Taking Dolton Back!!
jack

Chicago, IL

#22 Dec 10, 2012
lawdog wrote:
we have a good mayor he just needs time to weed out the schum that is around him and that doesnt happin over night the shaws are done in our town ronni has done a lot for this town that i can see he is only one man give him time to show us more2013
How many year do the people who live here have to wait to have change?
Mr Mayor Ronnie Lewis has been here and in office and now he will do something for 2013 !!! SURE< go on see if that happens.
the truth

Dolton, IL

#23 Dec 12, 2012
lawdog wrote:
we have a good mayor he just needs time to weed out the schum that is around him and that doesnt happin over night the shaws are done in our town ronni has done a lot for this town that i can see he is only one man give him time to show us more2013
You must not live in dolton or you are one of ronnie,s sidekick. Ronnie has not done one thing in Dolton that was already in progress-not one business111111. You sound like a fool lawdog. In 2013 there will be a change and that you can believe.
Joker

Manhattan, IL

#24 Dec 12, 2012
Dolton is a dump who cares
Straight Chicago

Chicago, IL

#25 Dec 13, 2012
Midloguy30 wrote:
I wish you guys good luck....sincerely. I think what joker is saying is that the more minorities you have living in a town the more violent it is. Mind you that is not a racist statement. It is a fact. Now you can call me a racist if you want. But like I said its a fact. If you want to ignore the facts then you are the racist one. Again....good luck...you have a huge hurdle to climb.
I am pretty used to uneducated and uninformed comments on here but man you take the cake for being a fool in this forum, even more than Joker. I'm Black myself and I live in Dolton but I'm from Chicago so I have no qualms with saying it is very ghetto and even dangerous here. Your connection between "minorities" and violence is so backwards its scary that people like you exist in droves. Crime is more closely associated with poverty and low income than any other factor I'm aware of i.e. rich Blacks will be less likely to commit crimes than poor whites, rich whites will be less likely to commit crimes than poor Blacks. Here in the Chicagoland area, middle and working class Blacks do not really have "a neighborhood" and typically live with low income Blacks. Crime being associated with poverty means "Black neighborhoods" have crime because we typically all live smushed together. I have friends from out of town that were used to affluent Black neighborhoods and were shocked by how different Chicago is. I'm not denying crime in Black areas, I'm saying I don't believe you're dumb enough to think it's caused by race.Go to the poor of any race and you will find crime.
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#26 Dec 16, 2012
I'm sick and tired of income being an excuse. Few days ago to blacks were arguing about the bulls-philly game and someone pulls out a pistol. Do you have to be rich to know that you don't murder someone tor their gym shoes? There are a lot of opportunities in the black communities. Easier time getting into labor unions. Friend of mine was at the last pipefitter sign up....Barely any were there. College scholarships set aside for blacks that higher scoring whites could not get.

You have to want it. So many do not.

Millions and millions of dollars have been pumped into the black communities with little to no effect. You have to want to get off the link card.

70% of black children are born into fatherless households. Is that the fault of the white man?

Black civil right leaders always look for white injustice don't to their brothers. When have they challenged black parents to step up? Where is the accountability?

The black community is down...it has had a hand extended to them but would rather just lay down. Its easier to have fish handed to you then to catch them yourself.

Bremen High School.

Long line of people(mostly black) applying for free tuition while talking on their IPhone and in their apple bottom jeans and boots with the fur.
Not right.

midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#27 Dec 16, 2012


Free housing, free medical, free food, free medical,free phone, free home repair(ceda)
free daycare,free schooling. I even heard free dog food.

And then blame the high crime on being poor.

All the trash on the streets in the ghetto is not about money. Gang related drive by shootings is not about money. Its about getting off your ass and working for what you got and teaching your children well.
Straight Chicago

Chicago, IL

#28 Dec 18, 2012
midloguy30 wrote:
I'm sick and tired of income being an excuse. Few days ago to blacks were arguing about the bulls-philly game and someone pulls out a pistol. Do you have to be rich to know that you don't murder someone tor their gym shoes? There are a lot of opportunities in the black communities. Easier time getting into labor unions. Friend of mine was at the last pipefitter sign up....Barely any were there. College scholarships set aside for blacks that higher scoring whites could not get.
You have to want it. So many do not.
Millions and millions of dollars have been pumped into the black communities with little to no effect. You have to want to get off the link card.
70% of black children are born into fatherless households. Is that the fault of the white man?
Black civil right leaders always look for white injustice don't to their brothers. When have they challenged black parents to step up? Where is the accountability?
The black community is down...it has had a hand extended to them but would rather just lay down. Its easier to have fish handed to you then to catch them yourself.
Bremen High School.
Long line of people(mostly black) applying for free tuition while talking on their IPhone and in their apple bottom jeans and boots with the fur.
Not right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =_Gh3_e3mDQ8XX
If income is an excuse show me any evidence that crime volume has no relation to socioeconomic status. Don't even use Blacks. Use ANY other race,ANY other ethnic group and show me what you read or observed to demonstrate that the richer people in that group are incarcerated or convicted of criminal offenses as much as the poorer. I did not make any excuses for anybody. A criminal is a criminal to me. Two bank robbers just escaped the federal lockup downtown, one Black and one white. I don't want either one of them anywhere near me or my family. They're both felons. I'm saying that you ignorant by characterizing all Blacks like the scumbags of our race and all whites like the upstanding citizens of your race. Before you ask why I capitalize Black and not white, it's because Black is the closest I have to an ethnic identity.White is not the same. I capitalize Irish, German, Dutch etc. I don't make excuses for non-performers because of their race. I don't care for your disrespect of my family which includes public servants, first responders, servicemen, and clergy with shortsighted generalizations. I am positive my white co-workers and friends would rather have my All American family living next door than yours.
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#29 Dec 18, 2012
Why would I not use blacks in any equasion or comparison? You don't compare apples to oranges by using bananas.

Why do Hispanics have more spending power and do better test wise on schools then black counterparts. Many are first or second generation and English is not even always the primary language spoken in the home?

Why does Olympia Fields a majority black town with a higher household income then Midlothian....a majority white town have a higher crime index according to www.city-data.com

And like I said, many don't want to break the cycle. The government has made it to where you don't need to work to live...They will provide for you. You don't need your own house..3 and four generations live at grandmamas house. I've worked in houses all over the south and west side. I'm not throwing punches in the dark. I know what goes on...Nobodies at work. They are all watching judge Judy. I'm fixing shit on the taxpayers dime everyone's sitting on their ass and the house is a fkn wreck.....Poor by choice! Because it's the easy way. Getting an education ain't easy...usually working at the same time too...Its hard.

And I am not putting all blacks in this class or all acting this way but the long and short is this....Too many just don't want it.

Turn on a police scanner sometime and listen to what's going on...These aren't crimes of stolen bread for supper. Its just ignorance.

Deal with it. I've talked to black seniors. The ones who have fought for their rights. They are appalled with the actions of black youth.
Okiedokie

United States

#30 Dec 19, 2012
Stop spewing your hate
It's your own fault you still live in the south suburbs
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#31 Dec 19, 2012
That's the problem....tell someone the truth and you're spewing hate. Not all of us want to run to some will county shit shack. Go f yourself.
Joker

Manhattan, IL

#32 Dec 20, 2012
MidloGuy30 for President!!!!
Anonymous 3

Chicago, IL

#33 Dec 20, 2012
Borrowed this from a conversation about Midlothian. I thought that it was an interesting take on a situation that many south suburban towns are facing. And it does not go into race baiting.

With an academic background in economics and sociology you should realize that you can't blame what is happening in Midlothian on the politicians. It is purely economic and sciological factors that are to explain for the depressed state of affairs there. In my experience this has been a blue collar community made up primarily of those with high school education and or trade school. Those types of employees have been hit hard over the past twenty to thirty years with plant closings etc. Those that have become college educated with higher incomes have for the most part moved on and taken their money with them. When there was ample employment in the area with relatively high paying jobs, towns like Midlothian and Posen actually prospered. The same phenomenon hit Harvey years earlier with the closing of Wyman Gordon, Allis Chalmers, ARCO research, Maremont Muffler, Wisconsin Steel, International Harvester etc. Next the car dealerships and stores, and mall closed as the residents had little or no disposable income to spend on these items. The decrease in sales and property tax revenue makes it difficult to provide basic services like police and fire protection. How you can blame politicians who have been desperately trying to sail a ship that has been sinking for many years is beyond me. Unless you can persuade people with a large amount of disposable income (professionals)to live, shop and invest in the area, turning the economic situation around is going to be impossible. Blue Island, Chicago Heights, Calumet City and other towns are experiencing many of the same issues. Maybe public forums are the answer with other experts in economics and sociology solving these problems which seem to be common to aging blue collar inner ring communities
Okiedokie

Marble Falls, TX

#34 Dec 20, 2012
Midloguy for mayor of Dolton
Will let you live in a shit shack for free
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#35 Jan 6, 2013
Anonymous 3 wrote:
Borrowed this from a conversation about Midlothian. I thought that it was an interesting take on a situation that many south suburban towns are facing. And it does not go into race baiting.
With an academic background in economics and sociology you should realize that you can't blame what is happening in Midlothian on the politicians. It is purely economic and sciological factors that are to explain for the depressed state of affairs there. In my experience this has been a blue collar community made up primarily of those with high school education and or trade school. Those types of employees have been hit hard over the past twenty to thirty years with plant closings etc. Those that have become college educated with higher incomes have for the most part moved on and taken their money with them. When there was ample employment in the area with relatively high paying jobs, towns like Midlothian and Posen actually prospered. The same phenomenon hit Harvey years earlier with the closing of Wyman Gordon, Allis Chalmers, ARCO research, Maremont Muffler, Wisconsin Steel, International Harvester etc. Next the car dealerships and stores, and mall closed as the residents had little or no disposable income to spend on these items. The decrease in sales and property tax revenue makes it difficult to provide basic services like police and fire protection. How you can blame politicians who have been desperately trying to sail a ship that has been sinking for many years is beyond me. Unless you can persuade people with a large amount of disposable income (professionals)to live, shop and invest in the area, turning the economic situation around is going to be impossible. Blue Island, Chicago Heights, Calumet City and other towns are experiencing many of the same issues. Maybe public forums are the answer with other experts in economics and sociology solving these problems which seem to be common to aging blue collar inner ring communities
These are not the same times as back in the day where everyone worked are a town plant. There is no large scale jobs being done in Midlo or posen.k

People in the trades know you have to drive to where the work is. One year I might be in the city.
Next year in the western burbs. Maybe north side the next. Bottom line is Midlo is set up well being a blue collar worker because you are 5 minutes from 294 or 57. I don't really understand how the jumbo jumbo above applies to anything.

Keep wearing your 200$ shoes and swiping the link card my kids bought you......homies.
wow

United States

#36 Jan 6, 2013
Concerned Citizen wrote:
<quoted text> Joker have you ever lived in Dolton? Well I'm here to let you know its not a dump. We have thugs thats moved in doesn't make it a dump... You're a joke!
no It's a gettin dump, sorry for people that didn't move out in time, yes the thugs that moved in made it a dump, was told many years ago it was a good safe town.
Soul Sista

Calumet City, IL

#38 Jan 7, 2014
Actually, half of Dolton is black and the other half is filled with other races. I live here so I know. Dolton is not a bad neighborhood. I rarely ever hear gunshots. And when I did, it was on New Years. Dolton is a pretty quiet place. It isn't bad at all.
sambo

Lansing, IL

#39 Jan 16, 2014
Midloguy30 wrote:
You see this is how it works.
If you were to take a 100, a 1000 or 10000 or a million white people a certain number of those people are going to be good honest people. The rest will be thieves, murders, drug dealers, rapists, gangbangers or whatever.
Now you can do the same thing for blacks,Mexicans, Asians or whoever else.
Blacks will top all others in terms of bad apples per bushel.
How do I know this?
Math
Look at the statistics from government websites like from the FBI or citydata
Mexicans are second, whites third and Asians fourth.
Recognizing who's shoulders the problem is on is an important step. Problem being black civil rights never comment on the fact that nine times out if 10 a black man is the one murdering another black man. Instead they key on the 1 time out if 10 a white devil murders one of their innocent brothers. Al and Jessie are doing blacks ni favors. The problem lies with the fact that 70% of black children are born into single parent households. Studies show It takes 2 parents to raise a child.
Again...good luck and God bless.
midloguy is right, and unfortunately if your offended by the facts the easy thing to say is your racist, Dolton at one time was a town of hard working blue collar people, people worked hard for their families, got involved in the community, went out of there own way to fix things or make improvements, they didn't wait for someone else to do something, they took pride in the family like communitie, you could leave your house and cars unlocked, parents took account for the raising of their kids, though not perfect, it was wrong to blatantly throw garbage on the ground, people didn't wander around aimlessly, there wasn't shootings, burglaries, people screaming and using obscene language with no regard that it is offensive, kids doing open drug deals, no respect in stores or people walking on the streets, I still have family their and yes there are great people in Dolton, but truth is and the facts are whatever you want to call it, single mother parents, thugs, shaws corruption, Dolton will never again be the blue collar, family friendly, moral, community pride, hard working, self reliance, and yes Dolton was also racially mixed (for those ready to scream racism),people didn't see color, they saw other good people working and living together, the hard fact is people that came to Dolton after the 80s who don't care about anything, raising there kids morally the best they can, and don't give a crap about morals, littering, using vile language openly and with no regard to others, they destroyed Dolton, of course not everyone, but these transient non assimilating people take, then destroy then move to there next town, sad, but a true reality, I feel sad to see something so great be destroyed, but it is also nice to find those shining diamonds in Dolton who have the same hopes and dreams of the people of Dolton past still there trying, that's keeps the glimmer of hope alive, however small, like moms mabley sang Abraham,john,martin, where have you all gone, its kinda like that sadness she felt in her song.
sambo

Lansing, IL

#40 Jan 16, 2014
Anonymous 3 wrote:
Borrowed this from a conversation about Midlothian. I thought that it was an interesting take on a situation that many south suburban towns are facing. And it does not go into race baiting.
With an academic background in economics and sociology you should realize that you can't blame what is happening in Midlothian on the politicians. It is purely economic and sciological factors that are to explain for the depressed state of affairs there. In my experience this has been a blue collar community made up primarily of those with high school education and or trade school. Those types of employees have been hit hard over the past twenty to thirty years with plant closings etc. Those that have become college educated with higher incomes have for the most part moved on and taken their money with them. When there was ample employment in the area with relatively high paying jobs, towns like Midlothian and Posen actually prospered. The same phenomenon hit Harvey years earlier with the closing of Wyman Gordon, Allis Chalmers, ARCO research, Maremont Muffler, Wisconsin Steel, International Harvester etc. Next the car dealerships and stores, and mall closed as the residents had little or no disposable income to spend on these items. The decrease in sales and property tax revenue makes it difficult to provide basic services like police and fire protection. How you can blame politicians who have been desperately trying to sail a ship that has been sinking for many years is beyond me. Unless you can persuade people with a large amount of disposable income (professionals)to live, shop and invest in the area, turning the economic situation around is going to be impossible. Blue Island, Chicago Heights, Calumet City and other towns are experiencing many of the same issues. Maybe public forums are the answer with other experts in economics and sociology solving these problems which seem to be common to aging blue collar inner ring communities
excellent insight, adding to the blight that follows is people with no jobs, thugs, gangs, liquor stores, drug dealing, single mothers with no control of their kid only control of the associated link card and other entitlements increases, then comes a rampant disrespectful, dangerous environment and community that anyone with a semblance of a brain would not want to raise a family around, my life I have seen this happen with the closing of the steel mills, I have seen south Chicago, Pullman, Dolton, south Holland, calumet city,harvey, lansing, there is a common denominator, destroy, move on to the next one, destroy, transient by the way of entitlements, no pride that comes with earning and owning/building homes, put any twist on it that you want but the facts are the facts, poor or being on entitlements shouldn't mean lack of morals,values,educated,respect ful,fraudulent,, scamming society and entitlements, the mindset of scamming entitlements, the world owes me because im a victim, ignorance, and its all about me is disturbing to say the least.
sambo

Lansing, IL

#41 Jan 16, 2014
midloguy30 wrote:
That's the problem....tell someone the truth and you're spewing hate. Not all of us want to run to some will county shit shack. Go f yourself.
midloguy is right telling the truth is not spreading hate, truth hurts sometimes, facts are facts, not hate, there is not hate involved with the stories of Harvey, Dolton, calumet city, south Chicago, Pullman, those that jump to the say facts are spewing hate, have the same warped logic of people like rev. wright.
sambo

Lansing, IL

#42 Jan 16, 2014
midloguy30 wrote:
Why would I not use blacks in any equasion or comparison? You don't compare apples to oranges by using bananas.
Why do Hispanics have more spending power and do better test wise on schools then black counterparts. Many are first or second generation and English is not even always the primary language spoken in the home?
Why does Olympia Fields a majority black town with a higher household income then Midlothian....a majority white town have a higher crime index according to www.city-data.com
And like I said, many don't want to break the cycle. The government has made it to where you don't need to work to live...They will provide for you. You don't need your own house..3 and four generations live at grandmamas house. I've worked in houses all over the south and west side. I'm not throwing punches in the dark. I know what goes on...Nobodies at work. They are all watching judge Judy. I'm fixing shit on the taxpayers dime everyone's sitting on their ass and the house is a fkn wreck.....Poor by choice! Because it's the easy way. Getting an education ain't easy...usually working at the same time too...Its hard.
And I am not putting all blacks in this class or all acting this way but the long and short is this....Too many just don't want it.
Turn on a police scanner sometime and listen to what's going on...These aren't crimes of stolen bread for supper. Its just ignorance.
Deal with it. I've talked to black seniors. The ones who have fought for their rights. They are appalled with the actions of black youth.
SO RIGHT ON, government made this a pretty good lifestyle and choice, all on the aching bones of those who get up in the morning tired and sore and work, just facts, not hate.

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