Jim Thorpe heroin suspects are in prison

Jim Thorpe heroin suspects are in prison

There are 47 comments on the The Morning Call story from Mar 27, 2009, titled Jim Thorpe heroin suspects are in prison. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Three suspected heroin dealers from Allentown were in Carbon County Prison Thursday, a day after a police search for them prompted Jim Thorpe schools to lock down.

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Philadelphia, PA

#1 Mar 27, 2009
Keep watch!!! There is a few more up there.
Mark Montgomery

Brooklyn, NY

#2 Mar 27, 2009
Law enforcement can arrest as many heroin dealers as it wants and they will never even START to put a dent in the demand for drugs. Heroin should be legal and available to anyone over 18 at a pharmacy. The first thing this would accomplish is that the number of heroin overdoses would drop by at least 90% because the addicts would precisely know the dose they were taking. It would also cut the drug mafias out of the loop because they would have no more customers. It would also reduce burglaries and robberies because meth addicts could get their heroin for under 50 cents a dose at a pharmacy. But this will never happen. Why? Because of law enforcement. Law enforcement and the private prison industry LOVES the drug laws because drugs means steady jobs, lots of overtime and the ability to intrude into the lives of civilians at the drop of a hat. Drugs are a sweet deal for cops who love the ability to search a car or a person without a warrant and generally harrass innocent civilians. We have spent 37 years and over a TRILLION dollars on this foolish "war on drugs". How many million more Americans are going to lock up for decades just because they like to get high? The drug laws are bankrupting city and state governments. Wake up America, we have been sold a bill of goods by law enforcement and our elected officials. Legalize ALL drugs now and we can release a million innocent civilians from the prisons. Mark Montgomery [email protected]
Martinez is a rat

Pottsville, PA

#3 Mar 27, 2009
Nice guy, he rats out his buddy's names to get out with out bail.
Mayor of JT

Kernersville, NC

#4 Mar 27, 2009
To :Mayor Ed ...Please keep you drug dealing trash in Allentown !
DRUG ADDICTS SHOULD OD

Moosic, PA

#5 Mar 27, 2009
Mark Montgomery wrote:
Law enforcement can arrest as many heroin dealers as it wants and they will never even START to put a dent in the demand for drugs. Heroin should be legal and available to anyone over 18 at a pharmacy. The first thing this would accomplish is that the number of heroin overdoses would drop by at least 90% because the addicts would precisely know the dose they were taking. It would also cut the drug mafias out of the loop because they would have no more customers. It would also reduce burglaries and robberies because meth addicts could get their heroin for under 50 cents a dose at a pharmacy. But this will never happen. Why? Because of law enforcement. Law enforcement and the private prison industry LOVES the drug laws because drugs means steady jobs, lots of overtime and the ability to intrude into the lives of civilians at the drop of a hat. Drugs are a sweet deal for cops who love the ability to search a car or a person without a warrant and generally harrass innocent civilians. We have spent 37 years and over a TRILLION dollars on this foolish "war on drugs". How many million more Americans are going to lock up for decades just because they like to get high? The drug laws are bankrupting city and state governments. Wake up America, we have been sold a bill of goods by law enforcement and our elected officials. Legalize ALL drugs now and we can release a million innocent civilians from the prisons. Mark Montgomery [email protected]
u r so fckn stupid, can't even believe you mean what you wrote...though maybe the nyc part means you really are the typical, stupid, new yorker.
DRUG ADDICTS SHOULD OD

Moosic, PA

#6 Mar 27, 2009
Martinez is a rat wrote:
Nice guy, he rats out his buddy's names to get out with out bail.
thank god he squealed---now somebody can murder him so one less heroin dealer.
In the know

Pottsville, PA

#7 Mar 27, 2009
DRUG ADDICTS SHOULD OD wrote:
<quoted text>thank god he squealed---now somebody can murder him so one less heroin dealer.
That's too good for him or you, they should just OD the both of you, nobody would know any better
5gramps45

Bushkill, PA

#8 Mar 27, 2009
Mark Montgomery wrote:
Law enforcement can arrest as many heroin dealers as it wants and they will never even START to put a dent in the demand for drugs. Heroin should be legal and available to anyone over 18 at a pharmacy. The first thing this would accomplish is that the number of heroin overdoses would drop by at least 90% because the addicts would precisely know the dose they were taking. It would also cut the drug mafias out of the loop because they would have no more customers. It would also reduce burglaries and robberies because meth addicts could get their heroin for under 50 cents a dose at a pharmacy. But this will never happen. Why? Because of law enforcement. Law enforcement and the private prison industry LOVES the drug laws because drugs means steady jobs, lots of overtime and the ability to intrude into the lives of civilians at the drop of a hat. Drugs are a sweet deal for cops who love the ability to search a car or a person without a warrant and generally harrass innocent civilians. We have spent 37 years and over a TRILLION dollars on this foolish "war on drugs". How many million more Americans are going to lock up for decades just because they like to get high? The drug laws are bankrupting city and state governments. Wake up America, we have been sold a bill of goods by law enforcement and our elected officials. Legalize ALL drugs now and we can release a million innocent civilians from the prisons. Mark Montgomery [email protected]
you are a real AZZ...must be a dope addict
Peter Feltersnatch

Bethlehem, PA

#10 Mar 27, 2009
Mark Montgomery wrote:
Law enforcement can arrest as many heroin dealers as it wants and they will never even START to put a dent in the demand for drugs. Heroin should be legal and available to anyone over 18 at a pharmacy. The first thing this would accomplish is that the number of heroin overdoses would drop by at least 90% because the addicts would precisely know the dose they were taking. It would also cut the drug mafias out of the loop because they would have no more customers. It would also reduce burglaries and robberies because meth addicts could get their heroin for under 50 cents a dose at a pharmacy. But this will never happen. Why? Because of law enforcement. Law enforcement and the private prison industry LOVES the drug laws because drugs means steady jobs, lots of overtime and the ability to intrude into the lives of civilians at the drop of a hat. Drugs are a sweet deal for cops who love the ability to search a car or a person without a warrant and generally harrass innocent civilians. We have spent 37 years and over a TRILLION dollars on this foolish "war on drugs". How many million more Americans are going to lock up for decades just because they like to get high? The drug laws are bankrupting city and state governments. Wake up America, we have been sold a bill of goods by law enforcement and our elected officials. Legalize ALL drugs now and we can release a million innocent civilians from the prisons. Mark Montgomery [email protected]
How about a compromise? Legalize that garbage, BUT make the health care costs associated with use, overdosing, and side-effects uninsurable and the full fiduciary responsibility of the user.

Crimes committed under the influence, for the lack of a high, or with/to children, get prosecuted twice as severely.

This way, you can sit down in your mom's basement in your bedroom, smoke your wacky-tobacky, and be left alone - as long as you don't take it outside.

However, I'm sure that civil rights lawyers would blow a million holes in that idea.

The problem with the legalize-it-libertarian-types is that they want their "freedoms", but they don't want the responsibilities associated with them.
total

Lansdale, PA

#11 Mar 27, 2009
Mark Montgomery wrote:
Law enforcement can arrest as many heroin dealers as it wants and they will never even START to put a dent in the demand for drugs. Heroin should be legal and available to anyone over 18 at a pharmacy. The first thing this would accomplish is that the number of heroin overdoses would drop by at least 90% because the addicts would precisely know the dose they were taking. It would also cut the drug mafias out of the loop because they would have no more customers. It would also reduce burglaries and robberies because meth addicts could get their heroin for under 50 cents a dose at a pharmacy. But this will never happen. Why? Because of law enforcement. Law enforcement and the private prison industry LOVES the drug laws because drugs means steady jobs, lots of overtime and the ability to intrude into the lives of civilians at the drop of a hat. Drugs are a sweet deal for cops who love the ability to search a car or a person without a warrant and generally harrass innocent civilians. We have spent 37 years and over a TRILLION dollars on this foolish "war on drugs". How many million more Americans are going to lock up for decades just because they like to get high? The drug laws are bankrupting city and state governments. Wake up America, we have been sold a bill of goods by law enforcement and our elected officials. Legalize ALL drugs now and we can release a million innocent civilians from the prisons. Mark Montgomery [email protected]
Intelligent enough argument for the legalization of drugs. Too bad the other commenters cannot support their point of view without profanity. If drugs were legal they would also deglamourize them as well. Less people would look up to these gangster types when they had no business.
wow

Allentown, PA

#12 Mar 27, 2009
Mark Montgomery wrote:
Law enforcement can arrest as many heroin dealers as it wants and they will never even START to put a dent in the demand for drugs. Heroin should be legal and available to anyone over 18 at a pharmacy. The first thing this would accomplish is that the number of heroin overdoses would drop by at least 90% because the addicts would precisely know the dose they were taking. It would also cut the drug mafias out of the loop because they would have no more customers. It would also reduce burglaries and robberies because meth addicts could get their heroin for under 50 cents a dose at a pharmacy. But this will never happen. Why? Because of law enforcement. Law enforcement and the private prison industry LOVES the drug laws because drugs means steady jobs, lots of overtime and the ability to intrude into the lives of civilians at the drop of a hat. Drugs are a sweet deal for cops who love the ability to search a car or a person without a warrant and generally harrass innocent civilians. We have spent 37 years and over a TRILLION dollars on this foolish "war on drugs". How many million more Americans are going to lock up for decades just because they like to get high? The drug laws are bankrupting city and state governments. Wake up America, we have been sold a bill of goods by law enforcement and our elected officials. Legalize ALL drugs now and we can release a million innocent civilians from the prisons. Mark Montgomery [email protected]
I agree with you. Apparently though your message is falling on some deaf ears, based on other comments in this forum. Oh well...you know what they say about the Pennsylvania mountain folk, clinging to their guns and religion (and useless drug laws).
Big Bubba

Pottsville, PA

#13 Mar 27, 2009
total wrote:
<quoted text>
Intelligent enough argument for the legalization of drugs. Too bad the other commenters cannot support their point of view without profanity. If drugs were legal they would also deglamourize them as well. Less people would look up to these gangster types when they had no business.
Too bad, his number are all wrong. So since alcohol, is a legal drug, we don't don't have issue with it any more. What planet do you live on?
LV Guy

Allentown, PA

#14 Mar 27, 2009
Mark M.- I had a relative who worked as an ADA in NYC. He also felt that the problem was that too many upright citizens were supported (ie had big paying jobs as a result) by the drug laws and hence the laws would not be changed.
Pointing Fingers

Brooklyn, NY

#15 Mar 27, 2009
To Mayor of JT, the poster who wrote "Please keep you [sic] drug dealing trash in Allentown": they wouldn't be in business without the drug USING trash in Jim Thorpe.
DRUG ADDICTS SHOULD OD

Moosic, PA

#16 Mar 27, 2009
wow wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you. Apparently though your message is falling on some deaf ears, based on other comments in this forum. Oh well...you know what they say about the Pennsylvania mountain folk, clinging to their guns and religion (and useless drug laws).
yeah, have jwwish or asian businessmen, or whites period,sell heroin to blacks and latinos in ghettos...that way no liberal will claim blacks and latinos are being taken advantage of.
DRUG ADDICTS SHOULD OD

Moosic, PA

#17 Mar 27, 2009
total wrote:
<quoted text>
Intelligent enough argument for the legalization of drugs. Too bad the other commenters cannot support their point of view without profanity. If drugs were legal they would also deglamourize them as well. Less people would look up to these gangster types when they had no business.
i would have no problem selling heroin to any or your kids or relatives....and if they would die from an od, thats their own fault.
clover

Mahanoy City, PA

#18 Mar 27, 2009
I wonder how many of the four drug dealers hold a real job and I'd also like to know if the are receiving welfare. If so, they should be removed from DPW payrolls.
Americanitis

Allentown, PA

#19 Mar 27, 2009
Addiction is a medical problem, and until it's dealt with as such in this country instead of as a criminal problem, none of this will ever change. No less a figure than Rush Limbaugh railed against illegal drug-dealing and using until, in true conservative fashion, he was revealed to be a hypocrite on the subject when his own drug abuse became public. And before the accusation hits, let me be clear - Rush's sin was not the drug use itself; that's a treatable medical condition, and I have nothing but sympathy and support for Rush in hoping he eventually can beat his disease. His sin was the blatant hypocrisy and double standard so typical of today's so-called "personal responsibility" conservative blowhards: laws and punishment for thee, but not for me.

You law-and-order conservatives who always hit the keyboard and/or open your mouths without knowing a darned thing about the subject upon which you bloviate crack me up. You want harsher and harsher penalties for things that aren't in and of themselves crimes, until, of course, you get caught violating those laws. Then you all want sympathy, leniency and treatment - Larry Craig's wide stance, Mark Foley writing laws to protect kids from online predation until he was found out to be an online predator, Rush, and on and on and on, ad nauseum.

And don't expect the judgemental, close-minded, uneducated Puritanical Pennsyltuckians polluting the beautiful space between Philly and Pittsburgh to ever understand that fact. They truly are too busy clinging to their guns and their religion, along with their racism and hypocrisy - just like the Federal Tax Dollar Parasites in the other red states.
You Wanted It

Stroudsburg, PA

#20 Mar 27, 2009
The consequences of legalizing illicit drugs would only transfer the problems associated with addiction from the government's responsibility to the family's responsibility. This is an issue many families already deal with and find it impossible to bear. The biggest scourge are the opium based drugs, be it heroin or prescription drugs (oxycontin).

Although it seems like the "common sense" approach, legalizing all drugs would create an even bigger portion of our population who will be drug addicts. The current social and civil ramifications which inhibit greater drug use (laws and stigma) currently stop a portion (it's debatable on whether it's a small or large) of society from using these drugs. Without these, more people will use these drugs and more people will become addicited.

There are functional addicts but for the most part, the addicts in these areas are looking for anyway possible to get their next fix. The first victims are the families. After the families put measures in place to stop the addicts from stealing, begging, etc, the targeted group for their next fix is society. Hence, burglaries, thefts and robberies will increase.

I could go on and on, but I will leave you with one last point. One of the biggest problems in the areas North of Allentown are with people addicted to legally prescribed narcotics. Despite the fact that you could obtain these narcotics with a prescription, there is still a heavy street trade for these narcotics. Percocet and Oxycontin are commonly sold from Jim Thorpe to Allentown. Are the people buying these from street dealers in such pain that they can't make it to their doctors? No, they are addicts.

Just providing an opinion without profanities...
sin pays

Kunkletown, PA

#21 Mar 27, 2009
we need a fix

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