Holly Bobo Case Solved

Since: May 12

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#265 Mar 27, 2013
Fed_the_F_up wrote:
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Bobo side has family in FL but not aware of LB moving there.
FTFU you have been consistent in defending the family, but you've always presented the defense through reason and logic more than unsubstantiated emotion - IMO. I've appreciated your contributions.

Lately it appears your remarks are not as much analytical as they are self-assured relying on the insider information that you cannot disclose. I can understand not being able to disclose entrusted secrets. I am curious however - is this situation with HB's case to the point that you do not have access to the reason and logic that you once used, and you are forced to rely on this secret knowledge as your defense for lack of interactive and exploratory dialogue?

Genuinely not trying to be disrespectful, and hope I didn't come across that way to you.

Since: Feb 13

Decaturville, TN

#266 Mar 28, 2013
Fatjackntrixie wrote:
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Right neighborly of you to come on a public forum and gossip about them. Bet they'd bump you to the top of the Christmas card list if they knew what a good friend you're being. You "churchies" cover this kind gossip under the guise of "sharing", though, so no worries that you'll suffer any eternal damnation.
Nothing gossipy in my post. I stated that I had been in church with them (and others) and I quoted KB and DB as to what they said on TV. I said they have faith and hope. Nothing gossipy.

Gossip is something that you hear and you know you shouldn't repeat but it's so juicy you can't help yourself. None of that mess applies to what I said.

Hallelujah and Amen.

Since: Feb 13

Decaturville, TN

#267 Mar 28, 2013
kas61 wrote:
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IMO that is a completely natural thing for the family to do ... hope and have faith that she is alive if they haven't had any evidence to the contrary. I'm sure at this point they may feel that is all they have left. Regardless, whether Holly is 3 or 30, she is still Karen's child. Unless she physically sees Holly's deceased body, I believe she will always hold on to that hope that her daughter is out there somewhere. She won't stop looking. I don't believe she could even if she tried. As a mother myself, I understand that.
What else would a family do? Give up without answers? No no no no no. I think I would act the same. I'm sure there are fears but giving up is not an option as long as there is no conclusion.

Since: Jan 13

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#268 Mar 28, 2013
Prayer Brings Peace wrote:
Maybe those in the know can shed some light on just why they might be going to Nashville so much? That IS where Holly was allegedly taken -- Vanderbilt. Hmmm.....interesting! I might just try looking into all the rooms there the next time I have to go to Vandy, which isn't all that far away. Then, if I find Holly, I can collect that 85,000 reward. Hmm....
You'd spend the rest of your natural life checking out rooms at Vandy! Do you know how big that place is? My guess is that if Holly were badly injured--like with a head injury that required rehab--that she would be transferred to more of a rehab facility instead of a hospital. Most hospitals don't keep you that long anymore! You get your week or two there, and then you go home, to long-term care, a nursing home, or hospice.

The more I consider the behavior of all parties, I think it could be a real possibility that she's alive and being protected. I think she might resurface when and if she can testify to all the details of that day! JMO, of course!

Since: Feb 13

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#269 Mar 28, 2013
ItsAFactJack-- wrote:
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You'd spend the rest of your natural life checking out rooms at Vandy! Do you know how big that place is? My guess is that if Holly were badly injured--like with a head injury that required rehab--that she would be transferred to more of a rehab facility instead of a hospital. Most hospitals don't keep you that long anymore! You get your week or two there, and then you go home, to long-term care, a nursing home, or hospice.
The more I consider the behavior of all parties, I think it could be a real possibility that she's alive and being protected. I think she might resurface when and if she can testify to all the details of that day! JMO, of course!
That was more tongue in cheek. I go to Vandy every three months to get shots for my back and knee. I do know how big that place is, and it would be relatively impossible to find someone there without some knowledge of the type of injury they had.

I've been up most of the night, going back and watching old interviews and news magazine type shows to see if there is anything there we may have missed.

It seems that early on,(within a week of Holly's disappearance) people thought about a PC theory, or someone who just walked off from her life. I don't know, but I just can't get with either of those theories completely.

I cannot get past the 'lack of tears.' I know I've mentioned this before. But the 'dry' sniffles, and the fact there are NO tears at the 'plea' to her daughter's kidnapper. Her make-up is perfect, no runs, and she does not have puffy eyes. It all just feels too staged. As I've said before, I could understand if she'd cried so much, she simply did not have any tears left. But why TRY to cry and not be able to? And if she'd cried so much she couldn't cry anymore, it looks like there would be a puffiness to her eyes.

I know, as everyone knows, there's just more than meets the eye here. I don't really buy a PC theory, but it looks like the only thing that would account for NO TEARS. Of course, there are those who adamantly deny that is the case.(The PC theory) But how else can you explain the absence of tears if your daughter is missing and you have no idea where she is or her condition?

Since: Jan 13

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#270 Mar 28, 2013
Prayer Brings Peace wrote:
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That was more tongue in cheek. I go to Vandy every three months to get shots for my back and knee. I do know how big that place is, and it would be relatively impossible to find someone there without some knowledge of the type of injury they had.
I've been up most of the night, going back and watching old interviews and news magazine type shows to see if there is anything there we may have missed.
It seems that early on,(within a week of Holly's disappearance) people thought about a PC theory, or someone who just walked off from her life. I don't know, but I just can't get with either of those theories completely.
I cannot get past the 'lack of tears.' I know I've mentioned this before. But the 'dry' sniffles, and the fact there are NO tears at the 'plea' to her daughter's kidnapper. Her make-up is perfect, no runs, and she does not have puffy eyes. It all just feels too staged. As I've said before, I could understand if she'd cried so much, she simply did not have any tears left. But why TRY to cry and not be able to? And if she'd cried so much she couldn't cry anymore, it looks like there would be a puffiness to her eyes.
I know, as everyone knows, there's just more than meets the eye here. I don't really buy a PC theory, but it looks like the only thing that would account for NO TEARS. Of course, there are those who adamantly deny that is the case.(The PC theory) But how else can you explain the absence of tears if your daughter is missing and you have no idea where she is or her condition?
I knew you were somewhat joking! But I think all of us who truly care about the case have been tempted to do our own searches, since nobody is telling the public anything.

I've watched that interview multiple times! I did not get the feeling that K was faking, and D seemed sincere and believable! However, when LW ( I believe it was) pointed out that she seemed angry, that rang true! She was sniffing, and that seemed to be involuntary--kind of like a very upset child does after a good cry.

I just really cannot reconcile all the behaviors of folks with this case. If the Bobo's were part of a big conspiracy to spirit Holly away to protect her from something or someone, why would they continue to print flyers, search, and follow up on leads? They could have easily faded into the sunset, and no one would have thought anything about it. We rarely hear from victim's families when years have passed.

If, on the other hand, the family perpetrated some type of fraud, I can't imagine TBI and other agencies just letting that slide and not setting the record straight. Sure, local officials anywhere can be "bought off" or do "favors" for folks in their immediate areas. But I can't think of a good reason that state and federal LE would cover for an average family like the Bobo's.

For those two reasons alone, I think that Holly was really taken by someone. I haven't decided yet if I believe she was found at some point and was stashed away. I feel more has to be revealed before that can be determined. JMO, MOO

Since: Jan 12

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#272 Mar 28, 2013
deesnutz_n_dc wrote:
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FTFU you have been consistent in defending the family, but you've always presented the defense through reason and logic more than unsubstantiated emotion - IMO. I've appreciated your contributions.
Lately it appears your remarks are not as much analytical as they are self-assured relying on the insider information that you cannot disclose. I can understand not being able to disclose entrusted secrets. I am curious however - is this situation with HB's case to the point that you do not have access to the reason and logic that you once used, and you are forced to rely on this secret knowledge as your defense for lack of interactive and exploratory dialogue?
Genuinely not trying to be disrespectful, and hope I didn't come across that way to you.
No disrespect taken-

It gets old when everything you say gets twisted and people assume shit that is way off. They cant make sense of it so they assume the worst and judge based on their crazy assumptions. I think that is what has changed and added more emotion to my posts but you wont hear me ever trash Karen, Clint or Dana on here. I don't agree with everything and cant say I understand everything they have said or done but I know for a fact that they are going through a living hell every single day and barely hanging on right now. Karen prays to God he will just kill her and put her out of her misery. Their pain and consistent nightmare is very very real.

I don't think there is a way to discuss this situation responsibly on a public forum or with people who do not have local knowledge. That's just my opinion though.

Since: Feb 10

Huntsville, AL

#274 Mar 28, 2013
Prayer Brings Peace wrote:
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A good example is the road that leads to the "Old Furnace". That road is little more than a logging road with all the deep ruts and washed out places, and it's considered a 'county' road!
Would you happen to know where this road to the "Old Furnace" is? This isn't the first time I've seen mention of this. The poster Modgellin mentioned in a couple of his posts about a furnace. I thought maybe he was just in one of his bizarre rambling episodes but is there really an old furnace in the area?

Brought forward ...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/parsons-tn/TT...

Modgellin
Orlando, FL
"Welded it shut. Buried it in Parsons. Then acted nice towards the family. Who might that be?"

and this one ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/decatur-tn/...

Modgellin
"... <clipped> Remember and believe: it was her boyfriend and her brother. Furnace, sealed up, buried. Brothers smiling all the time, knowing they'll never get caught. Remember."

Holly Bobo is in a sealed furnace, buried in Parsons. This is how funny it is to them. Right under your noses.

Since: Feb 10

Huntsville, AL

#275 Mar 28, 2013
Sorry ... the last part of that post should have had quotes around it. It was part of Modgellin's original post. Certainly not my opinion! LOL

Since: Jan 12

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#276 Mar 28, 2013
Fatjackntrixie wrote:
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"Karen prays to God he will just kill her and put her out of her misery"? is ok in your books though. She'd love for that to be discussed on a public forum. Gotcha. BTW your God is a killer? Hmmmmm eye for eye?
Quit playing games fool. Your a walking contradiction.

Since: Feb 10

Huntsville, AL

#279 Mar 28, 2013
Fatjackntrixie wrote:
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That poster is just a sad attention hoor.
Possibly ... I'm just looking at all angles. I probably would never have thought about his bizarre posts again after reading it the first time if the furnace had not been brought up again by another poster. Now I'm curious. Every theory under the sun has been brought into Holly's disappearance with maybe the exception of alien abduction or getting dragged off by Bigfoot and I'm just waiting for someone to claim they saw strange lights in the sky or a size 17 footprint that morning for that to get started also.

Since: Jul 08

Lexington, Va.

#280 Mar 28, 2013
Fatjackntrixie wrote:
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It's amazing "camo-guy" got as far as he did with Holly!

He better have had a uhaul waiting on the road for all her stuff.

A large box of bandaids for her torn up feet from him making her hike in flip flops carrying all that stuff.
He likely would have had that dogs chompers implanted in his body somewhere as well. His mistress is in distress?

He isn't following along like they're going on a stroll. No way. I call BS on the Bobo's.....
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Fatjackntrixie, There was alot of things thrown in a lot of locations. Does anyone have a list of the items??
facts

Decaturville, TN

#281 Mar 28, 2013
Prayer Brings Peace wrote:
<quoted text>That was more tongue in cheek. I go to Vandy every three months to get shots for my back and knee. I do know how big that place is, and it would be relatively impossible to find someone there without some knowledge of the type of injury they had.

I've been up most of the night, going back and watching old interviews and news magazine type shows to see if there is anything there we may have missed.

It seems that early on,(within a week of Holly's disappearance) people thought about a PC theory, or someone who just walked off from her life. I don't know, but I just can't get with either of those theories completely.

I cannot get past the 'lack of tears.' I know I've mentioned this before. But the 'dry' sniffles, and the fact there are NO tears at the 'plea' to her daughter's kidnapper. Her make-up is perfect, no runs, and she does not have puffy eyes. It all just feels too staged. As I've said before, I could understand if she'd cried so much, she simply did not have any tears left. But why TRY to cry and not be able to? And if she'd cried so much she couldn't cry anymore, it looks like there would be a puffiness to her eyes.

I know, as everyone knows, there's just more than meets the eye here. I don't really buy a PC theory, but it looks like the only thing that would account for NO TEARS. Of course, there are those who adamantly deny that is the case.(The PC theory) But how else can you explain the absence of tears if your daughter is missing and you have no idea where she is or her condition?
If you where there at the conference right after she went missing NOT ON TV. her mother had a nervous breakdown and had to sedate her probably why she wasn't crying much. they always had to sedate her before talking about holly. Holly was her life .

Since: Feb 10

Huntsville, AL

#283 Mar 28, 2013
Fatjackntrixie wrote:
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LOL!Alien abduction would explain the scent going cold at the tree line. The space ship was parked there waiting?
And the aliens went all Travis Walton on her and took her right out of Decatur County. It makes about as much sense as some of the other theories I've heard. What's next? Rabid Chupacabras?

Since: Jul 08

Lexington, Va.

#286 Mar 28, 2013
Fatjackntrixie wrote:
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The only items retrieved that have been confirmed as Holly's are cel phone (positively hers) and lunch "container" of some sort.

I've heard bag and purse. That was id'd by Karen only as Holly's...
Fatjackntrixie, Correct me if I'm wrong on this...
seems I read somewhere, where a pair of jeans was found with a dollar bill in the pocket with Holly scribbled on the dollar, also school papers near her school..???jmo

Since: Jan 12

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#287 Mar 28, 2013
Fatjackntrixie wrote:
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How is calling somebody a fool NOT disrespectful? Sorry, if you are unable to understand some levels of conversation. I won't "dumb it down". You get out your dictionary and thesaurus.
Your mixing up posts. I said that on a different one. You did sound like a fool with what you said. Its not personal just what you sounded like. Hell Ive been called much worse, lol.

Since: May 12

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#288 Mar 28, 2013
Fed_the_F_up wrote:
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Your mixing up posts. I said that on a different one. You did sound like a fool with what you said. Its not personal just what you sounded like. Hell Ive been called much worse, lol.
I appreciate how forthcoming you were in your response to me, and I hope you didn't feel pressured to disclose more than you were comfortable. I do respect the Bobos, but I don't have any first hand knowledge of any current situations. As I'd mentioned before I knew Dana and siblings several years ago when they were much younger and have had only tangential contact with the case as a local interested from honestly more intellectual pursuit rather than emotional. I don't challenge their pain as I know first hand that pain can manifest in a wide variety of demonstrations.
If Holly was abducted, my logic supports the family being threatened or blackmailed to withhold and cover-up rather than from their own initiative. I see the family as victims, not schemers, but I do agree too much does not ring true in the big picture.
If I were in the desperate place Karen is I have no doubt that from time to time I'd be asking for God's relief through my own merciful death. That's not unseemly at all to me; certainly more humanizing than perfect makeup and all that.
Again thanks. I much value your forthrightness and consistency.

Since: May 12

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#289 Mar 28, 2013
kas61 wrote:
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Possibly ... I'm just looking at all angles. I probably would never have thought about his bizarre posts again after reading it the first time if the furnace had not been brought up again by another poster. Now I'm curious. Every theory under the sun has been brought into Holly's disappearance with maybe the exception of alien abduction or getting dragged off by Bigfoot and I'm just waiting for someone to claim they saw strange lights in the sky or a size 17 footprint that morning for that to get started also.
kas, when locals refer to the "old furnace", they mean Brownsport furnace - a Civil War munitions furnace in southeastern Decatur County. It is a remote wild and difficult to access area, but yes, logging roads would be a good description. This would be in the area between Mt. Carmel community, Largo community, and the south-eastern edge of Decaturville.
There should be photos in public domain. Brownsport furnace was a big deal and has been chronicled and studied - it looks just like what you'd think - an 150 year old enormous barbeque pit, mounds up the sides about twice as tall as a person, and a pit area underneath for the furnace. It's been at least 30 years since I was out that way, so I'm assuming it hasn't deteriorated to the point it's not recognizable.
This is an area that for long long time (since 40's and 50's I guess) was posted and access blocked due to owners being large timber conglomerate that was letting timber mature. Recently (10 or 15 years) lumber has begun being cut and there are some large strips of almost flat empty hillsides very near there.
Hope this helps. Not at all surprising if Holly were hidden there temp or disposed there, but I've never heard of search parties focusing on that area. They've all been more central and north of the county with their searches - at least the ones I've heard about - like Yellow Springs, I-40, Holladay.
Hope this helps.
Guess Who

Townsend, GA

#290 Mar 28, 2013
Letsthink wrote:
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Fatjackntrixie, Correct me if I'm wrong on this...
seems I read somewhere, where a pair of jeans was found with a dollar bill in the pocket with Holly scribbled on the dollar, also school papers near her school..???jmo
These were mentioned by posters writing their experiences
at the search sites on VolsNation. Then other posters here have mentioned
other items found that also were not revealed as to what was
found other than the term 'evidence' by LE.

I found the relating of the findings to be completely credible.
It also comported with LE declaring these items to have shown
signs of being planted at the various locations.
I think the last straw was the panties and where they were discovered and when and the Day of the Week type.
It was found where people had already searched near town and a
week after Holly had allegedly been abducted.

Even Dana conceded that the items appeared to be planted.
No word from Karen as to what her opinion of the "evidence" was.

Since: Nov 11

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#291 Mar 28, 2013
Fed_the_F_up wrote:
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No disrespect taken-
It gets old when everything you say gets twisted and people assume shit that is way off. They cant make sense of it so they assume the worst and judge based on their crazy assumptions. I think that is what has changed and added more emotion to my posts but you wont hear me ever trash Karen, Clint or Dana on here. I don't agree with everything and cant say I understand everything they have said or done but I know for a fact that they are going through a living hell every single day and barely hanging on right now. Karen prays to God he will just kill her and put her out of her misery. Their pain and consistent nightmare is very very real.
I don't think there is a way to discuss this situation responsibly on a public forum or with people who do not have local knowledge. That's just my opinion though.
If you feel that way then why are you on here discussing it? NO we won't here you TRASH them on this forum. But in private emails. OH absolutely you have done nothing but TRASH them. Shall we start with the crack between the toes info?? YOU are a SANCTIMONIUS JACKAZZ HYPOCRITE.

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