Parents of Special-Needs Student Say School Let Girl Wander Off Alone

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An Overland Park couple is upset with their daughter's school after they say that the special-needs girl wandered away from school and ended up more than half a mile away. Full Story
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Upset Parent

Overland Park, KS

#24 Sep 26, 2010
louise wrote:
First of all, remember there are two sides to every story. Second of all, the majority of teachers are dedicated, caring people who take a personal interest in each of their students, be it 25 or 4 in the classroom. The worst thing for a teacher, however, is to have the public constantly ready to blame them for anything and everything regarding a child. There is much more to this story and Fox news needs to get it's facts straight before shoving these educators out into the spotlight. The pressure on teachers is incredible and the public needs to realize supporting these dedicated people rather than persecuting them without knowing all the facts is what our education system needs.
Louise,

Sounds like you may either be a teacher (at this school) or closer to the facts. I do hold teachers responsible for my child's safety while they are in the schools hands, but ultimately the Principal is the one who has let down this child. Thankfully she was not hurt but the question lingering in my mind is what if?

I do believe that Teachers do NOT get enough credit for all of the work they do with our children! The fact that the child walked more than half a mile away is such a scary thought and with so many dangers.

I have a first grader, a responsible one at that however we have also encountered "procedure errors" that could have ended up with someone hurt or worse. Teachers and Administrators have a huge responsibility with each role (as I am sure you are aware of); however you (the teacher and administrator) decided that was what you wanted to do.

It shouldn't matter if the child has special needs or not I have to believe that we all strive to ensure each child is returned home in the same shape as they arrived. That being said it is crucial that when situations like these arise the policies and procedures are reviewed and corrected to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Semiauto

Kansas City, MO

#25 Sep 27, 2010
I'm certainly glad someone is sitting there chalking up those "procedure errors". Perhaps you could volunteer at school and you'll see first-hand what really goes on. We have too few people in this country doing the work and too many scorekeepers. Perhaps this girl prefers home because there are either no rules there or they are not enforced like they are at school. If you have input about your school's "procedure rules" not being followed, you should address them with your school's administrators.
Upset Parent

Overland Park, KS

#27 Sep 27, 2010
Semiauto wrote:
I'm certainly glad someone is sitting there chalking up those "procedure errors". Perhaps you could volunteer at school and you'll see first-hand what really goes on. We have too few people in this country doing the work and too many scorekeepers. Perhaps this girl prefers home because there are either no rules there or they are not enforced like they are at school. If you have input about your school's "procedure rules" not being followed, you should address them with your school's administrators.
That doesn't make any sense to me at all, if the school and the administrators are unable to keep the kids in school then maybe they shouldn't be in that position in the first place.
Your statement makes it sound as if the school was completely innocent, and any child regardless of age or needs wanted to go home they would or could because those parents are bad parents...give me a break!
Regarding the procedure rules I encountered, were addressed at my school with the administrators! I do not see any outlandish expectations set here so that is what I don't understand as to why you seem to have so much anger. If you read my earlier posts I did give credit to teachers and the fact that so many times they are not given the recognition for all they do. We all make mistakes and we have to learn from those mistakes, which starts by accepting responsibility. Not saying someone should be fired or the school should pay millions of dollars, they need to reevaluate how they handle these situations and correct them not play a blame game.
Rusty L

Kansas City, KS

#28 Sep 27, 2010
I think FOX News needs to get the facts straight before showing or printing false information from people trying to get their name in the news. The facts stated by these parents are 95% publicity reasons. There were several adults with her and the police were called immediately after she left the school grounds.
It's too bad that Fox news is more interested in making headlines.
Wondering

United States

#29 Sep 28, 2010
Upset Parent wrote:
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That doesn't make any sense to me at all, if the school and the administrators are unable to keep the kids in school then maybe they shouldn't be in that position in the first place.
Your statement makes it sound as if the school was completely innocent, and any child regardless of age or needs wanted to go home they would or could because those parents are bad parents...give me a break!
Regarding the procedure rules I encountered, were addressed at my school with the administrators! I do not see any outlandish expectations set here so that is what I don't understand as to why you seem to have so much anger. If you read my earlier posts I did give credit to teachers and the fact that so many times they are not given the recognition for all they do. We all make mistakes and we have to learn from those mistakes, which starts by accepting responsibility. Not saying someone should be fired or the school should pay millions of dollars, they need to reevaluate how they handle these situations and correct them not play a blame game.
I think you protest a little to much. From the comments, it is clear that we don't know the full story, so you really can not blame anyone at this point. Sounds like you are taking the issues you have with your school district out on everyone here. I would be more than pissed off if my child was allowed to walk away from school like this, but I would NOT take it to the media. I am sick and tired of media whores. I would NEVER put my child all over the news for everyone to see... LOOK AT ME! If my child needed more help, I would get that for him, not run out and get everyone to feel sorry for us.
CDW

Blue Springs, MO

#30 Sep 28, 2010
just a thought wrote:
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Obama is paying for nothing - not even his family's recent trip to Spain. We are paying for everything.
Go away.......find another forum for your racist rants.
Upset Parent

Overland Park, KS

#31 Sep 28, 2010
Wondering wrote:
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I think you protest a little to much. From the comments, it is clear that we don't know the full story, so you really can not blame anyone at this point. Sounds like you are taking the issues you have with your school district out on everyone here. I would be more than **** off if my child was allowed to walk away from school like this, but I would NOT take it to the media. I am sick and tired of media whores. I would NEVER put my child all over the news for everyone to see... LOOK AT ME! If my child needed more help, I would get that for him, not run out and get everyone to feel sorry for us.
Obviously you have your opionion and I have mine, I don't think I am protesting too much. If you read all of my comments I am not pointing fingers and condeming the school just making an observation that their procedures may not be working very well. I disagree that I am taking out my issues from my school on this school. I do agree with bringing the media into the situation unless all other attempts had failed. My child's safety is my #1 priority and I take my role as a parent very seriously!
Since my child started school two years ago most of the news articles regarding incidents within the Kansas City School area have jumped out at me and it is unfortunate to read how many students have encountered safety issues while in the schools care. This is quite disturbing to me! I do everything I can to protect my child and prepare them for the evil in this world only to be let down by the school just doesn't seem right.

The situation I encountered: my child was forgotten by the bus driver (at a before school program) so the bus driver returned in their personal vehicle and took them to school without my knowledge and without a car seat. As soon as I was made aware of situation I did address it with the administration. I was told this wasn't the only incident (other bus drivers had also followed this procedure as well) Could I have demanded someone lose their job? Could I have called Fox4? I also experienced another issue as well...the point I am making is that I did address with the appropriate administration to ensure that it never happens again.
When the second issue occurred no one initally was available to address the issue until I explained to them they had two choices.....

So reading this article sickens my stomach in my eyes I honestly can not find any reason that would be acceptable for a school administrator to tell me how or why my child was allowed to wander half a mile away!
I know

Overland Park, KS

#32 Sep 28, 2010
She is NOT retarded. Her special need is a behavioral one.
I know as well

Kansas City, KS

#33 Oct 6, 2010
Again, the news media only giving one side to a story. As a parent of an Apache student, I am not concerned with the going ons of the school. The principal and staff are well informed of procedures dealing with children with special needs (especially those with behavior disorders) and deal with them appropriately. They were following the correct proticol. There are always two sides to everything, but the media doesn't provide that information because that wouldn't make good TV.

Since: Feb 10

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#34 Oct 7, 2010
What a bunch of jerk's, really.I want all of you to go down and tell that little girl she need not come to school anymore,that she's a burden.And what does her parent's miss fortunes have to do with her education.
Ktherine King

Shawano, WI

#35 Oct 24, 2010
My daughter suffers from High functioning Autism/ Asperger's,and Epilepsy. She is in Special Education, and they put her in with a totally disabled student, that makes noise for three hours a day in her classroom (she in school half days) even though I called in an IEP to move her,(because her disability can't handle chronic loud noises) and I had a parent advocate from the county, they refused to move her yet. She got fed up and walked out of the school,when the severly disabled student started his noises. I got a call from the principal that she is missing, they did not follow her, but they did call the police, and the police located her on main street, and seen her heading home. She was walking by herself for awhile, she does not know the streets very well, and it was through the grace of god that she made it home. The school is responsible for the child while they are in their care period! that is what we pay them to do, if you don't feel they are responsible for your child that is like saying a babysitter, or a grandparent is not responsible for your child, when you trust them to keep an eye on them, and are paying them. Why should I have to put my child in a special school? when we are already paying for the special education services in school, through our property taxes. We are going to contact the district attorney, and a disability rights attorney, anything could have happened to her in that time,that she had no supervision. I am not the parent that started this story, I am another parent that the school let my child wander off too, gee it seems like an epedemic. As far as the parents responsibility, the school won't let me stay there all day, and I can't be two places at once. I worked in a nursing home, and if I would have let a dementia patient wander off,I would have gotten nailed for criminal negligence, I bet you will say it is their grown kids responsiblity for the dementia patient huh? The lawyers would see that differently.All I can say is you are lucky this has never happened to you, it is a nightmare....
Katherine King

Shawano, WI

#36 Oct 24, 2010
The media a lot of times, is the only way you can get justice, there is so many lazy beaurocrats out there, that even when you go to them with a problem, they will just blow you off. Two years ago in the same school district(but in the middle school),a teacher and the principal, grabbed my disabled daughter by each arm and dragged her from the Special Education room, to the ISS (In School Suspension) room on her knees, I filed a DPI complaint all that happened is the teacher and the principal involved,got wrote up, and the whole school district had to take three hour classes, on legal restraints in the classroom. I called my Congressman about it, and his mouthy secretary started attacking me, and then I called the Attorney General, and they said it was a local matter. We tried to contact attorney's, but their hands were tied, because the school had to use them, because so many other parents were suing them,it would have been conflict of interest. My daughter is 15 1/2 and there is no way, she is stepping foot in a public school again, not since this last episode...
Carter King

Shawano, WI

#37 Oct 24, 2010
Indeed wrote:
Jimimac - Do the parents of the child in this article pay taxes? If so, do you think they should pay taxes to support the school and then pay tuition to have their child go to private school all because their child is unfortunate enough to have a disability?
Thats exactly the point that we've made.We have the 9th highest property taxes in the state of Wisconsin,and therefore,we SHOULD have outstanding schools,but we don't.We've got totally substandard teachers,and administrators,who are continually going into a "them against us" mode when dealing with we mere parents and taxpayers.Our middle school principal,who is an incompetent little pissant,routinely plays the race card,every time there is a parent complaint against him,which is quite frequent.Parents are not complaining about him due to him being half hispanic,but rather due to the fact that he's incompetent,and unresponsive to our needs.The superintendant of schools will not even return parent's phone calls,until he hears "lawyer",and attempts by parents to rectify anything with the schools is routinely met with petty harassment from our Keystone Kops.As a taxpayer,I expect to actually recieve SERVICES for the money that I pay in taxes-what a concept,eh?

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