Concern raised over Bible class enrol...

Concern raised over Bible class enrollment

There are 434 comments on the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin story from Sep 20, 2010, titled Concern raised over Bible class enrollment. In it, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin reports that:

A class studying the Bible as literature in three Chino Valley district schools has drawn criticism from parents who questioned the necessity of the class.

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Shannon

Corona, CA

#1 Sep 20, 2010
Good for the school district, principal, and the supporters of these classes! Whether some like it or not, our country was founded on Christian principals and the Bible. It's our history, plain and simple...why deny our children their history? No one has the right to say we cannot teach our children our country's history! It's our most important history lesson!!! And those who keep twisting "separation of church and state" don't even know where it came from...it was just a statement in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson. It is NOT included anywhere in the Constitution. People keep throwing it around like it's a law when it's not. It is just used in court arguments as a legal principle and has been viciously abused by the legal system. Stop denying those who sincerely want to learn these important elements of what our country was founded on, and get on with your own lives.
Carole

Cerritos, CA

#2 Sep 20, 2010
Praise God for His intercession... I remember being 6 and 7 and having prayer along with the pledge each morning. Its a blessing to see this taking place. My son graduated from that school
2 years ago. It would have been nice to have had the class offered then, but now is God's timing. I pray for peace and acceptance by the community; all students have a right to choose the classes they wish to take, and there is a wide variety to choose from... something for all.
Jason

Venice, CA

#3 Sep 20, 2010
Eww. I need to move back to a real city.
Little me

Kapolei, HI

#4 Sep 20, 2010
The district and principal are wrong to support a sparsely enrolled class that is irrelevant to most students while AP classes, which are critical for college, are bulging at the seams. It would serve students better to have an additional math or English class. The Bible as lit is offered in college. Take it then or better yet, learn about it in church. Isn't that the point of going to church?

What if the class had been about the Koran? I'll bet the religious right would be clamoring for the removal of the class.
CARLTONDAN

Corona, CA

#5 Sep 20, 2010
HEY JASON.....YOU NEED TO MOVE PERIOD.
David Mikhtam

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#6 Sep 20, 2010
The very book that was the primer of the founding fathers and the foundation of many ivy league Universities is not good enough for High School?....continue the illiteracy then and don't complain that todays students can't think logically.
Real person

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#7 Sep 20, 2010
This class has no place in public schools and being taught on my dime. It needs to be eliminated, the sooner the better, and replaced with a REAL class.
Aequitas

Orange, CA

#8 Sep 20, 2010
David Mikhtam wrote:
The very book that was the primer of the founding fathers and the foundation of many ivy league Universities is not good enough for High School?....continue the illiteracy then and don't complain that todays students can't think logically.
Stop making sense!!!!

It only confuses the psuedo-intellectuals which populate the Chino Valley Unified School District.
P Olson

Claremont, CA

#9 Sep 20, 2010
David Mikhtam wrote:
The very book that was the primer of the founding fathers and the foundation of many ivy league Universities is not good enough for High School?....continue the illiteracy then and don't complain that todays students can't think logically.
Thank you David, previously I thought the highest and best use of the bible was as kindling. Now that I realize the bible is to be used as a case study of fallacious reasoning to teach students to think logically I fully support the class.
WOW

United States

#10 Sep 20, 2010
About time
S Moore

Upland, CA

#11 Sep 20, 2010
Congratulations P Olson...I suppose you also support the crazy in Florida that had planned to burn the Koran. I take it your not a believing person (just a hunch)and thats fine. Please remember that "kindling", as you so eloquently put it, is the base of why you have the freedom to give your opinion. You're welcome to ride on the coattails of our founding fathers believer or not. Mr. Mikhtam was right.
As for Little Me....are you serious??? Had the Koran been the focus of this article I'm quite sure the ACLU or some other civil rights group would take up the cause and sue the district for even considering getting rid of the class. Wonder if they would do the same for the Bible? NOT A CHANCE.
donna

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#12 Sep 20, 2010
Remember when we had freedom of religion in our schools and were allowed prayer. Our country was a Christian nation. We have allowed our Christian rights to be condemed by silence. Just remember God is in control and it is a narrow pathway to heaven. Kids are using drugs in gangs and practicing sex at such a young age and your worried about the Bible being taught in school.
P Olson

Claremont, CA

#13 Sep 20, 2010
S Moore wrote:
Congratulations P Olson...I suppose you also support the crazy in Florida that had planned to burn the Koran. I take it your not a believing person (just a hunch)and thats fine. Please remember that "kindling", as you so eloquently put it, is the base of why you have the freedom to give your opinion. You're welcome to ride on the coattails of our founding fathers believer or not. Mr. Mikhtam was right.
As for Little Me....are you serious??? Had the Koran been the focus of this article I'm quite sure the ACLU or some other civil rights group would take up the cause and sue the district for even considering getting rid of the class. Wonder if they would do the same for the Bible? NOT A CHANCE.
I would support the right of the "crazy in Florida" to burn the Koran, but not his reason for doing so. Though you may find it had to believe there is little if anything the ACLU has done that I would support. The only thing I do not support is what I feel will be an overtly religious course in a public school. I am sure the school board has been careful to phrase the course syllabus in a way designed to pass legal challenges. However, it is obvious from published comments that supporters hope it teaches their view of the bible, not just another critical course on literature. As to the views of the founders, they were all men of their times and many were simply deists which would have been much more radical than being atheistic today. The ideas that this country was founded upon came from both the Age of Reason and the Enlightenment when mankind began to throw off the shackles of servitude to mysticism that still animates Judeo-Christian-Islamic thought today. That being said I will always support your right to worship as you please as long as it remains outside the public school classroom.
LAA

Chino Hills, CA

#14 Sep 20, 2010
The class would have had much larger numbers but there was a mistake in enrollment when the school allowed Juniors to enroll. The Juniors were dropped leaving a small number in the class. Next year the class will have higher numbers. This is an elective course that no one is required to take.
ch resident

San Jacinto, CA

#15 Sep 20, 2010
It's interesting how the district won't allow less than 30 kids in an elementary school class, but will allow such low enrollment in this class. Not against the bible class, but how about some equity?
Non-atheist

Moreno Valley, CA

#16 Sep 21, 2010
From what I understand, Calvary Chapel members regularly attend worship service with their Bibles in hand. They also have their children enroll in Sunday School, Junior High and High School ministries. From all intents and purposes, they all are very knowledgeable of the Bible. So why are they so interested in getting a Bible as Literature course into the the public school system?
Joe moma

Ontario, CA

#17 Sep 21, 2010
This shouldn't be taught at school, they have church for that !!!!! Remove it ASAP !!
Joe moma

Ontario, CA

#18 Sep 21, 2010
donna wrote:
Remember when we had freedom of religion in our schools and were allowed prayer. Our country was a Christian nation. We have allowed our Christian rights to be condemed by silence. Just remember God is in control and it is a narrow pathway to heaven. Kids are using drugs in gangs and practicing sex at such a young age and your worried about the Bible being taught in school.
No reason to teach fairy tales in our schools !!!!!!!!!! Separation of church and state !!! Wnat to learn about the bible (fairy tales) Then pick a church of your choice...not oue schools !!!
Joe moma

Ontario, CA

#19 Sep 21, 2010
Shannon wrote:
Good for the school district, principal, and the supporters of these classes! Whether some like it or not, our country was founded on Christian principals and the Bible. It's our history, plain and simple...why deny our children their history? No one has the right to say we cannot teach our children our country's history! It's our most important history lesson!!! And those who keep twisting "separation of church and state" don't even know where it came from...it was just a statement in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson. It is NOT included anywhere in the Constitution. People keep throwing it around like it's a law when it's not. It is just used in court arguments as a legal principle and has been viciously abused by the legal system. Stop denying those who sincerely want to learn these important elements of what our country was founded on, and get on with your own lives.
If that's your thinking, then where's the classes for Jews, Muslums, and all that other crappy religions ? It should stay out of taxpayer classrooms period. I don't want to pay taxes for your kids to learn about that.....go to church of your choice and learn all you want !!!!
Read Something Different

Chino, CA

#20 Sep 21, 2010
I love the Commenters who use multiple punctuation points to convey their outrage. "!!!!" or "???" The funniest columnists at the IVDB are working these Comment Boards.

All that being said, Americans in the past shared a knowledge of The Bible, some Greek and Roman literature and of course, Shakespeare!!!

Do you really want to live in a culture built by people who share a knowledge of "The Simpsons," "South Park" and "Star Trek???"

If the class inspires one kid to ponder the wisdom of the Ancient World, it might be worthwhile.

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