No pay hike for Billerica teachers

No pay hike for Billerica teachers

There are 14 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Apr 29, 2009, titled No pay hike for Billerica teachers. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

The town's teachers will not receive a pay raise next year under a new, three-year contract approved by the School Committee this week.

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resident

Boston, MA

#1 Apr 29, 2009
Why did they negotiate a contract for multiple years? This year it is important that all contracts are for 1 year only. We have no idea what the financial situation of the town will be next year or the year after. As for paying for the extra 2 days with the stimulus money,how will we pay for it in the future.

“I suffer fools poorly. ”

Since: Feb 09

Billerica, MA

#2 Apr 29, 2009
resident wrote:
Why did they negotiate a contract for multiple years? This year it is important that all contracts are for 1 year only. We have no idea what the financial situation of the town will be next year or the year after. As for paying for the extra 2 days with the stimulus money,how will we pay for it in the future.
On the backs of your children, grand-children and beyond, of course. Sad to say, but the baby boomer generation is the most arrogant, selfish, self-absorbed, unpatriotic and pathetic generation to come along since the Pilgrims. I just want to let you know; just like the days of Vietnam when many of you were pretending to be gay, running to Canada to hide, or hiding under your mommy's skirt, unashamed to be seen for the cowards that you were, I hold you all in absolute disdain. But, not for those days...for ending the glory of what used to be a free, relatively wealthy, and powerful force for good and for not caring about your own offspring. Cheers!

Here's a tip: At this moment we have military people in harms way risking life and limb for you. We have families of military members sitting at home wondering if their soldier will make it home at all, let alone in one piece. We have reservists who've lost their jobs due to extended deployments serving YOUR interest as well as their own. That is sacrifice.

Teacher unions forgoing a petty pay raise is not sacrifice. It is the right thing to do. Not many in the private sector are getting raises. 10% or more are losing their jobs. You see, they don't have tenure; so, their is no teat or public trough for them to suck on. They actually have to make it WITHOUT a government handout. Imagine that?
Average Jane

Boston, MA

#3 Apr 29, 2009
Sounds like the teachers are dammed and if they do, and dammed if they don't with you.
Rick from Billerica wrote:
<quoted text>
On the backs of your children, grand-children and beyond, of course. Sad to say, but the baby boomer generation is the most arrogant, selfish, self-absorbed, unpatriotic and pathetic generation to come along since the Pilgrims. I just want to let you know; just like the days of Vietnam when many of you were pretending to be gay, running to Canada to hide, or hiding under your mommy's skirt, unashamed to be seen for the cowards that you were, I hold you all in absolute disdain. But, not for those days...for ending the glory of what used to be a free, relatively wealthy, and powerful force for good and for not caring about your own offspring. Cheers!
Here's a tip: At this moment we have military people in harms way risking life and limb for you. We have families of military members sitting at home wondering if their soldier will make it home at all, let alone in one piece. We have reservists who've lost their jobs due to extended deployments serving YOUR interest as well as their own. That is sacrifice.
Teacher unions forgoing a petty pay raise is not sacrifice. It is the right thing to do. Not many in the private sector are getting raises. 10% or more are losing their jobs. You see, they don't have tenure; so, their is no teat or public trough for them to **** on. They actually have to make it WITHOUT a government handout. Imagine that?
adult

Chelmsford, MA

#4 Apr 29, 2009
Rick from Billerica wrote:
<quoted text>
On the backs of your children, grand-children and beyond, of course. Sad to say, but the baby boomer generation is the most arrogant, selfish, self-absorbed, unpatriotic and pathetic generation to come along since the Pilgrims. I just want to let you know; just like the days of Vietnam when many of you were pretending to be gay, running to Canada to hide, or hiding under your mommy's skirt, unashamed to be seen for the cowards that you were, I hold you all in absolute disdain. But, not for those days...for ending the glory of what used to be a free, relatively wealthy, and powerful force for good and for not caring about your own offspring. Cheers!
Here's a tip: At this moment we have military people in harms way risking life and limb for you. We have families of military members sitting at home wondering if their soldier will make it home at all, let alone in one piece. We have reservists who've lost their jobs due to extended deployments serving YOUR interest as well as their own. That is sacrifice.
Teacher unions forgoing a petty pay raise is not sacrifice. It is the right thing to do. Not many in the private sector are getting raises. 10% or more are losing their jobs. You see, they don't have tenure; so, their is no teat or public trough for them to **** on. They actually have to make it WITHOUT a government handout. Imagine that?
What do you have against pilgrims? Too gay?
for the record

Cambridge, MA

#5 Apr 29, 2009
The extra two days are for this year only. So there will be no need for funding it in the future. Also, the wage portion of the contract is for one year only. The 3 year part is for the conditions, not the salaries.
resident wrote:
Why did they negotiate a contract for multiple years? This year it is important that all contracts are for 1 year only. We have no idea what the financial situation of the town will be next year or the year after. As for paying for the extra 2 days with the stimulus money,how will we pay for it in the future.
inconvenient facts

Piscataway, NJ

#6 Apr 29, 2009
poor article....sun leaves uncertain if the the step increases were also zero....I'm guessing that the step are still in effect so the teachers got a raise just not as much as usual
Padawan

Tyngsboro, MA

#7 Apr 29, 2009
for the record wrote:
The extra two days are for this year only. So there will be no need for funding it in the future. Also, the wage portion of the contract is for one year only. The 3 year part is for the conditions, not the salaries.
<quoted text>
You've been reported!

“I suffer fools poorly. ”

Since: Feb 09

Billerica, MA

#8 Apr 29, 2009
Average Jane wrote:
Sounds like the teachers are dammed and if they do, and dammed if they don't with you.
<quoted text>
Not really. I just don't believe in government hacks teaching kids. I'd like to see public education abandoned and parents allowed to choose schools based on performance.

I'd like to see tenure done away with. Garbage needs to be thrown out of the house from time to time and so it goes with poor performing teachers.

I'd like to see department head and teacher-managers teaching instead of involving themselves with things a secretary could handle or that could be managed during down time.

I'd like to see a requirement for teachers to complete continuing education classes in order to maintain their licensure and teaching credential like most professions in medicine have to do.

I'd truly like to see teachers teach instead of indoctrinate by using books that have been screened in advance for completeness and accuracy; not half truths, omissions and outright lies.

In sum, you're not damned if you do, but you should be damned if you don't. Invest the parents in a child's education by the power of choice and the entire nation would be better off in my view.

“I suffer fools poorly. ”

Since: Feb 09

Billerica, MA

#9 Apr 29, 2009
adult wrote:
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What do you have against pilgrims? Too gay?
This is what I mean about a public education. If you could read and comprehend properly, you would understand that "since the Pilgrims" means people "after the Pilgrims". The one constant in a public education that I can see is that one has no problems demonstrating the flaws publicly as you have done here. Your stupid question both makes my point and makes transparent the lack of depth in your thinking.

Here's something from which you may actually benefit. This link will take you to an article about how the Pilgrims nearly were wiped out by practicing socialism and waiting for a handout. It also demonstrates that back then, we in Massachusetts actually had a Governor with backbone, intellect and an appreciation for the merits of self-interest and self-sufficiency. You could use the story as a metaphor (I hope I didn't just lose you) for a union structure vs a capitalist, rugged individualist environment.

Check it out here if you truly want to have something to contribute with any semblence of contribution: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/200...

“I suffer fools poorly. ”

Since: Feb 09

Billerica, MA

#10 Apr 29, 2009
Padawan wrote:
<quoted text>
You've been reported!
You've been seen fully clothed but still making a fool out of yourself. Your point is?

“I suffer fools poorly. ”

Since: Feb 09

Billerica, MA

#11 Apr 29, 2009
adult wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you have against pilgrims? Too gay?
I think you are using someone else's screen name "Adult" HeH...rolling on the floor laughing...Adult!...stop, you're making my side hurt.
Joey

Maynard, MA

#12 Apr 30, 2009
How can you stimulus money for salaries? This is one time money and no guarantee to be available in future budgets. The stimulus money should be used for one time purchases or fixes to schools.

“I suffer fools poorly. ”

Since: Feb 09

Billerica, MA

#13 May 9, 2009
Joey wrote:
How can you stimulus money for salaries? This is one time money and no guarantee to be available in future budgets. The stimulus money should be used for one time purchases or fixes to schools.
Another public school genius.
Joey

Maynard, MA

#14 May 12, 2009
Rick from Billerica wrote:
<quoted text>
Another public school genius.
Thanks for the compliment on being a genius. Besides public schools, add college education to the list.

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