Wait wait you have harsh words for this "Compak" guy but none for the other nutbags that are posting ridiculous comments about cops.I think you need to F OFF youself too you hypocrite.<quoted text>
You're a ****-U-K-K-I-N-G ****-h-o-l-e. How dare you bring David March's name into this with your snide comments! You're not even worthy to say his name. You must related to Armondo Garcia-same mentality. Dog feces has more use and value than you. EFF OFF!
RIP Deputy March and Ofcr. Montalvo. EOW and Godspeed.
#42 Mar 5, 2010
#44 Mar 5, 2010
What did I tell you. HITS (Handgun Instructor Training School)and all the cops would write in about what I wrote. I used "The Truth" because I was honest and every citizen should know the truth about cops. HITS supported every stereotype of cops by what you wrote about Newton, 77th, SOE, SOW because you believe that poor minorities aren't entitled to quality police service because they are too uneducated to appreciate it.
Where in the LAPD Manual does it state we give better quality police service to the west side and Valley versus south central just because we get tired of the ungrateful criminal element down there. The answer is "You Dont get to make that decision." Why did you not mention our abuse of overtime? Why did you not mention what we all know about Montalvo's death? Its none of my business but come on, we all heard what happened thru the LAPD gossip lines already.
You are a sheep and you drank the LAPD Kool-Aid a long time ago. Most of us miss Daryl Gates. I have no doubt in my mind that you did not work for Gates ever. You are a Willie Williams or Bernard Parks recruit. Once again for everyone reading if you want to know the TRUTH.. Just ask and I will tell you everything. LAPD cops are scared about what I might say. As so far as "Law Abiding Citizen" I know he's angry at cops and probably for good reason as he mentioned. There are good cops that treat everyone regardless of where they live HITS, with honor and respect even though we hate them. Its not about the client, its about the job and the history of LAPD. I treat a crack head with respect not for him or her but for me and my loyalty to LAPD. "To Protect and to Serve" doesn't come with conditions HITS! Your comments just set us back another 30 years and validated "Law Abiding Citizens" harsh comments about cops.
Ask, and I will tell you "The Truth!"
#45 Mar 5, 2010
He could be a vet. Many military veterans have tattoos.
#47 Mar 6, 2010
to The Truth...
Don't leave us civvies hanging...what do you guys know about this accident that we don't? Let us in on the gossip.
#48 Mar 6, 2010
We are celebrating this persons life and we have no idea why she put numerous people in the hospital by jumping the median and causing a crash. What has this country come to??? Because shes a cop! Wow so many ignorant people. Sad
#49 Mar 6, 2010
Yeah man, give us the goods!!
#50 Mar 6, 2010
To: "the truth" I don't know any officer that would disrespect another by placing his/her political viewpoints on an article referencing an officer that was killed. If you are an officer you should take a look at all the money you yourself are being paid to have the luxury of the internet and time to sit around and respond to all these posts. Sounds like you yourself are one of those lazy 15. You are an embarrassment to the yourself and your profession.
May Montalvo rest in peace and good or bad the truth be told about the accident.
#53 Mar 6, 2010
Does that mean pot smoking republican? Wow.. thats a new one for me.
Cops, in general, are emotional pissed off people who have horrible relationship skills. Thats because we are used to doing what we want and not giving a crap what anyone thinks including our so called loved ones. Because of this attitude, we are also the ones who will take on an active shooter as he shoots and kills people. Watch the North Hollywood Shoot out videos on You Tube a few times.
There have been other comments about her driving just prior to this accident by witnesses she passed just before she crashed. She was either upset, in a hurry and swerving in and out of traffic. I was hoping she just came upon a stopped car and crossed the divider to avoid an accident but unfortunately her speed is a major issue. Her speed coupled with the witnesses observations of her driving are of concern.
Her toxicology results may or may not give additional evidence, but you don't have to be under the influence to cause an accident given your state of mind. Her cell phone records will be evaluated as will the people she was talking to just prior to driving or while she was driving.
She was trained to drive at high speeds and avoid accidents as well as braking and accelerating quickly in pursuits. She had a great car for that kind of driving, so the question is WHY?
I agree with 420 Republican, in that you don't involve and hospitalize other innocent people. Could it be a simple car accident? Maybe, but then high speed was an issue and she lost control. Having been more highly trained then most citizens, she would have utilized her brakes and counter steering better. Her car surely had anti-lock brakes and the accident investigation team will evaluate skid marks or lack there of, as well as the internal black box in the car that calculates speed at impact, brake usage and close calls and impacts that deploy air bags. The fact that the air bags didn't save her cause me to believe speed and braking or no braking on her part was a major factor.
The fact that a vehicle rolled a few times tells you the force of impact. That coupled with her state of mind will point to the cause of the accident by Party 1, which is the officer. I hope she left some type of skid marks because if she didn't it will cause some very difficult speculation as to her actions.
Cops and Sheriff's deputies are not exempt from the rules of society but I can tell you that they are pushed, stressed and over worked by Chiefs, Sheriffs, City Council members, County Supervisors and Mayors who have turned police work into a money making business.
Now once again, watch all the cops write in and complain about what I wrote.
#54 Mar 6, 2010
See what did I tell you! That didnt take long. "A Real Cop" Suck that Kool-Aid down slowly, you have a gallon to drink. You would have been a good cult member in Jonestown.
I will not blindly defend anyone just because they are also a cop. This was a very serious accident that involved a lot of people. From what we read, she was a good cop. I dont think anyone disputes that and Im sad for her death no matter how it happened.
But think about my position on this. I listened to John and Ken (640 AM) yesterday and heard a male relative of the guy that just killed that girl near Lake Elsinore. The relative didn't defend that guy, he called it like it was and he was interviewed by the FBI. When John and Ken asked if he thought his nephew did it, he got quiet and said, "I believe in science regardless if he is my relative and from what I understand science coupled with his previous behavior points to his guilt, yes, I believe he did it." He was saddened to answer the question honestly but still answered honestly.
I dont blindly support this officer because she is an officer. I believe the investigation points to her and the investigation will reveal other things that we may not want to hear. I feel sad for her as I would for anyone that is killed in a car accident, but I have told the truth and have been reasonable to all of these citizens that read this. They know that I am being honest when cops like you attack me just like I told the readers you would. I called it and you did it!
You said I am an embarrassment to myself and my profession. Thats interesting. I wonder if any of these citizens reading this would rather have me or you patrolling their neighborhoods. I would actually get out of the car and talk to them on a Saturday afternoon just for the hell of it and to make them feel better about cops.
Where you would drive by and blow them off. I have re-visited families who lost elderly parents or spouses due to natural death in my basic A-Car area weeks later just to see how they are doing. Have you ever done that or were you too busy on your cell phone talking to you girlfriend. "The Truth" shouldn't be scary to you if you are honest.
#55 Mar 6, 2010
I like "The Truth". I agree with all your points. Basically, we're all human whether we wear a badge or not. I'm sure the families of the other victims would love to see the truth come out from this accident.
#56 Mar 6, 2010
Here is a witnesses account of what happened.
From the LA Times:
My wife and I were driving northbound on Grand ave at the time of the accident. We saw the entire thing unfold. The driver of the G37 (vehicle that crossed into oncoming traffic) was obviously doing something that was distracting to them. About a mile or so south of the accident scene we witnessed the G37 driving erratically, constantly changing speeds and swerving. At the time of the accident the G37 was traveling northbound on Grand in the right lane. The G37 gradually swerved to the right striking the curb. The contact with the curb pulled the vehicle to the right. In an attempt to regain control it appeared the driver over corrected. The over correction caused the vehicle to travel across the center divider into oncoming traffic. First contact was made in the left lane of southbound traffic with a small late model pick up truck. The G37 continued to travel into the right lane where it collided with a red 4-door Toyota Tundra. As a result of the collision, the Tundra flipped and rolled 3+ times down the hill coming to rest right side up (thankfully) approximately 75 yards from the point of contact. We immediately pulled over, I asked my wife to call 911 and I ran to the red Tundra. There were 3 females in the truck, all conscious and alert. The driver was able to get out of the vehicle with no apparent injuries. The female in the passenger seat was experiencing some moderate neck and back pain. The third person was in the back seat of the Tundra. Both rear doors were damaged from the accident and would not open. The person in the back seat did sustain at least one laceration to the side of her head. The fire dept took full c-spine precautions with the front seat passenger. Heavy duty equipment was necessary to remove the back seat passenger. It was difficult to tell what was happening with the other vehicles/victims because they were quite a ways back up the hill. I can confirm that a rescue helicopter landed at near by Summitridge Park. I hope this helps shed some light on this terrible situation. Drive safely and DON'T take driving for granted. It only takes a split second for something to go horribly wrong.
#58 Mar 6, 2010
That's exactly what I am. I like pot but can also admit that my views about everything else are pretty conservative. The Truth I think you should be commended on actually stepping up and saying what's really going on. A cop that respect's me and my rights is one that I will gladly give my respect to. I was watching the news about the former cop child molester in Whittier, not ONCE did they say that he once was a cop for the same city in which he's molesting kids. Its outrageous and people need to really open their eyes at REAL issues going on. People die in car crashes everyday. What I should be sad because she's a cop? We will see when/IF the TRUE story come out. I can't wait!
#59 Mar 6, 2010
Couldn't have said it better...I felt the same way
#61 Mar 6, 2010
of all the articles i've read about this horrible accident, the only mention of alchol was that the local sheriff's deputies didn't smell any in the car! your not going to either unless there was an open container you dopes! then maybe you'll catch a whiff. bottom line, was she intoxicated, yes or no? what was the b.a.c.? is there a cover-up? c'mon tribune reporters, ask the tough questions...
#63 Mar 6, 2010
i just want to cry. i'm sooooo sory my prayers are with you.
#64 Mar 6, 2010
My heart goes out to Ofcr. Rodelo-so sorry for your loss. It's nice to see that Ms. Montalvo was respected as a police officer in a tough town. I am sure she was a great lady. Condolences to the LAPD and her family. Godspeed, Sister!
#66 Mar 7, 2010
ROWLAND HEIGHTS - As far as Jerry Rodelo was concerned, his fiancee Jacqueline Montalvo grabbed lunch with friends on Feb. 25 and likely went shopping afterward.
Later that day, Rodelo's boss pulled him aside and told him Montalvo had been killed in a car crash.
"I couldn't believe it," said Rodelo, a Rowland Heights resident. "I didn't want to believe it. I held out hope that it was wrong."
Rodelo, a 15-year officer of the Los Angeles Police Department, had just started his shift at the Hollywood Station, where Montalvo spent most of her career.
Montalvo, also a LAPD officer, was pronounced dead at the scene of a four-car crash in Diamond Bar on that Thursday evening. Investigators haven't figured out what caused her car to swerve across a median into opposing traffic.
Rodelo then frantically sent a text message to Montalvo's sister. He wanted to tell her what happened before anyone else, he said.
"She was my soul mate," Rodelo said of his fiancee. "I'm lost without her. She was my best friend."
Nearly two weeks before, on Valentine's Day, Montalvo, 37, accepted Rodelo's marriage proposal. They weren't in a rush to set the wedding date, he said.
The Monday before the crash, Rodelo and Montalvo left an Ontario boat dealership with a sales contract, excited to buy a new boat for trips to Lake Havasu.
Montalvo, who recently became a patrol officer at the LAPD's Central Station, was remembered as
a sought-after partner.
"New and seasoned officers respected her," Rodelo said.
As a friend, she was "always there and was quick to laugh," he said.
Montalvo went to Schurr High School in Montebello, according to a news report.
What's puzzling to Rodelo and investigators is why Montalvo's car swerved on Grand Avenue near Longview Drive and collided head-on with a pickup truck.
From the car's electronic recorder, investigators hope to figure out how
Jacqueline Montalvo (LAPD)
fast Montalvo's 2009 Infiniti G37 sedan was traveling, said Deputy John Rodriguez, a traffic investigator with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
Investigators are waiting for the coroner's toxicology report, which could take several weeks, they said.
Investigators didn't smell alcohol in Montalvo's car at the scene, said Deputy Russell Townsley of the Traffic Services Detail.
Rodelo said he trusts the investigation but hopes authorities look into the car's mechanics. For the moment, he said he doesn't know what happened to his fiancee that day.
Services for Montalvo are scheduled for today, family members said
Read more: LAPD officer killed in Diamond Bar crash had accepted marriage proposal on Valentine's Day - Whittier Daily News http://www.whittierdailynews.com/ci_14517224...
#69 Mar 7, 2010
Regarding the posts from "Law Abiding Citizen," let me give you a little perspective on a few theories on the state of his psychological foundation.
The individual harbors resentment to authority, especially the very ones he would call in an emergency. A twisted sense of entitlement. The individual may very well have applied to become a law enforcement officer at one time, but was rejected and thus, the manifestation of resentment set in towards law enforcement couple along with the feeling of personal inadequacies. Or his resentment is deep seated from his childhood where he simply did not like to be given boundaries. Either his parents gave him none, or if they did, he did not posses the social skills to conform to the rules of society and therefore, most likely became a bully. The individual's resentment of authority also most likely manifested into an "anti-social" pattern of development. The desire to dominate, fits of internal anger, resentment of those perceived to be achievers or successful, cowardly taunting, anonymous threats and the like, all fit into a specific characteristic pattern that are seen in the posts.
Or the posts were done with the goal of psychopathic "sensationalism." In other words, the individual who possess a tremendous lack of self-esteem can post statements, with complete anonymity, and say, "I can and will write things that will invoke anger into others and there is nothing they can do about it. For once, I'm in control of others. The more I say, the more anger others will feel. Their feelings are irrelevant, only my feelings are important. I have power. Let others feel what I feel every day." The individual simply taunts otherwise rational and stable individuals to react somewhat irrationally (completely normal) to his outrageous statements. This most likely provides the individual with a sense of gratification and empowerment in his otherwise ungratified and unfulfilled world.
My advice to "Law Abiding Citizen," seek counseling.
#70 Mar 7, 2010
LOL..You Pompus Ass!..That semester of "Psychology 101" you took at community college made you a doctor Huh? The cut and paste job you did for your comment was brilliant.
Oh course he is pissed. We probably jacked him up a few times and gave him tickets and fines totaling hundreds of dollars while he watched civic governments blow it all away and be caught in political, sexual or financial scandals. Im angry for him and Im the one who writes the tickets and makes the arrests. How many after tax work hours does it take people to pay fines? 2 days, 3 days, a week?
If he blows off some steam here it may be better than if he were to take it out on someone in real life. The accountability of public servants and authority figures in our society, including teachers, police, fire, council members etc. is seriously flawed as we read stories everyday somewhere in America where these people let us down when they had been waging their finger at us for years.
I work for a Mayor who has cheated on his wife, had affairs with multiple newscasters, eats in Beverly Hills, takes trips to Israel on tax payer's dimes and has run LA into the ground.
Im a cop and I dont like everything "Law Abiding Citizen" has said, but I understand his frustration and that doesn't mean that he's insane or has mental issues. He's getting his licks back at cops on this forum during a tragic time for the officers involved. Not very nice but at least he's not pyhiscally attacking anyone, yet.
He's just angry as are a few others on here like "420 republican."
Put all of this in perspective and let Americans be Americans. They are just venting.
You seem like a communist who wants us all to get in line and be good boys and girls according to the government's plan for us on any given day. Who is making the plan? Bush and Cheney made the plan before and they sucked. The democrats are making the plan right now and gave all our money away to Wall Street.
When we were dumping tea in Boston Harbor, you would have snitched us out to the British, while you conducted your psychoanalysis perspective of us all. This country was built on dissent and I will protect "Law Abiding Citizen's" right to be a jerk and maybe change his mind about all cops versus some cops.
Yea, he's being an ass, I know, but good lord, I don't give it much credence as you have. Go to counseling? Go to a bar, lake, park, game, mountains, etc. with friends and have a good time with people you like and respect. Its cheaper than counseling.
#71 Mar 7, 2010
Based on the outburst of "The Truth" (post number 70) it leads the trained mind to think he and "Law Abiding Citizen" are one in the same. It seems I have hit a nerve, thus validating my "professional" diagnosis. I see some very interesting subliminal, yet overt similarities. My guidance to you is the same, seek counseling. I have put this issue to rest and will not comment futher.
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