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Parents of Special-Needs Student Say School Let Girl Wander Off Alone

There are 33 comments on the Fox4KC story from Sep 24, 2010, titled Parents of Special-Needs Student Say School Let Girl Wander Off Alone. In it, Fox4KC reports that:

An Overland Park couple is upset with their daughter's school after they say that the special-needs girl wandered away from school and ended up more than half a mile away.

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John

Leavenworth, KS

#2 Sep 24, 2010
If they had grabbed her arm or something like that the parents would have just complained that the school was abusing their daughter. I think the school could have done better but at least they did follow her and keep watch.

Since: Jul 10

Overland Park, KS

#4 Sep 25, 2010
If she can't grasp the concept that you can't leave somewhere just because you don't want to be there, maybe school isn't the place for her. Most four or five year olds know not to leave school until they are dismissed. If not they learn quickly. I am angry these parents are trying to force everyone to act as if their child is normal. How many times have I heard stories of "special needs children" disrupting school classrooms with no recourse due the special needs coming before all the other children in the class?
Teresa

Kansas City, MO

#5 Sep 25, 2010
...the school is not a baby sister.......if you know kids they can all ways sneak off.........get real people.......!
Indeed

Olathe, KS

#6 Sep 25, 2010
Let's blame the parents and the child, who through no fault of her own, has special needs. Yeah, that's it. It's not the school's fault. Who do these parents think they are expecting their disabled child to get an education? Don't they know public schools are for perfect children only? Don't they realize teachers are just there for decoration? Everyone knows you can't possibly expect them to do their job and actually watch over the kids. Pffft.
Lizzy

Corpus Christi, TX

#7 Sep 25, 2010
Indeed wrote:
Let's blame the parents and the child, who through no fault of her own, has special needs. Yeah, that's it. It's not the school's fault. Who do these parents think they are expecting their disabled child to get an education? Don't they know public schools are for perfect children only? Don't they realize teachers are just there for decoration? Everyone knows you can't possibly expect them to do their job and actually watch over the kids. Pffft.
So based on your comment you believe that parents have no responsibility, schools should teach kids that they should leave somewhere just because they don't want to be there, about the dangers of traffice and wandering off ...Yes, the school has some responsibility to monitor the kids, but the parents need to work with their child to help her understand she can't leave school. But parents these days are very quick to blame others before they look at themselves and ask what they could have done to help. All children are a blessing from God in some way, but it's not always someone else's job to teach, parents should always be the number one teacher.
Jimimac

Kansas City, MO

#8 Sep 25, 2010
Four teachers to three kids. There is a problem here. My kids go to that school they have 22 kids with one teacher. If your kid needs that kind of special attention maybe they should go to a private school. The parents can pay for the special needs. Not fair that I pay the same amount or probally more and my kids get 1 to 22 teacher to student ratio. We have schools closing teachers getting laid off when are people going to wake up schools are under staffed they are not babysitters they are educators molding our future. If your child has special needs I am sorry but you are not entitiled to anything extra for free. Pay and send them to special schools.
Indeed

Olathe, KS

#9 Sep 25, 2010
Lizzy - No. That is not what I said. Of course parents have a responsibility to teach their children certain things. I don't know the people in the article. Perhaps they have tried to teach their daughter not to run away from the school but since the girl has some kind of disability, maybe she's not able to understand that right away. I don't know. What I do know is that the school is responsible for student safety during school hours. Period.
Indeed

Olathe, KS

#10 Sep 25, 2010
Jimimac - Do the parents of the child in this article pay taxes? If so, do you think they should pay taxes to support the school and then pay tuition to have their child go to private school all because their child is unfortunate enough to have a disability?
DCW

Kansas City, MO

#11 Sep 26, 2010
Kept her within eyesight.... I can see downtown Kansas City from 4 miles away...I can see the horizon which is 7 miles away. Both of these are seen without amplification so they are both within my "eyesight". SMSD had better some up with a better story. Take the girl by the hand, restrain her where she is, call the SRO or OP Police and have them deal with her. This BS of we did not believe we could kept here is school is BS. Her safety overrides and policy or concern. These 4 teachers need to disciplined and the Principal needs to be fire for covering up the teacher's stupidity or being naive enough to believe them.
DCW

Kansas City, MO

#12 Sep 26, 2010
John wrote:
If they had grabbed her arm or something like that the parents would have just complained that the school was abusing their daughter. I think the school could have done better but at least they did follow her and keep watch.
Great hypothesis John...just let her wander off....you are brilliant.
DCW

Kansas City, MO

#13 Sep 26, 2010
Steven Sense wrote:
If she can't grasp the concept that you can't leave somewhere just because you don't want to be there, maybe school isn't the place for her. Most four or five year olds know not to leave school until they are dismissed. If not they learn quickly. I am angry these parents are trying to force everyone to act as if their child is normal. How many times have I heard stories of "special needs children" disrupting school classrooms with no recourse due the special needs coming before all the other children in the class?
The entire class is set up to address special needs.....think about your comment.
just a thought

Liberty, MO

#14 Sep 26, 2010
Lizzy wrote:
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So based on your comment you believe that parents have no responsibility, schools should teach kids that they should leave somewhere just because they don't want to be there, about the dangers of traffice and wandering off ...Yes, the school has some responsibility to monitor the kids, but the parents need to work with their child to help her understand she can't leave school. But parents these days are very quick to blame others before they look at themselves and ask what they could have done to help. All children are a blessing from God in some way, but it's not always someone else's job to teach, parents should always be the number one teacher.
Did you see the mother on TV? If so, you have just answered your own question. They expect the school to do everything while they continue to do nothing.
Jimimac

Kansas City, MO

#15 Sep 26, 2010
Indeed wrote:
Jimimac - Do the parents of the child in this article pay taxes? If so, do you think they should pay taxes to support the school and then pay tuition to have their child go to private school all because their child is unfortunate enough to have a disability?
I'm sure they pay taxes if they live in the district. So do I and my kids don't get the 4 to 3 teacher to student ratio. I am sure they get free or reduced lunch and school fees so if you live in district you are paying for that. I believe their child should get the help they need but not at the expense of all the other students. There should be a fee for the extra help payed by those who need it. Oh I guess you think Obama should pay for it. Great that will be my kids paying for it because it will take 20 years to get us out of this so called bailout. Have you noticed Obama has cut funding to schools. This is one thing we should not cut kids are our future. Be afraid when you get old and need help you will suffer I guarantee it. You must take care of yourself the government will not or would I want to have to count on it.
CatsRCoolest

AOL

#16 Sep 26, 2010
Shayna should have an I.E.P., what does it say as to how the parents want the school to react when the child decides to leave the classroom, and the building..? Leaving the classroom, and the building should be a goal of theirs to stop her from doing and needs to be addressed right away. The parents have the final say about how it is handled so they need to get on it. I started school when I was 4 and knew not to leave the room. If I could have got away with it I would have done it though.
just a thought

Liberty, MO

#17 Sep 26, 2010
CatsRCoolest wrote:
Shayna should have an I.E.P., what does it say as to how the parents want the school to react when the child decides to leave the classroom, and the building..? Leaving the classroom, and the building should be a goal of theirs to stop her from doing and needs to be addressed right away. The parents have the final say about how it is handled so they need to get on it. I started school when I was 4 and knew not to leave the room. If I could have got away with it I would have done it though.
Sure the kid has an IEP but the school is forbidden from commenting on what the goals and objectives are. The parent, on the other hand, can say whatever she wants and say it publicly so the school comes off looking bad every time. At annual review time for the IEP, they'll simply check "Not Met" and "Continuing" on those goals and objectives. The parent, too, is part of the IEP team. Many times, while the school is actively trying to meet the goals and objectives, the parent is not doing squat.
just a thought

Liberty, MO

#18 Sep 26, 2010
Jimimac wrote:
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I'm sure they pay taxes if they live in the district. So do I and my kids don't get the 4 to 3 teacher to student ratio. I am sure they get free or reduced lunch and school fees so if you live in district you are paying for that. I believe their child should get the help they need but not at the expense of all the other students. There should be a fee for the extra help payed by those who need it. Oh I guess you think Obama should pay for it. Great that will be my kids paying for it because it will take 20 years to get us out of this so called bailout. Have you noticed Obama has cut funding to schools. This is one thing we should not cut kids are our future. Be afraid when you get old and need help you will suffer I guarantee it. You must take care of yourself the government will not or would I want to have to count on it.
Obama is paying for nothing - not even his family's recent trip to Spain. We are paying for everything.
louise

Peoria, AZ

#19 Sep 26, 2010
First of all, remember there are two sides to every story. Second of all, the majority of teachers are dedicated, caring people who take a personal interest in each of their students, be it 25 or 4 in the classroom. The worst thing for a teacher, however, is to have the public constantly ready to blame them for anything and everything regarding a child. There is much more to this story and Fox news needs to get it's facts straight before shoving these educators out into the spotlight. The pressure on teachers is incredible and the public needs to realize supporting these dedicated people rather than persecuting them without knowing all the facts is what our education system needs.
Upset Parent

Kansas City, MO

#20 Sep 26, 2010
Teresa wrote:
...the school is not a baby sister.......if you know kids they can all ways sneak off.........get real people.......!
The school is not a babysitter??? When I drop my children off for school I expect the school to be responsible for my child! That is why we pay taxes, to pay for the teachers, the principal etc. Regardless if they are special needs or not they are responsible for keeping my child safe from harm until they return them to my care. If they are unable to do that the administrators need to be held accountable.
It shouldn't matter if the child is special needs or not..she was in a room with more teachers than students there is no excuse for a young child of this age to be allowed to wander off school property putting her life in jeopordy. What if she would have been hurt, or had some stranger taken her?
The school should have some sort of process in place to ensure this doesn't happen EVER!!! Accountablility!
Jimimac

Kansas City, MO

#21 Sep 26, 2010
just a thought wrote:
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Obama is paying for nothing - not even his family's recent trip to Spain. We are paying for everything.
I stand corrected.
Artie

Overland Park, KS

#22 Sep 26, 2010
THis is a big problem for the schools. One of my grandsons is a special needs student. I think it is good to try an include him in regular classroom studies. But some children are too much of a burden on the teachers and fellow students. I think that these students need to be in a 'special class' if nothing more than to take care of them and keep them from harm. This young girl is severely retarded as I understand and probably will not absorb anything from the classroom education. It is too costly and too disruptive to keep such students in with the normal classroom. And just think at what this is all costing taxpayers...Four teachers in one classroom. We cannot afford this kind of educational system. No wonder our students are not performing well in their testing procedures.

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