life would be like here WITHOUT the public education? 10 times worse. Guarans.
alice

Kailua Kona, HI

#21 Nov 12, 2009
the students should just report to prison on fridayd since they will end up there eventually

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