HGEA workers agree to cuts - Hawaii News

The Hawaii Government Employees Association has overwhelmingly ratified two-year contracts with the state and counties that include 42 days fewer workdays for most of its members. Full Story
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iluvkailua

Kailua, HI

#1 Oct 20, 2009
"In accepting these significant wage reductions, we expect the Lingle administration will look to ways other than layoffs to address the state's budget shortfall," Perreira said in a prepared statement last night. "It is incumbent upon our elected leaders to do what they can to prevent further job losses and greater impacts to the public services that our community relies upon." Hell will freeze over before this wish comes true. Of course there will be more layoffs. Come on Perreira, get the drift. The unions sacrificed the workers who did and will get laid off. Don't pass the buck, take the heat or get off the seat.
Upton

Makawao, HI

#2 Oct 20, 2009
Sounds like a good plan. Continue with furloughs, layoof and terminations and grand additional Hawaii Revised Exemptions HS 237 to fraudulent corporations.

Yes, and cut the number of school days per child but don't forget the tax exemptions for the HRS 237's.
realmerv

Wahiawa, HI

#3 Oct 20, 2009
Randy Perreira should stop using the word layoff in any of his speeches or interviews. You don't want Lingle to think of laying off more workers.

If he mentions layoff again, a light bulb may light up in Lingle's head and she may decide to lay off even more workers to balance the budget. He should instead emphasize the shared sacrifice that State workers have committed to with the budget crisis.
StateTaxPayer

AOL

#4 Oct 20, 2009
When do the politicans sacrifice?
WatsGoingOn

Honolulu, HI

#5 Oct 20, 2009
29,600 workers!!!!

No wonder we are going broke! This massive number does not include the UPW either!

The State needs to cull, it also needs to merge with the Counties and do away with the duplicate jobs, for example road repairs being performed in some instances by State crews and in other instances by City crews.

These government employees have become a weight around the taxpayers necks, it is time to privatize too!
Colleen Hanabooga

Honolulu, HI

#6 Oct 20, 2009
StateTaxPayer wrote:
When do the politicans sacrifice?
What are you suggesting?

We at the Legislature have worked hard to think of ways of raising taxes, after all you are used to paying high taxes so it does not matter, and we have got by on a meager 36% pay increase this year.

Let our constituents eat cake, suckers!
Mack Van Oppen

Honolulu, HI

#7 Oct 20, 2009
StateTaxPayer wrote:
When do the high paid coaches sacrifice?
I'm a State Employee and I took a pay cut too! I even cried on national TV.

MY boss Virginia Hindsore says I'm doing a million dollars worth of work even if I can't teach my boys how to win a game.

Gee whiz your going to make me cry again.
Poi

Newark, CA

#8 Oct 20, 2009
Funny how the "News" papers and politicians describe this "tremendous sacrifice".

What the article should say is; "State Workers get more days off".

Because that's what this is. It is not a cut in hourly or daily pay. It's an agreement to take some days off and go surfing.

Why do they do it this way in Hawaii? The "News" people at the daily rags won't tell you.

It's because of bumping rules that allow those with higher superiority to bump themselves into lower positions while RETAINING THEIR SAME PAY.

In other words, you losers can whine all you want but the Plantation Asian Democrat monopoly has had the system rigged for 50 years. You can't save money by laying people off if the high paid people are all going to stay on.

What they should have done it cut pay acrooss the board the way the Governor and her cabinet did to set an example. Of course the Governor and her cabinet are not subject to the Union rules of the Plantation Asian immigrant Democrat Party so they can do that.

No pay cut. More days off. Ahhh, life as a union member.

Arigato.
Flexo

Keauhou, HI

#10 Oct 20, 2009
"In accepting these significant wage reductions, we expect the Lingle administration will look to ways other than layoffs to address the state's budget shortfall," Perreira said in a prepared statement last night. "It is incumbent upon our elected leaders to do what they can to prevent further job losses and greater impacts to the public services that our community relies upon."

Translation. We expect the legislature to raise taxes in the coming year so we don't have to share the burden of the bad economy and we expect you to pass laws that prevent the guv from laying anymore of us off.

“No Free Speech Zones ”

Since: Jun 08

South Kona, brah

#11 Oct 20, 2009
Have to wonder about those union members.
Even after the governor tells them last Friday, DURING THE VOTING, there WILL be more layoffs EVEN IF the union agrees to these furloughs and pay reduction contracts, they vote for it.
Morons.
yep

Pearl City, HI

#12 Oct 20, 2009
Flexo wrote:
"In accepting these significant wage reductions, we expect the Lingle administration will look to ways other than layoffs to address the state's budget shortfall," Perreira said in a prepared statement last night. "It is incumbent upon our elected leaders to do what they can to prevent further job losses and greater impacts to the public services that our community relies upon."
Translation. We expect the legislature to raise taxes in the coming year so we don't have to share the burden of the bad economy and we expect you to pass laws that prevent the guv from laying anymore of us off.
let's not forget that thousands of children are on drugs and creating new children that need welfare and one third of the education budget for their special needs

get used to it bradahs and sistas --- and ain't the middle class aunty that is working as a clerk at the state that is bringing things down

it is all the meth smokin, government suckin losers that are all over the place

wake up people --- your state is full of people that never work a day in their lives
Einstein

Aiea, HI

#14 Oct 20, 2009
HGEA members fell into Lingle's trap, actually the settlement is for over a 50% pay cut over a long period of time. Think about it, in the next ten years you will not get back to the pay you are getting now and in ten years the cost of everything will double so actually this agreement calls for more then a 50% pay cut. State workers must be stupid and cannot figure out the actual lost. Well if you can survive a 50% pay cut goody for you but 99.9% of the State workers cannot survive on half their pay. Too late now, Lingle really screwed you guys. When Duke Aiona becomes governor he will call for an additional three days furlough and lay offs. That should wipe out the remaining .01% of State workers. Many will be homeless or begging. You voted for Republicans so suffer the consequences.
Duzy

Honolulu, HI

#15 Oct 20, 2009
HGEA needs new leadership, so does the Legislature. And the next governor needs to appoint a first-rate director of finance.
nope

Pearl City, HI

#16 Oct 20, 2009
Einstein wrote:
HGEA members fell into Lingle's trap, actually the settlement is for over a 50% pay cut over a long period of time. Think about it, in the next ten years you will not get back to the pay you are getting now and in ten years the cost of everything will double so actually this agreement calls for more then a 50% pay cut. State workers must be stupid and cannot figure out the actual lost. Well if you can survive a 50% pay cut goody for you but 99.9% of the State workers cannot survive on half their pay. Too late now, Lingle really screwed you guys. When Duke Aiona becomes governor he will call for an additional three days furlough and lay offs. That should wipe out the remaining .01% of State workers. Many will be homeless or begging. You voted for Republicans so suffer the consequences.
and I suppose Mufi or Ambercromby will bring a money printing press with them into office?

you missing the point Einstein --- this is called a paradigm shift

america deleverages and america has less --- politicians can't defy simple physics
toomuch

Honolulu, HI

#17 Oct 20, 2009
UPW will follow..........because they can't lead, thaey don't tell thier members anything, they only collect and raise union dues, let's see if they do what the rumors been saying........1 furlogh, 2 furlough,STRIKE....
Ed Advo

Kailua Kona, HI

#18 Oct 20, 2009
Blame Ratio:
HGEA = 16.7%
HSTA = 16.7%
BOE = 16.7%
DOE = 16.7%
Supermajority Democratic Legislature = 16.7%
Governor Lingle = 16.7%

Therefore, Democratic controlled governmental and non governmental elements = 83.3% of the blame.
fry-dayz

Honolulu, HI

#19 Oct 20, 2009
everyone is expecting that the furloughs will happen on a friday - well, to date, only the DOE (HSTA and select HGEA) have agreed to Friday as their furlough day. The rest of HGEA hasn't been told that gov't will be shut down on Fridays. So what if it's not Friday? You won't be able to vote on which day you'll have off - remember you voted for the 18/24 days - the employers will determine which day you will have off. you should have vote NO to ratify.
Von

Aiea, HI

#20 Oct 20, 2009
It took damn long enough. Everyone gets full pay while negotiations are going on and maybe overtime too. It's sure no bargain for the tax payers dragging this thing on forever. If they did not get paid while negotiating the deal would have been competed in less than five minutes.

All unions should be abolished and the savings from this scam should go to the school children to fix up the schools, buy text books, lunches, teachers and things.
s dogood

Wailuku, HI

#21 Oct 20, 2009
Lingle is going to keep cutting until she takes the Hawaii economy down.

Instead of supporting Hawaii jobs and helping the Hawaii economy through this tough time, she does just the opposite.

Instead of just raising the Hawaii sales tax 1% to solve this all, she tears away at any stability in jobs. She is then faced with lawsuits and further costs to the State, all leading to a downward spiral in Hawaii's economic confidence.

We will be able to thank Lingle for the looming Hawaii Depression.
local

Honolulu, HI

#22 Oct 20, 2009
If the unions had settled the furloughs back in january, there would have been no layoffs and the furloughs would had been only 18 days or less. Great job Randy Perriera, your leadership just shows how incompetent you are.

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