Kay Hine is "Murdered" not "Missing" in 1972.

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Kays Daughter

Glidden, WI

#1 Aug 22, 2008
People check out NewManatee.com hurry! The cover story of Kay Hine. One thing they failed to mention is before she was murdered, she had a foster home at 3250 N. Rye Road Parrish, Fla. If you were a foster child at the residence and went to Parrish Elementary School, and rode on Mrs. Brown's school bus, please call the Manatee County Sheriff Office and tell them what you remember. Tell them how Kay Hine was beaten. Tell them if you were beaten. Please we need your help to get Kay Hine's killer. She vanished in 1972. Her husband is the person of interest. Gilbert Hine says he took her to the fair grounds, he lied. Witness said Kay never showed up. Danny, Diane, Robby, Timmy, Tommy, Robert, Joel, please call cold case and tell them. There is no Statute of Limitations on child abuse. Remember Charlie and John? Remember all the animals, and the monkeys? Need the foster kids to tell before Gilbert Hine dies of old age. Help me get Kay Hine's killer.
Kays Daughter

Holmen, WI

#2 Jan 24, 2011
www.manateesheriff.com click on missing person button, then click on Kay Hine. Let me introduce you to my mother who poof vanished from Parrish, Fla. in Jan. of 1972. Then now there is a skull at the Bradenton Police Dept and its been there since 1974? I sure hope my mothers killer is sweating it out right now, wondering if its my moms skull. I can tell you I have not got to see my mom in 39 years. I had moved out of state 3 years before she poof vanished. I have heard about the rumors in Parrish about her. I hope this is her skull, so those people can eat their words. I know she was murdered. I know what she told me. This skull is going to tell the truth. They have d.n.a from her brother since 1995. The truth is going to come.
The Guilty Project

Tallahassee, FL

#3 Feb 28, 2011
Were you aware that a divorce was issued in the case of Kay (Kathaline) Hine and Gilbert Hine in TX a few years after her disappearance? Who filed for this divorce? If Gilbert did, why would he divorce her if he killed her? To make it look good? Why would you divorce someone and then later say you were their husband and have them declared dead? Puzzling questions.....
Kays Daughter

United States

#4 Mar 1, 2011
Yes very aware he divorced her in tex. He scatters paper trail. He used to work for the courthouse for a judge, he knows the laws and how to manipulate them. First he said she ran off with another man, then said he dropped her off at the fair grounds, yet her car was filled with fair exhibits, then he drew up a blank deed and took it to tex had notarized and brought it back to fla to get her name off and added a paragraph she died and had the house put in her two sons name, then later took it out of the two sons name and had the paragraph x'd out, then he divorced her in one county in tex, then went to another county in tex and married the thing he is with now. Who i was told was my mothers fishing friend. I know there is deeds three counties wide thats had my mothers name forged off. She was never declared dead, there is no death certificate. Of course if he or they read this he will probably run to another state now and declare her dead. Then yr later go have it x'd off. uh duh. Oh and yes the cops do have dna for my mother, and yes they do have the forgers handwriting.Oh and the witness to the forged deed was the new wifes son, but, they did not know my mother. Ironic isn't it? And yes you did answer your own question. I made a fb for my mom. MyMissingMother. I bet you gilbert sees it he will recognize a picture on there, i hope he sees that picture the rest of his rotten miserable days.
Kays Daughter

United States

#5 Mar 1, 2011
The Guilty Project wrote:
Were you aware that a divorce was issued in the case of Kay (Kathaline) Hine and Gilbert Hine in TX a few years after her disappearance? Who filed for this divorce? If Gilbert did, why would he divorce her if he killed her? To make it look good? Why would you divorce someone and then later say you were their husband and have them declared dead? Puzzling questions.....
I answered you statement on the original page, go see, and put MyMissingMother on facebook search bar, its her page i made for her. thank you for your comment. go see mine.
The Guilty Project

Tallahassee, FL

#6 Mar 2, 2011
Thanks for responding. Are the police going to run your Mom's DNA against that skull they found in the evidence room of the BPD? I hope so. I guess everyone wonders if her body will ever turn up. It's obvious that she would never just leave and have nothing to do with her children and her adopted children that she loved so much. Since those boys were so young when she "disappeared", they only had what Gilbert told them about their Mom and probably believed him.

In doing some checking, it appears that Charlie is closer to Gilbert than John is. This makes me wonder how much they really believe his story.

I will look at your page. I hope the MCSO can get some results or leads. Have they done any digging on property Gilbert's owed over the years? I still see your Mom on the their missing persons webpage.

If I hear anything pertainent, I will inform you.
Kays Daughter

United States

#7 Mar 3, 2011
Well the s.o. said they were working with the bpd. Thanks if you find anything. I know the s.o. is very hungry to get my moms killer and helpers. Very hungry. People dont even know how bad. And Texas aint far enough away from the s.o. An officer called me recently and we talked for two hours, and informed me stuff i didnt know. Believe me they are very up on this case, i was amazed for the first time. The s.o. has as much as sworn to me they will get justice for my mother.
The Guilty Project

Tallahassee, FL

#8 Mar 4, 2011
I am so relieved to hear that the SO is relooking at this case very seriously. It took awhile to get the good ole boys out of the system that Gilbert could bluff. As I've checked back on some facts, a couple of Gilbert's bros can be eliminated as helping him due to solid alibis, but there are other family and friends that need a second look.

We are behind you 100% to find and convict the killer of your Mother.
The Guilty Project

Sarasota, FL

#9 Mar 4, 2011
When reviewing old documents, it would appear that the divorce that Gilbert got in Cameron County, Texas on Nov 18, 1981 was granted on false information he gave the court. For one thing, he listed they had no children from the marriage. I'm sure this was to expedite the divorce, but the divorce was granted false pretense.

Just a few days later, as you know, he and Virginia got married on 23 Nov 1981 in Medina County, Texas.

I wonder why he got the divorce in Cameron County.
Kays Daughter

United States

#10 Mar 4, 2011
He did it so he thought it would not be found. Just like one of them stole book 471 from the court house that had the deed listed he put she died jan 14, 1972 on it. But the courthouse had a duplicate, so we got it. Then he went in later and x'd she died off the deed. Back then you did not go through a metal detector to enter. And he can x his ass off, he can not get the notary x'd off and the s.o. already had a copy. As well as the forgers handwriting. See criminals are stupid thats why they aventually get caught. He wont see jail he is to old. All i want is one bone to put in my mother empty grave, to the wishes of her brother and her parents. Keep looking and if you find something you think will help, please contact Major Connie Shingeldecker at the s.o. Thanks ahead of time. Oh and Kay has five live birth children. Since he said she had no children.Hes a liar and one day the truth will come out. Probably wont be in his life time. But be in mine. And his helpers who are my age. The foster children can tell what happened in that house. My mom had many broken bones, and was wearing a cast on her forearm when she was murdered, cough, vanished. He burned her animals alive in a pit beside the house. It was witnessed the fire was extremely hot for couple of days. Why does a person need a fire that hot to burn little animals? And yes the s.o. says they checked the property. Never the house. I hope the skull is her, it fits. Deep down i dont think so, i think she was totally destroyed. Times are different today, the S.O. is going to get justice. Incase I miss it, please let me know if you hear the final on the skull. Last i heard they are thinking its an old man that fell out of his boat. But wont know till tests are done.
The Guilty Project

Sarasota, FL

#11 Mar 5, 2011
I will keep an eye on the uUnidentified skull case. I know they have considered 10 possibilities the last I heard, including the older man that wondered away from the nursing home 9 years prior to the skull being found. The nursing home was the Bradenton Convalescent Center at 105 15th St E.

It was found off of 2nd Ave E in the swampy marsh section of the Manatee River at the end of the avenue. The 2 boys names who found it were Timothy David and Chris Campbell of 1105 30th St Ct E, Bradenton.

Some of the men involved in the original case were BPD Major Larry Diehl and Detective Curt Siver (who had turned in over to the PD). At the time the skull was found, the PD sent men out to dig up the area to try to find more bones, but none were found. That's when they thought it possibly drifted down stream from its original site.

It will be interesting to find out the results.
Kays Daughter

United States

#12 Mar 5, 2011
Thanks. How close is that swampy marsh from Rye Bridge? I know there has been a large amounts of flooding over the years, i am wondering if that swampy area is connected to Rye River. Someone told me the Rye River and the Manatee River is the same River. Is that true? I was also told that is way too many miles away. I wish I could write a book of what all this issue has done, and how today Kays children totally hate each other. None talk to each other. To write a book you need an ending. Maybe i could title it How to kill and get away with it because i am to old, and i claim i am God fearing yet i never go to church. Today people mention God and instantly they are not liars.
GC Hine's brother and sister in law told me Hine was married before my mom and that woman disappeared and was never found, but, no one looked for her. Also he put out the same stories that she was a man chaser and ran off with another man as he did my mom. Cops asked them, they claimed God and said i was a liar. Hell i did not know he was married before once needless twice. Cops won't check. You seem to find things, find that... Her name was Penny. It was in Mass or Conn. I forgot which state. He was in the navy, the other wife was Gloria in San Diego. But I am the liar cause I did not mention God. Find the woman Penny existed, and poof vanished in thin air. Then tell the s.o. It just may be a key. Kays drivers license expired her b'day 1972. Her car was 1965 Blue Fairlane 500. She had H double bar Ranch on the sides. SS says her account has NEVER been touched.Guess she did not need ss checks or medicare. How come Hine never got the spouse money cause he said she died? I know $255.00 is chump change to him.Find proof of her 38 police special pistol that she told me she had registered so HE can't take it away from her. She bought from a pawn shop in palmetto a few months before she poof vanished. Help get Kathaleen Elizabeth Hine justice.
The Guilty Project

Sarasota, FL

#13 Mar 6, 2011
I checked out maps of the rivers, and the Rye River does eventually empty into the Manatee River. It would be closer for something to move down into Lake Manatee though. There's always the possibility that the skull never had to travel too far. It could have been dumped close to where it was found.

As far as Gilbert being married before, its certainly possible, considering that he was 40 years old when he married your Mother in May 1959 in Jesup, GA. There was a Gilbert C. Hine who divorced his wife, Dollie V., in Seminole County, FL in 1944. Since he was in the Navy until Jan 1960, he could have married anywhere, which makes it very difficult to find. I will keep checking on this.

If you have any other information you would like me to check, I will be glad to.

Its too bad none of the foster children who your Mother kept have not been found in case they might have valuable information.
The Guilty Project

Sarasota, FL

#14 Mar 7, 2011
Update to my last letter.....I did find out that he was married before he married your Mother. I still am uncertain where they were married, but they lived in California most of the time while he was in the Navy. I am trying to find out more about this, but CA records are very private.
Kays Daughter

United States

#15 Mar 7, 2011
You got to be kidding, I answered you Guilty Project and just noticed they did not print it. It was informative. Man i just dont want to go thru all that again. why the hell did they not print it. I will write it again later.grrrr. yes i seen that dollie, i was told penny in mass or conn and gloria in san diego. and they had girl, born like 47. believe her name mary. heard she in bradenton sucking up to the moneybag. while you looking, look up habits of serial killers and why..mom told me lots of things, and always said please destroy this letter. be careful, he called a woman that was renting my moms house and moved back to tennessee, he called her and toldher she better not be helping me if she knew whats good for her. got news for him shes still my friend. and she is back in the area,,he used to be threatening because he rubbed shoulders with that crooked sheriff baden..he told me mom signed the divorce, and laughed when i asked him where is she, said,"i cant believe you havent found her by now,hee hee" suggesting she is definately alive. I was not living in the area, so mom wrote me alot of stories, and always asked for me to destroy the letters. Cops were told hine beat the children and my mom severly, i know she had many broken bones and wore a cast on her wrist when she vanished. Oh and yes charlie is closer, hes good and brainwashed. He told my sheriff here via telephone that my mom i mean our mom was a whore. My sheriff taped the call. Yep hes the heir and john the spare that was never adopted, he was a foster child that fell thru the system. A stolen child at six months old.
Kays Daughter

United States

#16 Mar 7, 2011
finally printed it.
The Guilty Project

Sarasota, FL

#17 Mar 7, 2011
I unfortunately learned the hard way that if I take too long to write a comment on this, the system times me out. Now I "Copy" and "Paste" it into MS Word before I click Post; so if it doesn't take it, I at least have a copy to go back to.
The Guilty Project

Sarasota, FL

#18 Mar 7, 2011
In reviewing a lot of old documents, I was surprised to find that the land transaction that Gilbert states your Mother is "deceased" is land that is being tranfers to your half brother, Ronald, who is no relation to Gilbert or Virginia.....I just found it strange.

About your Mom's divorce from Gilbert, am I understanding you correctly that the Sheriff said your Mother signed the papers in TX? Of course, that's impossible.
Kays Daughter

United States

#19 Mar 8, 2011
NO...Hine told me that on phone..the impossible part was the witness to the deeds getting my moms name off so can sell it to ronald. the witness was virginas son. who also i believe was under age to. at the time he witnessed it. that was the 1980 deed. i said the s.o. has proof that the deeds were forged, they have moms handwriting and the forgers (cough) handwriting. most of that has been blocked now on internet, but does not matter because we all ready have copies. First the impossible part was kay signed the deed 8 yrs after she (uh)vanished, and the new wifes son (uh) as a witness. The 86 deed was in the book 471 i told you was (uh) missing from the courthouse. Thats when they re-opened the case from new evidence. Evidence was the forged deeds the cops sat on for 7 yrs. I had the herald write a story and hine was in the area at the time the story came out and poof the book 471 vanished. Man things sure do vanish in that town. Do you know how much easier it would be to talk with you by email or phone? Then people who read this would just have to guess from now on as to what is going on with Kay Hine because its been way to long and there is just way to many new cases that needs attention. How did you like my fb pg i dedicated to her? Send me message on her fb page. i do not want to put email or phone on this page. ttyl
The Guilty Project

Sarasota, FL

#20 Mar 8, 2011
OK. Sounds good.

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