Mom turns son in for Billerica robbery after seeing YouTube clip

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Troy Beers of Peabody learned that lesson the hard way, when his mother, June, turned him in to police after recognizing Beers in a video of a Billerica store robbery that was playing on YouTube. Full Story
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Lowell Voter

Cambridge, MA

#42 Aug 25, 2010
Really wrote:
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Listen, people aren't computers, or robots that you program that will run by that program, and never divert from the program unless otherwise commanded to do so. We're talking about real life, flesh & blood people with their own minds. Believe it or not, some people still do what they want, even though told to do otherwise. I see your point that a lot of these cases can be traced back to bad parenting, but to just deem this woman a bad mother before knowing any facts, or history is just rediculous. Sometimes people just do stupid stuff, for no good sensible reason at all. Reguardless of their upbringing. Sometimes looking in the mirror, you find the real person at fault. We all have choices in life. You can't take credit for the good ones you make, then pass off the bad ones as bad parenting, or someone elses fault. Again, "ACCOUNTABILITY".
To an extent you are right, we are not computers, but if Pavlov can condition a dog to salivate for a bell and you can train your child not to write on the wall with a crayon, then a person can train a child not to use illegal drugs IF THEY WANT TO. Now I make an exception for genetics because there will always be people of diminished cognitive ability who just lack the ability to make consistent and good decisions. Otherwise, putting the needle in your arm is an affirmative act and if you have been taught not to do it, you won't.

The sad truth is that most parents don't bother to teach their children and you see these patterns repeat themselves generation after generation after generation. Parents either excuse some drug use ("hey... it's only a little pot...") or don't get involved in their kids' lives enough to a) develop confident personalities that can resist 'peer pressure,' and b) know whetehr their 'friends' are either idiots or being raised by Bad Parents themselves.

Now these parents make all sorts of excuses about why they are too busy or hopw the child "won't let them in" or some other nonsense. But the sad truth is that if they were active and involved from day one, they would always have the time and would already "be in" their childrens' lives. When parents try to assume the role fo friend, they have failed, and have put their child on equal footing. If the kid makes bad decisions after that, whose fault is it? An untaught child or a parent who failed to act like an adult?

“um, ok...yea, that's it...”

Since: Aug 08

Lowell

#43 Aug 25, 2010
Way to go Mom! This is an example EVERYONE should take. Our society has a bad habit of coddling and protecting our children to an unhealthy extent! It has created a new breed of kids for sure.

Teach your kids to take responsiblity for their actions! That is what this mom did.

Great job. I hope more mom's follow suit!
Dracut Retiree

Tewksbury, MA

#44 Aug 25, 2010
Lowell Girl at Heart wrote:
Way to go Mom! This is an example EVERYONE should take. Our society has a bad habit of coddling and protecting our children to an unhealthy extent! It has created a new breed of kids for sure.
Teach your kids to take responsiblity for their actions! That is what this mom did.
Great job. I hope more mom's follow suit!
Hi there, just wanted to stop in and say "Hello" and hope all is well, btw I agree with you!
Really

Pleasanton, CA

#45 Aug 25, 2010
Lowell Voter wrote:
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To an extent you are right, we are not computers, but if Pavlov can condition a dog to salivate for a bell and you can train your child not to write on the wall with a crayon, then a person can train a child not to use illegal drugs IF THEY WANT TO. Now I make an exception for genetics because there will always be people of diminished cognitive ability who just lack the ability to make consistent and good decisions. Otherwise, putting the needle in your arm is an affirmative act and if you have been taught not to do it, you won't.
The sad truth is that most parents don't bother to teach their children and you see these patterns repeat themselves generation after generation after generation. Parents either excuse some drug use ("hey... it's only a little pot...") or don't get involved in their kids' lives enough to a) develop confident personalities that can resist 'peer pressure,' and b) know whetehr their 'friends' are either idiots or being raised by Bad Parents themselves.
Now these parents make all sorts of excuses about why they are too busy or hopw the child "won't let them in" or some other nonsense. But the sad truth is that if they were active and involved from day one, they would always have the time and would already "be in" their childrens' lives. When parents try to assume the role fo friend, they have failed, and have put their child on equal footing. If the kid makes bad decisions after that, whose fault is it? An untaught child or a parent who failed to act like an adult?
You are comparing a dogs mentality to a humans. You are also assuming everyone does as they're told, 24/7, their whole life. Life just doesn't work that way. It's not reality, and just not pratical to expect it to work that way. I agree with what your saying about the parents trying to be their friend instead of a parent, when it happens that way. But how do you explain it when a parent does everything possible, and spends just about 24/7 with their child ? Talking to them, doing things as a family, teaching them right from wrong, and stil the child (or young adult) strays their way into drugs ? Now do you blame the parent for crowding the child ? When does the blame game stop ? With your way of thinking, parents should consider themselves a failure if their child eats the chocolate chip cookie before supper, when you told them they shouldn't, because it may spoil their dinner. Life is learned through trial and error with a lot of kids. No matter how much you tell someone something, and try to teach them, and show them the right path, some still need to find out "why", for themselves. It's very unfortunate when it happens, but it DOES happen sometimes. I'm not saying all these parents are "model Parents". All I'm saying is that it's not as cut & dry as you make it out to be. You can't just say, do this, this, and this, and everything will work out perfect. There are no guarantees in life. I thought we all knew that.
Bill Ws Buddy

Fitchburg, MA

#46 Aug 25, 2010
Lowell Voter wrote:
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To an extent you are right, we are not computers, but if Pavlov can condition a dog to salivate for a bell and you can train your child not to write on the wall with a crayon, then a person can train a child not to use illegal drugs IF THEY WANT TO. Now I make an exception for genetics because there will always be people of diminished cognitive ability who just lack the ability to make consistent and good decisions. Otherwise, putting the needle in your arm is an affirmative act and if you have been taught not to do it, you won't.
Alcoholism/addiction does not prey on those of lesser abilities or function, nor does it exclude them. Although the research consistently indicates highly intelligent people are at a much greater risk for the disease. Which make sense to me. I've heard many people say that they took to drugs/alcohol in adoloesence because it was the only way they could "shut their brain off", and I found this to be the case myself in my teens.
It's a tough to compare not coloring on the wall to not using drugs. It's been a while since my last crayola wall mural but I'm pretty sure if it induced a feeling well being, or if my favorite movie star made it look cool, or if all my friends were telling me it was cool, I'm sure I would remember and I probably would have tried that in my teens too. This is because the alcoholic/addict feels like they do not belong even amongst a group of friends, all alone in a room full of loved ones etc... And these feelings exist int he acloholic way before the first drink or drug. It's tough to relate to unless you've been there....
Seriously

Cambridge, MA

#47 Aug 25, 2010
Bill Ws Buddy wrote:
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I'm pretty sure if it induced a feeling well being, or if my favorite movie star made it look cool, or if all my friends were telling me it was cool, I'm sure I would remember and I probably would have tried that in my teens too. This is because the alcoholic/addict feels like they do not belong even amongst a group of friends, all alone in a room full of loved ones etc... And these feelings exist int he acloholic way before the first drink or drug. It's tough to relate to unless you've been there....
I have to agree with the sarcastic woman to an extent... if the kid has these slef esteem issues you are describing then the parent was a failure in raising a confident child who felt loved. Generally this behavior results from child neglect/abuse which spurs a desire to "fit in" with a crowd by whatever means necessary.

I disagree with the sarcastic person's idea that you can teach a person to be "good" and strongly believe that some people are just Evil. Evil people cannot be rehabilitated, nor can drug addicts who are weak and defective. As a society, we should institutionalize them and stop the wave of crime they create.
Bill Ws Buddy

Framingham, MA

#48 Aug 25, 2010
For sure environment plays a role in how a person develops, but the fact is why some people suffer from alcoholism and others do not remains a mystery still today.
I have to disagree about some addicts just being weak, in the same way people question why addicts don't have the will power to put the bottle, pipe, needle, or pill down. Quite to the contrary, it takes a measure of will power that most do not posses to live the tortuous life of the addict. It flies in the face of instinct to knowingly self destruct. Most people could never endure the pain, shame, guilt, loneliness and consequences that the addict must live with (and thank God for that). The irony is that to do so IS instinct for the addict. For the addict, not using is akin to the "normal" person trying to breathe underwater.
I believe that all addicts can become good people once again, with the rare exception being sociopaths or others with severe mental illness, it will likely require a spiritual awakening for this to happen.
The only time you should ever look down at an addict/alcoholic is when you bend over to help them up.
So out of touch

Lowell, MA

#49 Aug 25, 2010
Seriously wrote:
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I have to agree with the sarcastic woman to an extent... if the kid has these slef esteem issues you are describing then the parent was a failure in raising a confident child who felt loved. Generally this behavior results from child neglect/abuse which spurs a desire to "fit in" with a crowd by whatever means necessary.
I disagree with the sarcastic person's idea that you can teach a person to be "good" and strongly believe that some people are just Evil. Evil people cannot be rehabilitated, nor can drug addicts who are weak and defective. As a society, we should institutionalize them and stop the wave of crime they create.
My god people think outside the box for once will ya. So every feeling in a child is result of parent(s)?? That is what you are saying. What about children who are bullied at school and are too shamed to even tell their parents and suffer low self esteem. Is that the parents fault too? What about children who are abused by strangers, clergy, whomever and the parents don't find out until it's too late. What about the child who puts too much pressure on him/herself and puts themself down for not having all A's, not being in the right clique, not wearing the right clothes etc etc. Do you even have children and understand an adolescent psyche? I guess not. Stop blaming parents for everything a child thinks and feels.
Seriously

Cambridge, MA

#50 Aug 26, 2010
So out of touch wrote:
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My god people think outside the box for once will ya. So every feeling in a child is result of parent(s)?? That is what you are saying. What about children who are bullied at school and are too shamed to even tell their parents and suffer low self esteem. Is that the parents fault too? What about children who are abused by strangers, clergy, whomever and the parents don't find out until it's too late. What about the child who puts too much pressure on him/herself and puts themself down for not having all A's, not being in the right clique, not wearing the right clothes etc etc. Do you even have children and understand an adolescent psyche? I guess not. Stop blaming parents for everything a child thinks and feels.
Wahhh. We should just put bullets in all of these junkies heads. Save us the cost of arresting and prosecuting them and then housing them in jail. Save us the cost of the fake treatment programs and the cost of them reproducing to create another generation of losers.

Have you ever noticed that NORMAL PARENTS don't have junkies for kids? It's always the ones who are looking for an excuse and someone else to blame for why their kid turned out so f-ed up.

These are the same people who when their car runs out of gas blame the car company for not making the car get better mileage or for making the fuel gauge too small to notice. Bunch of losers producing even more losers. TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR FAILURES... YOUR KIDS ARE WHAT YOU MADE THEM!!!!
Dracut Retiree

Tewksbury, MA

#51 Aug 26, 2010
Seriously wrote:
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Wahhh. We should just put bullets in all of these junkies heads. Save us the cost of arresting and prosecuting them and then housing them in jail. Save us the cost of the fake treatment programs and the cost of them reproducing to create another generation of losers.
Have you ever noticed that NORMAL PARENTS don't have junkies for kids? It's always the ones who are looking for an excuse and someone else to blame for why their kid turned out so f-ed up.
These are the same people who when their car runs out of gas blame the car company for not making the car get better mileage or for making the fuel gauge too small to notice. Bunch of losers producing even more losers. TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR FAILURES... YOUR KIDS ARE WHAT YOU MADE THEM!!!!
As Dr. Phil would say: YOU,(with pointing finger) need %^&*+#@ Help! Along with sesitivity training!
latinlady

United States

#52 Aug 26, 2010
well done mom i would have done the same thing and maybe a slap in the face too little p***k

“um, ok...yea, that's it...”

Since: Aug 08

Lowell

#53 Aug 27, 2010
Dracut Retiree wrote:
<quoted text> Hi there, just wanted to stop in and say "Hello" and hope all is well, btw I agree with you!
Hi DR - all is well here...how are things in your neck of the woods?
Billerica Resident

Tewksbury, MA

#54 Aug 27, 2010
Fuzz wrote:
You don't rat out your own blood, even if they are a scumbag
Please consider that turning her son in may have been a desperate mother's last chance of getting him some help.
Dracut Retiree

Tewksbury, MA

#55 Aug 27, 2010
Lowell Girl at Heart wrote:
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Hi DR - all is well here...how are things in your neck of the woods?
Glad to hear it. I am doing good, been a wonderful summer and able to enjoy the pool and ocean visits.
peach6972

Trenton, NJ

#56 Aug 27, 2010
We need more mom like her. I give you thumb up. U r a good mom.u c somthin wrong n you did da wrigth thing
Bagdad Harry

United States

#57 Aug 27, 2010
NH Mom wrote:
It took a lot of courage for this mother to do the right thing. I hope her son gets the help he needs to turn his life around.
Come now...he was an aspiring rap musician...
This will probably just add to his resume...sorry i mean street cred..
Fuzz

Lowell, MA

#58 Aug 28, 2010
Lotta haters on my post "You don't rat out your own blood, even if they are a scumbag" but I'm sure you'd save your family before a stranger in any situation. People do wrong, it's their life and they will face consequence, in this life or the next. To sacrifice your kin in the name of some moral objective is wrong because it breaks the most sacred binds we never hope to lose. You'll ask God for forgiveness of your sins, and believe you have the right to Heaven for your personal suffering living with the guilt of your trespasses... and if you really believe that then you can find forgiveness for anyone, most of all family. And hopefully, when you're at The Gates, you won't be looked at as a stranger; so easy to condemn without knowing a path or a past.
citizen

Lowell, MA

#59 Aug 28, 2010
I don't think she sacrificed her kin in the name of some moral objective. I think the poor mother was probably at the end of her rope with her kid and thought this was the only way to maybe get him straight. She would have been doing him no favors in covering this up because there would be a next time and sooner or later, either he would get hurt or he would hurt someone else. I think this mother did the right thing and I applaud the courage it must have took to do it. I hope this story someday has a happy ending and her kid takes the help he needs and lives a productive happy healthy life.
Sounds fishy

Cambridge, MA

#60 Aug 31, 2010
citizen wrote:
I don't think she sacrificed her kin in the name of some moral objective. I think the poor mother was probably at the end of her rope with her kid and thought this was the only way to maybe get him straight. She would have been doing him no favors in covering this up because there would be a next time and sooner or later, either he would get hurt or he would hurt someone else. I think this mother did the right thing and I applaud the courage it must have took to do it. I hope this story someday has a happy ending and her kid takes the help he needs and lives a productive happy healthy life.
Well... I have to say that this is what happens when you let crack heads breed and raise children... Bad Seed = Bad Crop

Parents should have raised him not to be a criminal and then they wouldn't need to make a "desperate plea for help" or some other such nonsense.

Kid is an f-up... Mom is an f-up who raised another f-up. Daddy is probably out scoring crack. And here we alla re debating whetehr she is a good parent or bad.

The funniest thing is that all of the Bad Parents on this board are here defending Mom and Dad's raising of the kid.
A Parent

Dracut, MA

#61 Sep 24, 2010
Bad Parent Bad wrote:
This is an example of why this kid turned out to be a criminal.
Peopl;e are either born genetically defective and destined to be a criminal, or they are raised by f-in bad parents and learn how to be criminals.
If your kid is a criminal or a junkie, guess what? It is your fault. They came from you (genetically) and were raised by you.
If this parent had been a good parent, then this kid would only have genetics to blame.
Clearly you aren't a parent! Because as much as we love and nurture our children and do our best to raise them with morals and standards to live by, as our children get older and start to spread their wings (so to speak) if we are doing our job as a parent, we allow them to. As a result we can't always be there with them 24 hrs a day to control how they choose to spend their time on their own. Some make good choices, some don't. It is not only the parents having an influence over our children, so when they make their choices, it isn't always the parents fault if they make the wrong choices or the choices we wouldn't have wished they make. This Mom did the best she knew by her child and I for one commend her for doing the right thing. For you or anyone to say it is her fault that her son made the choices he did is cruel and unfair. She is just doing her job as a parent to have her son own up to and deal with the consequences of HIS actions.(Not hers!)

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