HPD program teaches law basics, disci...

HPD program teaches law basics, discipline

There are 586 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from May 10, 2008, titled HPD program teaches law basics, discipline. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

JAMM AQUINO / [email protected] During the Honolulu Police Department's Law Enforcement Explorers Program training class last month, student Jessica Lee, left, and police officer Chad Hironaka pinned ...

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to David

Hilo, HI

#21 May 10, 2008
Yes David, we understand the frustration of wanting to join something but being denied.

Yes, it hurts. Not being "good enough" to have been chosen.

Have you tried applying at other police departments around the country?

What were the results?

Based on your posts, it is...how do we say, "Quite obvious."

You have a good day now, David.

Bless you, my child.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#22 May 10, 2008
David is correct and we need to face that. HPD just is not doing the job. We need to sklash salary and benefits until they do perform at least at average levels.
klo

Honolulu, HI

#23 May 10, 2008
Alice Im not disputing what those officers did. They got caught, they paid the price. Im disputing the generalizations made by David and others. The P.D. cant do it alone, the public needs to get involved. Most people look the other way or wont testify for one reason or another. "oh officer I really didnt see anything"
Really, why did u call 911 then.
Heres a common practice: A spoiled kid acting up to his parents as a police officer walks by, The parents say, "IF you dont listen the police going take you away!" HUH? Thats your child you discipline them, teach them right from wrong. Be the role model a parent should be, dont pass the buck. You want things better get involved with your kids, community(Neighborhood watch) and take back your streets. Dont let fear turn your cheek. I dont..
new arrival

Hilo, HI

#24 May 10, 2008
alice, I have lived on Oahu for about 3 yrs and have been lucky to have not needed the police.
what are the problems that need to be fixed?
alice

Honolulu, HI

#25 May 10, 2008
klo..I agree with you. My point is that HPD just does not perform at an acceptable level. That has been well advertised by numerous articles in the paper.
new arrival

Hilo, HI

#26 May 10, 2008
Alice do you have personal experience or just what has been printed in the paper?

I too, have read stories of frustration and HPD.

I want to know what the issues are.
Sady

Honolulu, HI

#27 May 10, 2008
alice wrote:
David is sapient and bold is speaking the truth. No one here takes HPD seriously. They are an outrage and way overpaid.
Flush it Alice. What is so bold about you and David writing anonymous comments on this blog? No one takes HPD seriously? Would you be so bold enough to write your full name and address and say these same things directly to the face of a police officer? Point made, you damn creep, sorry @ss reason of a person!
Brenda

Honolulu, HI

#28 May 10, 2008
alice wrote:
klo..I agree with you. My point is that HPD just does not perform at an acceptable level. That has been well advertised by numerous articles in the paper.
What do you mean by this? HPD has saved countless lives and have been involved in numerous shootings to protect your sorry okole. What do you know about police work to know what is "acceptable." You are full of dog doodoo and don't know your head from your rearend. Next time you are crying for your life or someone has you at knife point, call a fireman whiner.
Bubba

Honolulu, HI

#29 May 10, 2008
alice wrote:
David is correct and we need to face that. HPD just is not doing the job. We need to sklash salary and benefits until they do perform at least at average levels.
Great incentive package. Did you think of that all by yourself? "Sklash" salary and benefits? Wow, that would really attract high quality individuals to the police force. By the way, your spelling is not at an acceptable level you moron.
Bobbi

Honolulu, HI

#30 May 10, 2008
alice wrote:
klo..I agree with you. My point is that HPD just does not perform at an acceptable level. That has been well advertised by numerous articles in the paper.
Who the hell are you to make this judgment call? You don't have the balls to go thru the rigorous training and strap on a gun to your belt and answer calls in your neighborhood that someone is shooting a gun. Cry me a river Alice you punk.
Jonny

Honolulu, HI

#31 May 10, 2008
David is nothing but a sour human being who writes anonymously from afar. He sounds like someone who took the police test but got rejected by HPD so now he sits at his computer all day in th dark and sends blog attacks while looking for an internet thailand bride. Great life David you loser.
new arrival

Hilo, HI

#32 May 10, 2008
Alice-- sorry but I must conclude two things:

1. You are a moron
2. You are a moron

Good Day.
Youkiddingme

AOL

#33 May 10, 2008
Another lesson that the police explorers will learn today is from this comments section. They will learn that some people hate the cops for weird and personal reasons. Some people are all about seeing the cup half empty instead of half full. Some people have a life time of hatred built up inside of them, perhaps when a cop humiliated them in front of their friends years ago. Perhaps a defense lawyer who wasn't quite up to the task of successfully defending his client. Perhaps an anarchist type who hates their parents, hates the world, and hates himself. Or maybe even a psychological pervert who enjoys putting people down who are trying to serve their community.

The lesson is, police explorers, you'll never make everyone happy. And some people actually hate you because of your job. But you'll keep attending the program because you are more honorable and mature thatn many, like David "The Anarchist" and Alice, the self appointed performanceinvestigator.
new arrival

Hilo, HI

#34 May 10, 2008
Would David and Alice like to "meet?"

I could set up a blind date.

It would be fun!


Moron "A" + Moron "B"

= Complete Idiocy
alice

Honolulu, HI

#35 May 10, 2008
Sounds like the HPD PR folks are still with us. Please consult the many stories in the Advertiser about the national rankings of mid-sized cities PD's. HPD comes in near the bottom. Let us face the liability we have with the force. Does anyone really think HPD is worth their bloated salaries? Ask anyone in the streets.
klo

Honolulu, HI

#36 May 10, 2008
Alice those stories give you stats. Look deeper into the stats. Go on a ride along(if you can keep your bias opinions in check) It will open your eyes and mind to what really goes into initiating and closing a case. It's easy to sit at home and complain, its alot harder to get involved. Better yet apply to the P.D and do it everyday.
Ging

Zirndorf, Germany

#37 May 10, 2008
Alice, it is not HPD who is being overpaid. Trust me, as a spouse of a former HPD officer, I should know. They are truly underpaid for having a thankless job. It is a job where everyday they are going to face some negative situation (burglaries, suicide, domestic altercations, drunk drivers, etc). In Hawaii they are scrutinized first before the situation is even investigated. They stand in 80+ weather wearing a thick heavy bullet proof vest. No...the problem is not that they are overpaid. The problem is not even that they are disgustingly underpaid for what they deal with on a day to day basis...but that the LAWS that govern them are not consistent. They arrest someone for dealing drugs knowing that in a few hours or a day, this "person" will be back out on the street due to a legal loophole that needed to be found because we have no room in our prisons. For police officers to put in their efforts to try to clean up our state, it is a travesty just to have the system fail to support them and their efforts.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#38 May 10, 2008
Ging..I agree. All good points. And Klo, I am a female teen hon. I am skinny and do not wnat to pass, nor could I pass, their physical exam. I know there are very good police here but on the whole the reecord of preventing and solving crime is not good. I realize that HPD is not totally to blame for their poor performance.
kahealani

Burbank, IL

#39 May 10, 2008
David wrote:
Does it teach them how to beat up suspects, lie in their reports, force 'tutes to perform services on them in the alleys on Hotel Street, force people they don't like to "bob" for frogs behind Waikiki Shell, moonlight as security for illegal gambling houses, break into houses in Hawaii Kai, steal from the evidence rooms and resell evidence drugs, lie on their time cards and travel vouchers, hang out with known organized crime figures on their off time, commit perjury, drive drunk and be completely prejudice too or does that come in a separate course later?
yeah david group hug..the frog incident was yeaaaars ago and they "paid"for it....I am sure it is much worse in "erine"ca..beating mexican immigrants and such..so get a live
Troll Hunter

Honolulu, HI

#40 May 10, 2008
new arrival wrote:
Would David and Alice like to "meet?"
I could set up a blind date.
It would be fun!
Moron "A" + Moron "B"
= Complete Idiocy
1 person
2 personalities

when "alice" stuffs the socks
"It" becomes David.

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