State orders audit of Marin family court

State orders audit of Marin family court

There are 870 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Jul 1, 2009, titled State orders audit of Marin family court. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

Prodded by Sen. Mark Leno and other lawmakers, the state Joint Legislative Audit Committee voted Wednesday to investigate the family courts in Marin and Sacramento counties.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Marin Independent Journal.

Mark G

Mill Valley, CA

#367 Oct 13, 2009
courtwatch wrote:
<quoted text>
All "in what" together?
All in the conspiracy you and John O seem to think is happening in the courts. Isn't that what you are saying? Maybe I just don't understand.
courtwatch

Mill Valley, CA

#368 Oct 14, 2009
Mark G wrote:
<quoted text>
All in the conspiracy you and John O seem to think is happening in the courts. Isn't that what you are saying? Maybe I just don't understand.
I am not talking about a conspiracy. I am talking about institutional misconduct, corruption and retaliation by certain members of a well funded ($4 billion) CA judiciary that enjoys virtually absolute immunity, without any meaningful oversight or correction.

Some have gone so far as to liken it to organized crime.

Interesting thought....when judges and court appointees a) can and do, with absolute impunity, immunity, and protection, purposefully and repeatedly violate the law, and b) brutally retaliate against those who complain about or report the lawbreaking activity, what would you call it?
Michael

Mill Valley, CA

#369 Oct 14, 2009
Excerpts from online encyclopedia,under "Organized Crime":

'In order for a criminal organization to prosper, some degree of support is required from the society in which it lives. Thus, it is often necessary to corrupt some of its respected members, most commonly achieved through bribery, blackmail, and the establishment of symbiotic relationships with legitimate businesses. Judicial and police officers and legislators are especially targeted for control by organized crime via bribes.'

'In addition to what is considered traditional organized crime involving direct crimes of fraud swindles, scams, racketeering and other Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) predicate acts motivated for the accumulation of monetary gain, there is also non-traditional organized crime which is engaged in for political or ideological gain or acceptance.'

'Organized crime groups seek out corrupt public officials in executive, law enforcement, and judicial roles so that their activities can avoid, or at least receive early warnings about, investigation and prosecution.'

'Organized crime groups also do a range of business and labor racketeering activities, such as skimming casinos, insider trading, setting up monopolies in industries such as garbage collecting, construction and cement pouring, bid rigging, getting "no-show" and "no-work" jobs, money laundering, political corruption, bullying and ideological clamping.'

'Organized crime groups also provide a range of illegal services and goods, such as... trafficking in human beings.'

'In the modern world, it is difficult to distinguish some corrupt and lawless governments from organized crime gangs.'

"If justice be disregarded, what are states but large bandit bands, and what are bandit bands but small states?... Indeed, that was an apt and true reply which was given to Alexander the Great by a pirate who had been seized. For when that king had asked the man what he meant by keeping hostile possession of the sea, he answered with bold pride,'What you mean by seizing the whole earth; but because I do it with a petty ship, I am called a robber, while you who does it with a great fleet are styled emperor.'--St. Augustine'

Excerpt from the online encyclopedia regarding "racketeering":

Traditionally, the word racket is used to describe a business that is based on the example of the "protection racket" and indicates that the speaker believes that the business is making money by selling a solution to a problem that it created (or that it intentionally allows to continue to exist), specifically so that continuous purchases of the solution are always needed. Example: in a protection racket, a representative from the racket informs a storeowner that a fee of X dollars will be required every month for protection money, though the "protection" that is provided comes in the form of the racket itself not causing damage to the store or its employees.'
Michael

Mill Valley, CA

#370 Oct 14, 2009
Michael wrote:
Excerpts from online encyclopedia,under "Organized Crime":
'In order for a criminal organization to prosper, some degree of support is required from the society in which it lives. Thus, it is often necessary to corrupt some of its respected members, most commonly achieved through bribery, blackmail, and the establishment of symbiotic relationships with legitimate businesses. Judicial and police officers and legislators are especially targeted for control by organized crime via bribes.'
More from online encylopedia Wikipedia:"Symbiosis "

'The symbiotic relationship may be categorized as being mutualistic, parasitic, or commensal in nature. Others define it more narrowly, as only those relationships from which both organisms benefit, in which case it would be synonymous with mutualism.'

'Symbiotic relationships include those associations in which one organism lives on another.... or where one partner lives inside the other....'

'Symbiotic relationships may be either obligate, i.e., necessary for the survival of at least one of the organisms involved, or facultative, where the relationship is beneficial but not essential for survival of the organisms.'

'Mutualism is a biological interaction between two organisms, where each individual derives a fitness benefit (i.e. increased survivorship).... Mutualism and symbiosis are sometimes used as if they are synonymous, but this is strictly incorrect: symbiosis is a broad category, defined to include relationships which are mutualistic, parasitic or commensal. Mutualism is only one type.'

'Commensalism describes a relationship between two living organisms where one benefits and the other is not significantly harmed or helped.'

'A parasitic relationship is one in which one member of the association benefits while the other is harmed'
Mark G

Mill Valley, CA

#371 Oct 14, 2009
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
More from online encylopedia Wikipedia:"Symbiosis "
'The symbiotic relationship may be categorized as being mutualistic, parasitic, or commensal in nature. Others define it more narrowly, as only those relationships from which both organisms benefit, in which case it would be synonymous with mutualism.'
'Symbiotic relationships include those associations in which one organism lives on another.... or where one partner lives inside the other....'
'Symbiotic relationships may be either obligate, i.e., necessary for the survival of at least one of the organisms involved, or facultative, where the relationship is beneficial but not essential for survival of the organisms.'
'Mutualism is a biological interaction between two organisms, where each individual derives a fitness benefit (i.e. increased survivorship).... Mutualism and symbiosis are sometimes used as if they are synonymous, but this is strictly incorrect: symbiosis is a broad category, defined to include relationships which are mutualistic, parasitic or commensal. Mutualism is only one type.'
'Commensalism describes a relationship between two living organisms where one benefits and the other is not significantly harmed or helped.'
'A parasitic relationship is one in which one member of the association benefits while the other is harmed'
OK, I get it. The Marin County court system is kind of like the Mafia.
John Olagues

New Orleans, LA

#372 Oct 16, 2009
They are not like the Mafia.

They have much better publicity agents like the I.J. and the shills who populate this comments site.

And of today I know of no mob-like rub outs of its members.

And they do a much better job of giving the appearance of due process so that the true believing residents will "enjoy their slavery" and cheer when jails are overpopulated by "chum" necessary to the "law enforcement industry".

JO
Mark G

Mill Valley, CA

#374 Nov 1, 2009
Expose-burrill wrote:
Janelle Burrill is being investigated by BBS and Dept of Consumer Affairs – Division of Investigation.
Real Evidence has exposed her fraud and criminal conduct in the courts. If you have evidence of Burrills lying, manipulations and fraudulent practices pls send them asap to
Senior Investigator, Department of Consumer Affairs
Division of Investigation, 444 North 3rd Street, Suite 201, Sacramento, CA 95811
Sacramento & Placer County District Attorneys have all this real evidence and are also investigating criminal conduct, purjury by Burrill. Please be factual and provide real evidence to all if you are Burrills victim.
Justice will prevail – Burrill’s LCSW licence will be revoked eventually. She is truly exposed now with real evidence. Supplement the current investigation and provide true facts to the investigator. All of Burrills so called “PAS BS reports” from her career will be thrown out along with her. The AG’s accusation will become public as soon as it is filed.
Civil Lawsuit Attorneys (Class Action Lawsuit Opportunity)– Pls check the status for Jannelle Burrill LCS 16216 at BBS Licence verification. Her assets are as big as her fraud and criminal conduct. Vicitms of Burrill – Help is on the way.
Who's Jannelle Burrill? Does she have something to do with Marin Co?
Facts

Foster City, CA

#375 Nov 3, 2009
"Who's Jannelle Burrill? Does she have something to do with Marin Co?"

No she is in Sacramento
Cal_law

San Diego, CA

#376 Nov 3, 2009
Is there a convenient way to check on the status of the Audit? Will the results be transparent?

Also, is there any relation to this and the ombuds provision in the Elkins Task Force final draft? Thanks
pollyanna

Mill Valley, CA

#377 Nov 6, 2009
Today notice went out that the Marin County Bar Association is hosting a holiday party on December 10, 2009, thanking Marin County Commissioner Beverly Wood for her service on the Marin Family Court bench (1/07-12/09), and welcoming Commissioner Randolph Heubach (back) to that same bench as of January, 2010. Randy left the Marin Family Law bench in late 2003, and Bev was officially assigned to the Marin Family Law bench in January, 2007.

FYI, court commissioners are neither appointed, nor elected. They are hired by, and serve at the pleasure of, the Superior Court judges who hire them. In other words, they are NOT independent—they are dependent upon those who hire them.

Commissioner Heubach was very good in the Marin Family Court, until he inexplicably went shockingly sideways in a number of high-profile, very political Marin County cases (some say that at the time he had compromising personal issues). Commissioner Wood started out terribly, as she dutifully (and perhaps even enthusiastically)“towed the party line” in a number of high-profile, very political Marin family law cases—but ended up being a kick-ass settlement judge, who, in non-political cases, on her own measured terms, was an absolute pleasure to work with.

The bottom line: Money, politics, personalities, campaign contributions, employer preferences, and personal preferences/considerations/all egiances have no place in a bench officer’s courtroom. The law, and the facts of the case, must rule. Any other courtroom scenario results in bad judgment corrupting potentially good bench officers.

Let’s send Commissioner Wood off to her new courtroom assignment, and welcome Commissioner Heubach back to his old assignment, with the best, most ethical, wishes for each of them, and all those who appear before them.
Mark G

Mill Valley, CA

#379 Nov 7, 2009
pollyanna wrote:
Today notice went out that the Marin County Bar Association is hosting a holiday party on December 10, 2009, thanking Marin County Commissioner Beverly Wood for her service on the Marin Family Court bench (1/07-12/09), and welcoming Commissioner Randolph Heubach (back) to that same bench as of January, 2010. Randy left the Marin Family Law bench in late 2003, and Bev was officially assigned to the Marin Family Law bench in January, 2007.
FYI, court commissioners are neither appointed, nor elected. They are hired by, and serve at the pleasure of, the Superior Court judges who hire them. In other words, they are NOT independent—they are dependent upon those who hire them.
Commissioner Heubach was very good in the Marin Family Court, until he inexplicably went shockingly sideways in a number of high-profile, very political Marin County cases (some say that at the time he had compromising personal issues). Commissioner Wood started out terribly, as she dutifully (and perhaps even enthusiastically)“towed the party line” in a number of high-profile, very political Marin family law cases—but ended up being a kick-**** settlement judge, who, in non-political cases, on her own measured terms, was an absolute pleasure to work with.
The bottom line: Money, politics, personalities, campaign contributions, employer preferences, and personal preferences/considerations/all egiances have no place in a bench officer’s courtroom. The law, and the facts of the case, must rule. Any other courtroom scenario results in bad judgment corrupting potentially good bench officers.
Let’s send Commissioner Wood off to her new courtroom assignment, and welcome Commissioner Heubach back to his old assignment, with the best, most ethical, wishes for each of them, and all those who appear before them.
This is just McCarthyism, plain and simple. You do not present any facts to support your vile personal attacks against these judges. It's no different than those people who are running around right now carrying posters of President Obama with a Hitler mustache.
courtwatch

Mill Valley, CA

#380 Nov 8, 2009
Mark G wrote:
<quoted text>
This is just McCarthyism, plain and simple. You do not present any facts to support your vile personal attacks against these judges. It's no different than those people who are running around right now carrying posters of President Obama with a Hitler mustache.
I tried posting before, maybe it was too long. So I edited and tried again, but still it didn't post. I will try again.

"Mark G", first, I think you should refresh your memory or do a little research about McCarthyism, and who was doing what to whom. You sound very much like someone back in the day who, in furtherance of his or her own self interest, would point a finger and scream "commie-pinko" at anyone exercising their constitutionally protected rights to criticize --or even simply discuss-- governmental policies and political figures.

Second, your reference to Hitler in a Marin context is interesting, but for reasons you clearly did not intend. There is no doubt that our family and juvenile courts have been effecting serious social change in the last decade or two. Some people have compared what has gone on in the family and juvenile courts (children being suddenly, brutally and systematically stripped of their loving, protective parents)--to Hitler's Lebensborn. Those who complain about the courts are retaliated against, and are accused of all kinds of things. I am confident that this can and will be sorted out, and a much-needed correction in the legal system will take place, although this will take time. As I have said, Americans will not long tolerate oppression, or the unrestrained destruction of their lives, families and children by wayward judges and court appointees who have way too much power, and no effective oversight.

Third, why don't you do a little survey of our Marin bench members, and their spouses and family members, and ask if they want their own specific personal histories of addictions, afflictions, domestic violence, mental health issues, and/or problematic behavior in certain cases directly or indirectly involving themselves or family members, aired, in detail, on this blog. Then, why don't you get back to all of us with the answers. Maybe Pollyanna or others reading this blog have details they are willing to share, if the bench officers have no objection. Is that what you want?

My personal reading of Pollyanna's message was a positive one, reflecting an open mind and optimistic belief that Marin bench members, including but not limited to Wood and Huebach, who, for whatever reasons, may have gotten caught up in Marin politics and/or entangled personal considerations, can at ANY point decide to do the right thing in EVERY case--and that is, decide each case based on the facts and the law, rather than politics and personal considerations.
Evanlee J Perth

AOL

#381 Nov 10, 2009
Family court abuse is occuring all over the US-it is rampant, and destroying lives. Children traumatized by abuse then by court personnel who minimize and deny allegations of abuse, then place them in the hands of dangerous abusers may never fully recover.

This has happened to my family. I lost both of my child to a man who attacked me then threw both children out on the streets (changed the locks to our home), causing us to be homeless & living in the lowest levels of poverty. My appeals for child support were denied, it was the charity of others that kept us surviving. I could not work because one child was so traumatized that he developed severe emotional problems and eventually had to be hospitalized after he became violent, suicidal and out of cointrol.

This audit is a step in the right direction but more needs to be done to protect victims of abuse, and to ensure a system of accountability in family court.

My Blog Parenting Abused Kids:

http://parentingabusedkids.wordpress.com/
courtwatch

San Rafael, CA

#382 Nov 11, 2009
Marlene Getchell, the current president of the Marin County Bar Association (“MCBA”), weighed in on this family court blog in the 11/2009 issue of “The Marin Lawyer”.

She likened people posting about Family Court on this blog, to Kanye West complaining that Beyonce did not win Best Female Video.

Family court is not the music awards. It can be one of the most dangerous, heartwrenching, and least predictable places a family can set foot in.

Imagine the extreme shock a person –any person, be it attorney, litigant, bystander, witness or anyone else--feels, when they first watch a judge or court appointee blithely and purposefully ignore the law, in the process of stripping someone of their beloved child. Now imagine watching it happen over and over again—the names change, the dynamic is the same.

Respect is earned, not demanded. And, as Lord Chesterfield told his son, you must be respectable, if you will be respected.

During the April 6, 2009 Judicial Council Elkins Task Force hearings, professionals and litigants from all over the state reported that Family Law judges and court appointees are routinely refusing to follow the law. In fact, the Elkins case specifically acknowledged and addressed the fact that Family Courts were NOT following the law.

Our judges and their bar association defenders have repeatedly –and for more than a decade--characterized devastated parents (with no history of addictions, abuse, criminal acts, etc.) who object to having been stripped of their children, and bankrupted in the process (by being forced to pay a whole host of experts, therapists, coparenting counselors, minor’s counsel, visitation supervisors, etc.) as “disgruntled litigants”, and “mentally ill”.

Heck, Beth Jordan (MCBA president-in waiting) told a Sacramento newspaper that the Marin-based Center for Judicial Excellence was “a group of disgruntled litigants”, which it most decidedly is not. Check out the CJE’s stellar board.

And what about the reports that certain of our judges have “shopped” pleadings from some of the most political cases, to members of our board of supervisors, and others?

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones, and our judges have had a field day lobbing boulders at court critics.

I think Ms. Getchell ought to have a little open house at her office, so the parents and professionals who are concerned about our family courts can enlighten her. She better bring her Kleenex.

And the court, and its defenders, should think long and hard before threatening to silence legitimate concerns about our courts, with threats of sanctions and disbarment. This is still the United States, right?
Mark G

Mill Valley, CA

#383 Nov 11, 2009
courtwatch wrote:
<quoted text>
I tried posting before, maybe it was too long. So I edited and tried again, but still it didn't post. I will try again.
"Mark G", first, I think you should refresh your memory or do a little research about McCarthyism, and who was doing what to whom. You sound very much like someone back in the day who, in furtherance of his or her own self interest, would point a finger and scream " ****-pinko" at anyone exercising their constitutionally protected rights to criticize --or even simply discuss-- governmental policies and political figures.
Second, your reference to Hitler in a Marin context is interesting, but for reasons you clearly did not intend. There is no doubt that our family and juvenile courts have been effecting serious social change in the last decade or two. Some people have compared what has gone on in the family and juvenile courts (children being suddenly, brutally and systematically stripped of their loving, protective parents)--to Hitler's Lebensborn. Those who complain about the courts are retaliated against, and are accused of all kinds of things. I am confident that this can and will be sorted out, and a much-needed correction in the legal system will take place, although this will take time. As I have said, Americans will not long tolerate oppression, or the unrestrained destruction of their lives, families and children by wayward judges and court appointees who have way too much power, and no effective oversight.
Third, why don't you do a little survey of our Marin bench members, and their spouses and family members, and ask if they want their own specific personal histories of addictions, afflictions, domestic violence, mental health issues, and/or problematic behavior in certain cases directly or indirectly involving themselves or family members, aired, in detail, on this blog. Then, why don't you get back to all of us with the answers. Maybe Pollyanna or others reading this blog have details they are willing to share, if the bench officers have no objection. Is that what you want?
My personal reading of Pollyanna's message was a positive one, reflecting an open mind and optimistic belief that Marin bench members, including but not limited to Wood and Huebach, who, for whatever reasons, may have gotten caught up in Marin politics and/or entangled personal considerations, can at ANY point decide to do the right thing in EVERY case--and that is, decide each case based on the facts and the law, rather than politics and personal considerations.
Thank you for proving my point. Senator McCarthy stood up in front of the press and said that he had in his hand the names of about 200 communists in the State Department. He didn't actually have anything of the sort and was proven to be a liar.

Pollyanna, Courtwatch, and a bunch of others on this forum make defamatory statements about judges, commissioners and mediators, but don't have any facts to support their spurious claims. It's easy to lie when you are anonymous. It is also really easy to smear people who can't defend themselves, just like Joe McCarthy.

Then, when I joke that Pollyanna's bizarre statement is similar to the lunatics who are running around with Obama as Hitler posters, Courtwatch, says...judges are just like Nazis! You couldn't make this stuff up.
Curious

Mill Valley, CA

#384 Nov 11, 2009
Evanlee J Perth wrote:
Family court abuse is occuring all over the US-it is rampant, and destroying lives. Children traumatized by abuse then by court personnel who minimize and deny allegations of abuse, then place them in the hands of dangerous abusers may never fully recover.
This has happened to my family. I lost both of my child to a man who attacked me then threw both children out on the streets (changed the locks to our home), causing us to be homeless & living in the lowest levels of poverty. My appeals for child support were denied, it was the charity of others that kept us surviving. I could not work because one child was so traumatized that he developed severe emotional problems and eventually had to be hospitalized after he became violent, suicidal and out of cointrol.
This audit is a step in the right direction but more needs to be done to protect victims of abuse, and to ensure a system of accountability in family court.
My Blog Parenting Abused Kids:
http://parentingabusedkids.wordpress.com/
I am not familiar with your personal case, but the information on your website shows that this is a national problem. What is going to be interesting is to see, on a grand scale, the longterm fall-out of what the juvenile and family courts are doing. Children exposed to abuse often become adult victims or abusers themselves. Imagine being a child suddenly taken from a loving non-abusive parent, and placed with an abusive parent, by adults who are supposed to protect children, not place them at risk. Now take it a step further, and imagine you, the child, being used by the abuser as a tool to further torment your non-abusive parent.(Abuser to non abuser: "If you don't do what I say, and jump through these hoops, and those hoops, and stop complaining about it, you won't see your child at all. By the way, haven't you learned your lesson yet?"). That is what our courts are forcing children and loving parents to endure. Children are being endangered, and harmed, in many different ways. Ultimately they are being taught that they will not be protected from their abusers, that the non-abuser will never win, so the child better "learn the lesson" themselves, and stop complaining, for self-preservation. Interesting message to be teaching children. Yes, accountability is long overdue.
courtwatch

Mill Valley, CA

#385 Nov 11, 2009
Mark G wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for proving my point. Senator McCarthy stood up in front of the press and said that he had in his hand the names of about 200 communists in the State Department. He didn't actually have anything of the sort and was proven to be a liar.
Pollyanna, Courtwatch, and a bunch of others on this forum make defamatory statements about judges, commissioners and mediators, but don't have any facts to support their spurious claims. It's easy to lie when you are anonymous. It is also really easy to smear people who can't defend themselves, just like Joe McCarthy.
Then, when I joke that Pollyanna's bizarre statement is similar to the lunatics who are running around with Obama as Hitler posters, Courtwatch, says...judges are just like Nazis! You couldn't make this stuff up.
Mark G, you say you were "joking" about Hitler? Is that like our MCBA president callously comparing our Marin Family Court to music awards ceremonies, and Marin parents who have lost their children at the hands of certain of our infamously, historically, conflicted family law bench officers and court appointees, to Kanye West?

In any event, what has gone on in our family court is no joke and is reflected in trial transcripts and declarations of court appointees, orders of our bench officers, economic disclosures on file at the courthouse, and/or assorted other documents.

So I invite you to read this blog from beginning to end, and tell me precisely what I have written that you believe is a "lie". I have been pretty specific, and ask that you also be specific. Fair enough?
Mark G

Mill Valley, CA

#386 Nov 13, 2009
courtwatch wrote:
<quoted text>
Mark G, you say you were "joking" about Hitler? Is that like our MCBA president callously comparing our Marin Family Court to music awards ceremonies, and Marin parents who have lost their children at the hands of certain of our infamously, historically, conflicted family law bench officers and court appointees, to Kanye West?
In any event, what has gone on in our family court is no joke and is reflected in trial transcripts and declarations of court appointees, orders of our bench officers, economic disclosures on file at the courthouse, and/or assorted other documents.
So I invite you to read this blog from beginning to end, and tell me precisely what I have written that you believe is a "lie". I have been pretty specific, and ask that you also be specific. Fair enough?
So, what's worse? Joking that people are post on this forum are like the lunatics who carry posters of Obama with a Hitler mustache or comparing Marin County judges to Nazis.

To me, the latter is an indication of how absolutely crazy this forum has become.

As for lies, well, it's hard to know how to answer without knowing the facts of the cases you folks seem to be discussing. But, for a start, I would say that any reference to a "conspiracy" in Marin County is about as ridiculous as you can get. References to judicial officers personal problems as a cause of allegedly bad decisions comes close.

I don't know, Courtwatch, if you are one of those disgruntled litigants, maybe your attorney made a mistake. It happens. Maybe you are a big part of the problem yourself. Who knows?
BGHOZ

United States

#387 Nov 13, 2009
Michael wrote:
Excerpts from online encyclopedia,under "Organized Crime":
'In order for a criminal organization to prosper, some degree of support is required from the society in which it lives. Thus, it is often necessary to corrupt some of its respected members, most commonly achieved through bribery, blackmail, and the establishment of symbiotic relationships with legitimate businesses. Judicial and police officers and legislators are especially targeted for control by organized crime via bribes.'
'In addition to what is considered traditional organized crime involving direct crimes of fraud swindles, scams, racketeering and other Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) predicate acts motivated for the accumulation of monetary gain, there is also non-traditional organized crime which is engaged in for political or ideological gain or acceptance.'
'Organized crime groups seek out corrupt public officials in executive, law enforcement, and judicial roles so that their activities can avoid, or at least receive early warnings about, investigation and prosecution.'
'Organized crime groups also do a range of business and labor racketeering activities, such as skimming casinos, insider trading, setting up monopolies in industries such as garbage collecting, construction and cement pouring, bid rigging, getting "no-show" and "no-work" jobs, money laundering, political corruption, bullying and ideological clamping.'
'Organized crime groups also provide a range of illegal services and goods, such as... trafficking in human beings.'
'In the modern world, it is difficult to distinguish some corrupt and lawless governments from organized crime gangs.'
"If justice be disregarded, what are states but large bandit bands, and what are bandit bands but small states?... Indeed, that was an apt and true reply which was given to Alexander the Great by a pirate who had been seized. For when that king had asked the man what he meant by keeping hostile possession of the sea, he answered with bold pride,'What you mean by seizing the whole earth; but because I do it with a petty ship, I am called a robber, while you who does it with a great fleet are styled emperor.'--St. Augustine'
Excerpt from the online encyclopedia regarding "racketeering":
Traditionally, the word racket is used to describe a business that is based on the example of the "protection racket" and indicates that the speaker believes that the business is making money by selling a solution to a problem that it created (or that it intentionally allows to continue to exist), specifically so that continuous purchases of the solution are always needed. Example: in a protection racket, a representative from the racket informs a storeowner that a fee of X dollars will be required every month for protection money, though the "protection" that is provided comes in the form of the racket itself not causing damage to the store or its employees.'
PS...watch out for those coyotes they can be dangerous....
courtwatch

Mill Valley, CA

#388 Nov 13, 2009
Mark G wrote:
<quoted text>
So, what's worse? Joking that people are post on this forum are like the lunatics who carry posters of Obama with a Hitler mustache or comparing Marin County judges to Nazis.
To me, the latter is an indication of how absolutely crazy this forum has become.
As for lies, well, it's hard to know how to answer without knowing the facts of the cases you folks seem to be discussing. But, for a start, I would say that any reference to a "conspiracy" in Marin County is about as ridiculous as you can get. References to judicial officers personal problems as a cause of allegedly bad decisions comes close.
I don't know, Courtwatch, if you are one of those disgruntled litigants, maybe your attorney made a mistake. It happens. Maybe you are a big part of the problem yourself. Who knows?
"Mark G", you are speaking in generalities, and I don't know to what you are referring. Please be specific. Respond to my posts, one by one (and you do know how, right?), pointing out the "lies". Otherwise don't accuse me of lying. Thank you.

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