HGEA workers agree to cuts - Hawaii News

HGEA workers agree to cuts - Hawaii News

There are 165 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Oct 20, 2009, titled HGEA workers agree to cuts - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

The Hawaii Government Employees Association has overwhelmingly ratified two-year contracts with the state and counties that include 42 days fewer workdays for most of its members.

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geeeee

Hilo, HI

#23 Oct 20, 2009
it's up to UPW to vote no.
DayTripper

Honolulu, HI

#24 Oct 20, 2009
Stand by for the layoffs...
peterprinciple

Honolulu, HI

#25 Oct 20, 2009
local wrote:
If the unions had settled the furloughs back in january, there would have been no layoffs and the furloughs would had been only 18 days or less. Great job Randy Perriera, your leadership just shows how incompetent you are.
RANDY for Governor!!!
what next

Honolulu, HI

#26 Oct 20, 2009
local wrote:
If the unions had settled the furloughs back in january, there would have been no layoffs and the furloughs would had been only 18 days or less. Great job Randy Perriera, your leadership just shows how incompetent you are.
Source?
alice

Honolulu, HI

#27 Oct 20, 2009
.......the conglomerates are responsible for the aggregate of the malfunctions. The prerequisitial aquisitions are detrimental to the reprucussions!!!!
private contractor

Honolulu, HI

#28 Oct 20, 2009
they need to stop paying and getting private contracts of which the state pays out up to 2-3 times more than if they were to pay a civil servant.
these contracts need to be reviewed by someone who is not in the legislature, gov/lt gov office/mayor/ or any other politically connected office - OOPS I guess there is no unbias entity that could provide this service in Hawaii - guess the state will still go broke - someday soon....
hafta be union

Honolulu, HI

#30 Oct 20, 2009
StateTaxPayer wrote:
When do the politicans sacrifice?
..... or the Unions? Paying $600 a year in dues is ridiculous, and although they will take a cut because of wages, they should also reduce their percentage taken from workers.
Furlough Expert

Honolulu, HI

#31 Oct 20, 2009
Bananas come in a variety of sizes and colors when ripe, including yellow, purple, and red. Bananas can be eaten raw though some varieties are generally cooked first. Depending upon cultivar and ripeness, the flesh can vary in taste from starchy to sweet, and texture from firm to mushy. Unripe or green bananas and plantains are used as an ingredient in various dishes, such as in curries and stews, and are the staple starch of many tropical populations. Banana sap is extremely sticky and can be used as a practical adhesive. Sap can be obtained from the pseudostem, from the fruit peelings, or from the fruit flesh.

Most production for local sale is of green cooking bananas and plantains, as ripe dessert bananas are easily damaged while being transported to market. Even when transported only within their country of origin, ripe bananas suffer a high rate of damage and loss.

The commercial dessert cultivars most commonly eaten in temperate countries (species Musa acuminata or the hybrid Musa paradisiaca, a cultigen) are imported in large quantities from the tropics. They are popular in part because, being a non-seasonal crop, they are available fresh year-round. In global commerce, by far the most important of these banana cultivars is 'Cavendish', which accounts for the vast bulk of bananas exported from the tropics. The Cavendish gained popularity in the 1950s after the previously mass produced cultivar, Gros Michel, became commercially unviable due to Panama disease, a fungus which attacks the roots of the banana plant.
WhatsGoingOn

Honolulu, HI

#32 Oct 20, 2009
s dogood wrote:
Lingle is going to keep cutting until she takes the Hawaii economy down.
Instead of supporting Hawaii jobs and helping the Hawaii economy through this tough time, she does just the opposite.
Instead of just raising the Hawaii sales tax 1% to solve this all, she tears away at any stability in jobs. She is then faced with lawsuits and further costs to the State, all leading to a downward spiral in Hawaii's economic confidence.
We will be able to thank Lingle for the looming Hawaii Depression.
You must be a graduate of the Hawaii school system.

The problem we have is there are no sales, the "sales tax" you talk about is the General Excise Tax (GETax) which has stopped coming in.

Raising the GETax 1% will still bring in nothing as there are NO sales. 5.5% of nothing is nothing, the same as 4.5% of nothing is the same: nothing.

If I were you I would vote for HaHaNaBooSa in the next election, you will understand her economics....just plain nuts!

The law suits you talk about are possible from the people like yourself who feel entitled to the taxpayers money.

Now go to work and put in an 8 hour day for a change.
Righty

Honolulu, HI

#33 Oct 20, 2009
Everybody get on the Lingle merry-go-round!!!

round and round!! up and down!!!

Wheeeee!!!!

It aint over yet!
WhatsGoingOn

Honolulu, HI

#34 Oct 20, 2009
alice wrote:
.......the conglomerates are responsible for the aggregate of the malfunctions. The prerequisitial aquisitions are detrimental to the reprucussions!!!!
Please rewrite in English and explain what it has to do with the price of apples!

Congolomerates....a new small African/Arab country
prerequisitial....an advance visitor from outer space
reprucussions.....being advised early before being hit on the head
carnival operator

Honolulu, HI

#35 Oct 20, 2009
Righty wrote:
Everybody get on the Lingle merry-go-round!!!
round and round!! up and down!!!
Wheeeee!!!!
It aint over yet!
can i ride too?
Restraint

Honolulu, HI

#36 Oct 20, 2009
Next year mo worse. Expect firings, mo broken mortgages, shrinking savings, mo bankruptcies, mo depression, no medical insurance, lost retirement plans, lower home prices, less services, mo divorces, mo burglaries and dishonesty, mo funny kine police tickets, reduced retirement pay and disappearing meidcal coverage, mo broken promises, no mo easy bank financings, yada, yada, yada.

You heard what Gov Lingle said. Firings are possible so she's just letting you know before the shock comes. What she's not telling you is they might not be rehired. The next governor better be prepared to be asked whether he/she will return to the bloated bureacracy of the past or keep everything nice and lean.
Jimmy Hoffa

San Diego, CA

#37 Oct 20, 2009
Once again, we see the disgusting spectacle of the people at the top taking care of themselves at the same time they are demanding extraordinary sacrifices from their hourly workers, engineers, administrative and support staff, mid-level managers and others.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#39 Oct 20, 2009
WhatsGoingOn wrote:
<quoted text>
Please rewrite in English and explain what it has to do with the price of apples!
Congolomerates....a new small African/Arab country
prerequisitial....an advance visitor from outer space
reprucussions.....being advised early before being hit on the head
You have a point........because the furloughs have indubidly proliferated our local society. Unequivocally there is unambiguous data which has excogitated the conglomerate erudition of paraphernalia. Notwithstanding, Lingle was insensate at conceiving this envisageing deductive which diacriticaly and conceivably permitted sonorousness perspicacious by undertaking the unions that morphemes the bagatelle posterior kumtux. What a dexterous consummatent and odd consanguineous we are in now!
Doggie

Honolulu, HI

#40 Oct 20, 2009
Einstein wrote:
HGEA members fell into Lingle's trap, actually the settlement is for over a 50% pay cut over a long period of time. Think about it, in the next ten years you will not get back to the pay you are getting now and in ten years the cost of everything will double so actually this agreement calls for more then a 50% pay cut. State workers must be stupid and cannot figure out the actual lost. Well if you can survive a 50% pay cut goody for you but 99.9% of the State workers cannot survive on half their pay. Too late now, Lingle really screwed you guys. When Duke Aiona becomes governor he will call for an additional three days furlough and lay offs. That should wipe out the remaining .01% of State workers. Many will be homeless or begging. You voted for Republicans so suffer the consequences.
When Duke becomes Governor??? What rock have you been living under? Duke is in hiding because he doesn't want to be associated with Lingle. He will never be Governor because Lingle ruined his chances -- because everyone HATES LINGLE!!
Doggie

Honolulu, HI

#41 Oct 20, 2009
fry-dayz wrote:
everyone is expecting that the furloughs will happen on a friday - well, to date, only the DOE (HSTA and select HGEA) have agreed to Friday as their furlough day. The rest of HGEA hasn't been told that gov't will be shut down on Fridays. So what if it's not Friday? You won't be able to vote on which day you'll have off - remember you voted for the 18/24 days - the employers will determine which day you will have off. you should have vote NO to ratify.
It is going to be fridays -- it will mirror the teacher furlough days. duh!!!!
Ridiculous

Honolulu, HI

#42 Oct 20, 2009
I'd like to see the SB staff find out from Paul Brewbaker or Lowell Kalapa on how this new contract will affect our economy. Sure, it will save the state millions, but how can our economy rebound when these employees adjust their lifestyle so spending is kept to only necessities.
The Truth

Honolulu, HI

#43 Oct 20, 2009
Poi wrote:
Funny how the "News" papers and politicians describe this "tremendous sacrifice".
What the article should say is; "State Workers get more days off".
Because that's what this is. It is not a cut in hourly or daily pay. It's an agreement to take some days off and go surfing.
Why do they do it this way in Hawaii? The "News" people at the daily rags won't tell you.
It's because of bumping rules that allow those with higher superiority to bump themselves into lower positions while RETAINING THEIR SAME PAY.
In other words, you losers can whine all you want but the Plantation Asian Democrat monopoly has had the system rigged for 50 years. You can't save money by laying people off if the high paid people are all going to stay on.
What they should have done it cut pay acrooss the board the way the Governor and her cabinet did to set an example. Of course the Governor and her cabinet are not subject to the Union rules of the Plantation Asian immigrant Democrat Party so they can do that.
No pay cut. More days off. Ahhh, life as a union member.
Arigato.
Thanks for showing everyone how incredibly ignorant you really are "Poi".
The furlough days ARE a paycut brainiac! The different jurisdictions of HGEA workers will be taking pay cuts in the form of furloughs in different amounts. For example, Those members who work for the judiciary, executive branch, libraries and DOE are taking a straight up 10% paycut in the form of 2 furlough days a month. That's two days a month they don't work and they don't get paid. Salaries will be adjusted to reflect the change in the coming month.
Please, for the love of all that is decent try growing a brain before you post again Poi!
The Truth

Honolulu, HI

#44 Oct 20, 2009
local wrote:
If the unions had settled the furloughs back in january, there would have been no layoffs and the furloughs would had been only 18 days or less. Great job Randy Perriera, your leadership just shows how incompetent you are.
No, the goVERMINor would have simply started layoffs earlier by saying the furloughs weren't enough to address the deficit. As it stands now, that's exactly what she is going to do anyway.

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