Should a State Institution for Developmentally Disabled Close

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The Southern Oklahoma Resource Center in Pauls Valley could close, sending its 135 residents into the community to live with their families, on their own with caregivers or in group homes.

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State run facilities receive 3 times the re-imbursement that community based ICF/MR facilities receive. By history, large congregate facilites do not receive the care that smaller facilities get. DDSD placement has 4-5 yr wait. As far as SORC, yes it should be closed.
Linda

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Absolutely not... some of these children have been there over fourty years. They
only know SORC. If we only had a representative, who had a child in there for
that length of time, and we would get funding.
Panther fan

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I feel that no opinion is needed by people who are not directly related to this story. You are messing w/ peoples way of life, and all they know. I understand that tax dollars are going towards this endevour. However, until you have walked a mile in the clients shoes, or their parent or guardians shoes, you should keep your opinions to yourself. By the way I am a special education teacher and know and understand what SORC stands for and why it was put into place sooo many decades ago. My Grandmother worked there when it was very first opened, and retired from there 45 years later, as well as my Grandfather. Thank you for making the public aware, but please do not bash a place that gives such a great service to adults and their families if all that you know about it, is what you heard on the news.
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I personally believe it should be closed. I have worked in Gatesway West in Stillwater which is closed now. I have also worked in Group home settings. The staff has more time to give them one on one which is important in teaching them daily living skills and taking them on outings in the community. I love working with these indivduals so much they are beautiful sweet loving people.
Panther fan

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DDSD placement actually has a 7 year wating list right now by the way.
leslie

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To be honest, I see both sides. I worked in a facility and group home settings. I would choose group home any day. The reason because there is more time to spend with the ones who need one on one care. They get round the clock care still they also have healthcare cordinators to make doctor appointments and visits. Yes I believe the transition is hard but they may like the attention that they can get in a group home setting. I say don't knock it til you try it. Your loved may be happier. I have seen the ones that have came out of facility settings into group homes and it be better. You as family just have to be involved and meet the staff and trust that it takes a special person to be able to care for them.
Roy

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As far as comments about the residents, they are adults not children. Just because someone has a decreased mental capacity doesn't make them a child. Dealing with people who have special needs is no different than working with any one else. We all have our own areas of deficiency. And we all process information differently. As far as facilities, many of the people residing in ICF or DDSD do not have family members who participate in their lives or their families have died.
We should look more at the services provided and make sure that we are not wasting the funds available. There is a lot of waste in the system as well as redundant rules and regulations that drive up service costs. Clients need all they can get. Lets make sure they get what they need.
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The figures stated in this Newscast does not include round the clock medical, casemanagement, psychological and psychiatriac services, Physical Therapy, Occupational Therapy,Vocational Training etc. Many clients who have left SORC have not had successful placements. Please do not let DHS skewed numbers make you think it is more cost effective for the clients to be put into community placement. Federal Funds for SORC are 60%. State Funds are 40%. Some of the people who really want SORC closed have an agenda. Money to line their pocketbooks. Agencies who serve these clients do not have the oversight, dedicated employees or medical capacities and therapies as SORC. My loved one lived there until he died at a good ripe old age. I know he was happy and I wouldn't have had him move anywhere else.
Tamy Cottrell

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Due to the already decreasing economy, jobs are already hard to come by. Why make unneccessary decreases when these people are being utilized in their communities by making a respectful living, helping handicapped and their families to be able to make a life as best as possible. This world is hard enough to get by without taking away the living and income of families who rely and depend on this income. These people with disabilities cannot talk or defend this request to shut down, is it fair to also take away their family and friends for this request. People state that it is emotionally upsetting to move normal kids from their families.
Well what about the emotional distress it will cause these clients.

Thank You.
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Go back and check the costs to the state when Hissom was closed.
You take 20 people who need round-the-clock care and put them into individual homes with 24-hr care, therapists and medical personnel. Now how is that cheaper than a group home or institution? Also, there are safety issues when these individuals are put into single homes. Very little oversight exists now. History shows the state would be very unlikely to allocate adequate funds for caseworkers to check on these people on a regular basis to ensure their safety and wellbeing.
Now to all those vocal Christian voters advocating for lower taxes: Aren't we our brothers keeper when it comes to vulnerable individuals like these? How many of you would volunteer to become a caretaker, an advocate or an oversight agent for any of these? It's certainly easier to demonstrate righteous indignation at the government than it is to demonstrate the teachings of Christ, isn't it?
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Why does Oklahoma have so many disabled and mentally challenged people there? I seriously never seen so many people who were either mentally handicapped or morbidly obese to the point of being disabled until I lived in Oklahoma. It's like America sent all of their lower class whites and mentally defected white trash from the east into Oklahoma to cohabite with the Indians.
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Black Empowerment wrote:
Why does Oklahoma have so many disabled and mentally challenged people there? I seriously never seen so many people who were either mentally handicapped or morbidly obese to the point of being disabled until I lived in Oklahoma. It's like America sent all of their lower class whites and mentally defected white trash from the east into Oklahoma to cohabite with the Indians.
Well it's obvious that you yourself are mentally challenged as well just from the comment you made. You should research how many facilities or group homes Louisiana has for the mentally handicapped. At the facility I work at the clients have more intelligence than you. They are loving and caring individuals of all nationalities, it appears that's something you lack. It really sounds to me that you are being racist and it doesn't have anything to do with the color of skin on whether a person is born with a handicap or not. And just so you know I am not racist in the least bit because I am married to a black man and have 2 beautiful black sons, so if you think I am being partial to whites you are sadly mistaken...Thank you for your time

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This type of place is where our tax $$ SHOULD be going rather than to the people who sit at home on their behinds watching Oprah!
Angela Stroope

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Maybe we should look at cutting some of the money going out to illegal aliens here and take care of the citizens of our state. Something is wrong with a state that would look out for the ones that are not even taking the time to get their citizenship first before they would take care of the ones born and raised here. This is really messed up.
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I have worked with people with dis. for years.I think they need to be in the comm.If u make a slow change over the ind. will do fine with an HTS. HTS can be job coaches they can take them to the store and introduce new smells to them and get them out into the comm. to me that is what a person needs. I worked with a Hissome Client and he had some bad things happen to him while he was in the inst. but he has been in the comm. In a more natural environment like u and I and is doing well.He is blind and can help u bake cookies among other things .I feel like they get to be more of an ind. like u and I.Give it a chance It can be a wonderful thing for a person to exp.Change is not all bad. people tend to forget that just because of a disability, doen't mean that they can't learn or except change and it is better for them do ur homework.
Shelia Day

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Thank you for being our voice!! I am proudly a mother of a child that lives at SORC!!! These are some of the most medically fragil citizens.. SORC is a wonderful place for there medical attention, the level of care and they treat these clients like there are so important and they are someone.. Please help us join the fight to keep it open! Uncover the really big issue's. It is not all about money!!!!! These clients need medical treatment 24/7.. This can not be givin in group or community homes.. at SORC we have DR and nurses on staff that can take care of there needs in any emergency FAST! I have a child that needs that level of care! Thank you and please be out voice!!!
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Shutting down a home for those who need it due to lack of funds, but we’re willing to spend millions on a race track.

Not willing to fund our children’s education with SQ744.

How we care for our children, the poor, and those who are unable to help themselves reveals our true priorities.

We need to do what’s best for the people instead of making decisions based solely on dollar amounts.
Shelia Day

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Roy wrote:
As far as comments about the residents, they are adults not children. Just because someone has a decreased mental capacity doesn't make them a child. Dealing with people who have special needs is no different than working with any one else. We all have our own areas of deficiency. And we all process information differently. As far as facilities, many of the people residing in ICF or DDSD do not have family members who participate in their lives or their families have died.
We should look more at the services provided and make sure that we are not wasting the funds available. There is a lot of waste in the system as well as redundant rules and regulations that drive up service costs. Clients need all they can get. Lets make sure they get what they need.
Wow, it is not a waste of funds! Please tour the play Roy!!! Look at the love, sttention, health care and how each client is treated.. people that work work with them are the finest! Maybe the state should take money away from stuff that Oklahma does not need!!!
Shelia Day

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<quoted text>Well it's obvious that you yourself are mentally challenged as well just from the comment you made. You should research how many facilities or group homes Louisiana has for the mentally handicapped. At the facility I work at the clients have more intelligence than you. They are loving and caring individuals of all nationalities, it appears that's something you lack. It really sounds to me that you are being racist and it doesn't have anything to do with the color of skin on whether a person is born with a handicap or not. And just so you know I am not racist in the least bit because I am married to a black man and have 2 beautiful black sons, so if you think I am being partial to whites you are sadly mistaken...Thank you for your time
Wow, If you had a love one or a child that had these mental or physical problem's you would not blast them! God loves all his children! Please if you can not say anything nice or help support one another leave your nasty comments to your self. These are the most medically fragile citizens! They need people to stand up and be there voice not Thrown aside like trash! THEY ARE SOMEONE!
Shelia Day

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Roy wrote:
State run facilities receive 3 times the re-imbursement that community based ICF/MR facilities receive. By history, large congregate facilites do not receive the care that smaller facilities get. DDSD placement has 4-5 yr wait. As far as SORC, yes it should be closed.
WHY????? Southern Oklahoma Resource Center gives these clients love, medical attention and treats them like they are important! It is all because of money! Do you have a child or a loved on that lives or needs this kind of attention??? Please take the time to tour the location! We need SORC! These clients need there home!

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