Mayor sorry for kids' 'assassinate Ob...

Mayor sorry for kids' 'assassinate Obama' chant

There are 20 comments on the GoErie.com story from Nov 19, 2008, titled Mayor sorry for kids' 'assassinate Obama' chant. In it, GoErie.com reports that:

BOISE, Idaho -- The mayor of an eastern Idaho town where second- and third-grade students on a school bus chanted "assassinate Obama!" after the Nov.

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PARENT OF FOUR

Edinboro, PA

#1 Nov 19, 2008
This is really sad because kids this age only repeat what they hear! So somewhere along the line adults have made comments like this that the children have heard and it is most likely family members. We need to remember, President elec Obama is both black and white this should be telling us that we as a nation should come together as one and work on our nation. We should not be looking at our color of skin. Lets all hope that our economy gets the help it needs and we can get past the color of ones skin.
Independent but Informed

Denver, CO

#2 Nov 19, 2008
Who said this had anything to do with the color of ones skin? Who said they heard it from family members? I have seen other remarks on the internet, and on TV. All it takes is one child to start chanting, and others will join. I remember as a child a group on the bus chanting "women drivers, no survivors", because the bus driver was female. Did they learn that at home?
There may have been discussion about assasination when those skinheads were arrested for plotting an assasination attempt.
Not every comment against Obama is about race. Many people don't like his politics, policies, past associations, and lack of experience. It is only Obama's group that keeps bringing up skin color.
Mitsy

Erie, PA

#5 Nov 19, 2008
Mrs Lakerman1 wrote:
My husband, Lakerman1 and I like to get together with Mark, mary p, thinkgoodthings and citi to chant this mantra. Sometimes we will chant it for hours. Boy do we have good times together! After our chanting we pray for the liberals' souls. But we sure would not mind if they all died too.
WOW!! I never agreed with GW Bush, McCain or your views but I have never wished them or you dead!!! That's just evil!!
I'm sure you have reproduced...let's hope your children have received some intelligence from outside your home!!!
Yogi

United States

#6 Nov 19, 2008
Holy ookie mookie. Where is the brilliant mind of John Onorato in all of this?? He knows everything especialy how to pick a trulip out of the chorus line at the courthouse. Good Job wannabe County Executive go cheat on this wife too!! Loser!!!
Yogi

Erie, PA

#7 Nov 19, 2008
Hey fake yogi, I hear his new wife (dumped old wife and baby) really put out when she worked at the Court W hoar House. Johnny got sloppy seconds- or thirds- or fourths - or fifths, etc.

“I Love My Life!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#8 Nov 19, 2008
Hello! They live in Idaho, of course it was about race. You should know that because you are from Utah. I am black and grew up in Utah. I know of places where it is ALL about RACE. Sad, but true.
Independent but Informed wrote:
Who said this had anything to do with the color of ones skin? Who said they heard it from family members? I have seen other remarks on the internet, and on TV. All it takes is one child to start chanting, and others will join. I remember as a child a group on the bus chanting "women drivers, no survivors", because the bus driver was female. Did they learn that at home?
There may have been discussion about assasination when those skinheads were arrested for plotting an assasination attempt.
Not every comment against Obama is about race. Many people don't like his politics, policies, past associations, and lack of experience. It is only Obama's group that keeps bringing up skin color.
homey

Bakersfield, CA

#9 Nov 19, 2008
Mrs Lakerman1 wrote:
My husband, Lakerman1 and I like to get together with Mark, mary p, thinkgoodthings and citi to chant this mantra. Sometimes we will chant it for hours. Boy do we have good times together! After our chanting we pray for the liberals' souls. But we sure would not mind if they all died too.
WTF!!! are you mithing your two front teeth too? i would love to meet the both of you hags in a dark alley. please say you did not procreate.
Independent but Informed

Denver, CO

#10 Nov 20, 2008
I don't live in Utah, I live in Idaho. I also know that this was NOT about race. Those who think it is are more racist than the children. A similar incident would most likely have occurred if Hillary had won. If the chants would have said something like "assasinate the half-european half-african president elect" then I would believe it would be about race.
This has been a problem ever since Obama started running. If anyone says anything bad about him, it is instantly about race. That isn't the way life is, although many blacks want to see it that way. It is about politics and policies. Many people don't like Obama's progressive socialist agenda. They don't agree that someone should be elected to vote "present". They don't think someone should be above the rules (why doesn't Obama have to release medical records, birth certificates (not just live birth records), school records? Because he is black? That is racist. He should have the same requirements as all candidates.
I have lived in many places. I have worked with people from many backgrounds. The most racist people I have worked with are African Americans who just blamed anything they did wrong on racism of everyone else.
How old were these children? The report was from an opinion article, reported by children to their parents. Did anyone else hear this? What about the bus driver? Did the bus driver hear it? Did he/she stop it? How many children were involved?
Independent but Informed

Denver, CO

#11 Nov 20, 2008
Married with children wrote:
Hello! They live in Idaho, of course it was about race. You should know that because you are from Utah. I am black and grew up in Utah. I know of places where it is ALL about RACE. Sad, but true.<quoted text>
Therefore all Idahoans, and Utahns are racist. What a blatant lie, and racist comment.

“I Love My Life!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#12 Nov 20, 2008
I did not say all. I said some. I grew up there, I would know. I was hard growing up in a place were you were different. Not only was I black, but I was Catholic. No I am far from racist, but I know that there are more out there than anyone would imagine. My husband was in the military, so I have lived in Alabama, Virginia, Texas, Ohio and many more states. Children learn from their parents. They might not know what the heck they are saying, but they can still say hurtful racist things. I have heard it all over the country.
Independent but Informed wrote:
<quoted text>
Therefore all Idahoans, and Utahns are racist. What a blatant lie, and racist comment.

“I Love My Life!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#13 Nov 20, 2008
And by the way, I know that AA can be very racist. I have experienced that also. Many other cultures are racists also. You must not get out much. You don't know me, and assume I am a racist. I don't have any problems with skin color, religion, sexual orientation, ect... My mom is what most people consider white, and my father was black. I look black. PEOPLE see color. All of a sudden Obama is half white. Give me a break. When people see me, they don't see half white, the see a black person. You can sugar coat this racism all you want, but it is still out there. I have black, white and mexican relatives. I love all of them, and we don't see color, but we know that most people still look at color. Don't kid yourself.
Independent but Informed wrote:
I don't live in Utah, I live in Idaho. I also know that this was NOT about race. Those who think it is are more racist than the children. A similar incident would most likely have occurred if Hillary had won. If the chants would have said something like "assasinate the half-european half-african president elect" then I would believe it would be about race.
This has been a problem ever since Obama started running. If anyone says anything bad about him, it is instantly about race. That isn't the way life is, although many blacks want to see it that way. It is about politics and policies. Many people don't like Obama's progressive socialist agenda. They don't agree that someone should be elected to vote "present". They don't think someone should be above the rules (why doesn't Obama have to release medical records, birth certificates (not just live birth records), school records? Because he is black? That is racist. He should have the same requirements as all candidates.
I have lived in many places. I have worked with people from many backgrounds. The most racist people I have worked with are African Americans who just blamed anything they did wrong on racism of everyone else.
How old were these children? The report was from an opinion article, reported by children to their parents. Did anyone else hear this? What about the bus driver? Did the bus driver hear it? Did he/she stop it? How many children were involved?
Independent but Informed

Denver, CO

#14 Nov 20, 2008
Lets look at your statement "Hello! They live in Idaho, of course it was about race. You should know that because you are from Utah" Where are you saying "some"?
I don't care one whit about a person's skin color. I do know what children have been exposed to on television. The mass media have made a large point in showing that Obama is half white half black. The media have drawn attention to groups plotting to assasinate Obama during the democratic national convention. We also know that children watch a lot of television these days.
"All of a sudden Obama is half white". This was a point that Obama brought out often in his Uniting speaches. He actually didn't focus much on his African side, since that side of the family is not American (in that they are still in Africa).
I would never say that racism is dead, there are plenty of ignorant groups still out there. But going to this issue, children chanting on a bus, there is no evidence that it was race based. There is no evidence that any of the children care about the color of anyone's skin.
That was my original point...this is not necessarily a racial issue (it could be, I wasn't there after all), it is a political issue. It is already known that these children came from parents who overwhelmingly voted against Obama, against Kerry, against Clinton, etc. These are deep hearted conservatives, and they are probably passing on some frustration that the country is more socialist in many aspects than China is. They obviously don't all care for Obama, but again, this would probably have been the same if Hillary had won. Making a racial issue out of it is missing the true issues.
I do feel sorry for you if you have been discriminated against. I have been discriminated against as well. I have been told I couldn't get a job because I was not female. I was told I couldn't get a job because I wasn't the right type of minority, and didn't meet their quotas. I was passed over for scholarships, not given grants, etc. because of my heritage.
homey

Bakersfield, CA

#15 Nov 20, 2008
Married with children wrote:
And by the way, I know that AA can be very racist. I have experienced that also. Many other cultures are racists also. You must not get out much. You don't know me, and assume I am a racist. I don't have any problems with skin color, religion, sexual orientation, ect... My mom is what most people consider white, and my father was black. I look black. PEOPLE see color. All of a sudden Obama is half white. Give me a break. When people see me, they don't see half white, the see a black person. You can sugar coat this racism all you want, but it is still out there. I have black, white and mexican relatives. I love all of them, and we don't see color, but we know that most people still look at color. Don't kid yourself. <quoted text>
i look at ignorance and that you are.
Boom butta boom

Ashburn, VA

#17 Nov 29, 2008
OK... the mayor is sorry... but are the kids sorry?

No report on whether these kids were influenced by listening to violent chants in rap music.

“I Love My Life!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#18 Nov 29, 2008
The ignorance you are looking at is in the mirror. Give it a rest.
homey wrote:
<quoted text>i look at ignorance and that you are.

“I Love My Life!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#19 Nov 29, 2008
I was never handed anything because I was black or a woman. I worked for everything I had. I paid for my own college because I wasn't waiting around for any grants. My husband was passed over for a job because he was not the right minority. According to you, he should have gotten the job because this country gives everything to minorities. Not getting the job was a blessing because he decided to open his own law practice. He does not look for handouts, he works his @ss off to provide for me and the kids. My only point is that children learn what they are taught also. TV is a portion of it, but parents can also teach hatred. Never assume children are sweet and innocent. Have you been in an elementary school lately? It is nothing like it was years ago. Kids have foul mouths and no respect. Not all kids, but a good majority.
Independent but Informed wrote:
Lets look at your statement "Hello! They live in Idaho, of course it was about race. You should know that because you are from Utah" Where are you saying "some"?
I don't care one whit about a person's skin color. I do know what children have been exposed to on television. The mass media have made a large point in showing that Obama is half white half black. The media have drawn attention to groups plotting to assasinate Obama during the democratic national convention. We also know that children watch a lot of television these days.
"All of a sudden Obama is half white". This was a point that Obama brought out often in his Uniting speaches. He actually didn't focus much on his African side, since that side of the family is not American (in that they are still in Africa).
I would never say that racism is dead, there are plenty of ignorant groups still out there. But going to this issue, children chanting on a bus, there is no evidence that it was race based. There is no evidence that any of the children care about the color of anyone's skin.
That was my original point...this is not necessarily a racial issue (it could be, I wasn't there after all), it is a political issue. It is already known that these children came from parents who overwhelmingly voted against Obama, against Kerry, against Clinton, etc. These are deep hearted conservatives, and they are probably passing on some frustration that the country is more socialist in many aspects than China is. They obviously don't all care for Obama, but again, this would probably have been the same if Hillary had won. Making a racial issue out of it is missing the true issues.
I do feel sorry for you if you have been discriminated against. I have been discriminated against as well. I have been told I couldn't get a job because I was not female. I was told I couldn't get a job because I wasn't the right type of minority, and didn't meet their quotas. I was passed over for scholarships, not given grants, etc. because of my heritage.
Independent but Informed

Denver, CO

#20 Dec 1, 2008
Yes, I agree, a majority of children don't know about respect these days. They learn this not only from parents who aren't home, but from TV (shows like Simpsons, SouthPark, etc are good examples of shows that teach disrespect, as well as news media for their example of disrespecting the current administration).
I have never said I think what the children said was justified, good, correct, or anything of the sort. My statement was just that there is no reason to assume it was race related, as you said in your earlier posts.
The fact that 3 children (I finally found out how many there were), 9 years old, has caused such news is sad. I have heard worse about Bush from adults, with no papers even caring about it. Even before I was 9 years old, we were chanting Bomb Iran, and we didn't even know where Iran was, just that it was on the news. I didn't learn that from my parents (although I may have heard Barbara Ann -the original song- from them). Kids are kids, and we are increasingly punishing them for being such, while at the same time not teaching them to be better. Teachers have very little authority left. I know a teacher who could not send children who were acting up to the principles office, because the principle didnt want to see them. He would "ding" any teacher who sent students (even though that is his job). Parents are increasingly having to have both parents work to make ends meet. TV is increasingly becoming the national babysitter.
But, back to my original point once again. Stating that this was a racial incident is wrong. By stating such, it becomes one, which is one of the largest problems with the incoming administration. Will anyone dare say it is doing something wrong, when they will be immediately accused of being racist, regardless of the intent? The "race card" has been abused too often, similar to the boy who cried wolf. Keep playing it, and the real issues will be ignored where they should be corrected.

“I Love My Life!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#21 Dec 1, 2008
I totally agree that the race card is used too freely. I know people who say I wasn't hired because of race, or I didn't get into school because of race or I was passed over for a promotion because of race. Some of it could be true, but there are many opportunities out there for everyone. I think parents have a responsibility to their children to keep them away from the television as much as possible. The stuff that comes on in the middle of the day is horrible. But of course, people are not responsible, and most do not care what their kids are watching as long as they are not bugging them. America is becomming a sad place, but still the best place in the world to live. I think you had some great points about using the race thing. I think I could learn alot from my own children. They didn't even see the big deal in having a black President because they have a great role model at home (their Dad). My kids really don't see race, so you could be right about those kids just saying whatever sounded cool. But just remember, there are still tons of ignorant racist out there that teach hate to their children.
Independent but Informed wrote:
Yes, I agree, a majority of children don't know about respect these days. They learn this not only from parents who aren't home, but from TV (shows like Simpsons, SouthPark, etc are good examples of shows that teach disrespect, as well as news media for their example of disrespecting the current administration).
I have never said I think what the children said was justified, good, correct, or anything of the sort. My statement was just that there is no reason to assume it was race related, as you said in your earlier posts.
The fact that 3 children (I finally found out how many there were), 9 years old, has caused such news is sad. I have heard worse about Bush from adults, with no papers even caring about it. Even before I was 9 years old, we were chanting Bomb Iran, and we didn't even know where Iran was, just that it was on the news. I didn't learn that from my parents (although I may have heard Barbara Ann -the original song- from them). Kids are kids, and we are increasingly punishing them for being such, while at the same time not teaching them to be better. Teachers have very little authority left. I know a teacher who could not send children who were acting up to the principles office, because the principle didnt want to see them. He would "ding" any teacher who sent students (even though that is his job). Parents are increasingly having to have both parents work to make ends meet. TV is increasingly becoming the national babysitter.
But, back to my original point once again. Stating that this was a racial incident is wrong. By stating such, it becomes one, which is one of the largest problems with the incoming administration. Will anyone dare say it is doing something wrong, when they will be immediately accused of being racist, regardless of the intent? The "race card" has been abused too often, similar to the boy who cried wolf. Keep playing it, and the real issues will be ignored where they should be corrected.

Since: Mar 08

Brookhaven PA

#22 Dec 1, 2008
i guess the idiot rednecks up there in idaho arent smart enough to teach their kids IMPEACHMENT chants!\

my kids would chant HOLD A TRIAL AND IMPEACH OBAMA THEN CASUALLY ESCORT HIM OUT OF WASHINGTON AND BACK TO KENYA. it doesn't rhyme but it IS catchy.
concerned also

Plainsboro, NJ

#23 Dec 7, 2008
I will be so happy when black & white are pages of paper with ink on them and not used in a description to classify a race or color of skin in America. anywhere. But, I can't do it alone. I was scared to death with all the black panthers in the service. even had one level a fully automatic m-16 at my chest at Ft Ord,CA. A black can be as scary as a Kook Klux Klan member. seriously.
But living among each other doesn't have to be so hard, unless they are a radical muslim who wants to exterminate all jews and christians.

I have not seen any camera footage of Obama even hinting of our God in America! Even the Indians Know the Power of the Spirit. funny about the impeachment chant...hahahalol.

but, politics in this crazy world these days, are but an inkling of things to come. All these people, and factory's and jobs oversea's. think about it. Might be easier to just live to be getting by instead of taking the lead on anything. realistically

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