Man has 18 sled dogs - The Park Record

Man has 18 sled dogs - The Park Record

There are 23 comments on the Park Record story from Nov 9, 2010, titled Man has 18 sled dogs - The Park Record. In it, Park Record reports that:

Silver Creek resident Neal Bowlen keeps 18 dogs at his home. Mostly the dogs live inside a barn, but neighbors complained about two weeks ago when the dogs barked while out in Bowlen's yard.

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local girl

Sandy, UT

#1 Nov 9, 2010
Those dogs are loud and obnoxious. I was trying to go for a nice run down the dirt road in Jeremy Ranch when Pawsatch Snow Dogs showed up with their 18 dogs and 2 RV's. They were using a sled with wheels to take two people on a private "sled dog experience." The lady in charge of the operation said they charge $250 in the off season, and more in the winter when there is snow. So, in my opinion, even if they aren't operating out of their home, they need a business permit. And if they are using a road, used by many locals to exercise on, it is ANNOYING to get nearly run over by a heard of yapping dogs. And if the dogs aren't enough, the two ATVs splashing mud all over the place and emitting fumes really stinks! I've never seen anything like Pawsatch and I'd personally pay $250 to keep them away from me.
hadablast

Draper, UT

#2 Nov 10, 2010
My daughter had an awesome birthday party with Pawsatch Snow Dogs. Neil was wonderful with the kids, the dogs were beautiful, and what a cool thing to say we did. Can you have a dog sled ride in Kansas? Or in Arizona? No - this is a cool, unique, mountain snow town experience that we loved. Just give the dogs a hug and you'll be in love with them...unless, of course, you are animal hater...
huh

New York, NY

#3 Nov 11, 2010
Unfortunately, the Snyderville Basin hasn't been musher-friendly since the late 80s. Too much sprawl, too many people looking for that "mountain lifestyle" that has them crammed together with a bunch of other massive (and beautifully landscaped!) houses on a 10 degree angle.
That said, Mr. Bowlen apparently overstayed his welcome when the business became more important than the original few dogs he had, and he insisted on buying more. More dogs = more rides = more money...time to own up, Neal. Those dogs stopped being your "pets" about 14 dogs ago, when you had to start hiding them from your neighbors.
MeMeMeMe

Salt Lake City, UT

#4 Nov 11, 2010
local girl wrote:
Those dogs are loud and obnoxious. I was trying to go for a nice run down the dirt road in Jeremy Ranch when Pawsatch Snow Dogs showed up with their 18 dogs and 2 RV's. They were using a sled with wheels to take two people on a private "sled dog experience." The lady in charge of the operation said they charge $250 in the off season, and more in the winter when there is snow. So, in my opinion, even if they aren't operating out of their home, they need a business permit. And if they are using a road, used by many locals to exercise on, it is ANNOYING to get nearly run over by a heard of yapping dogs. And if the dogs aren't enough, the two ATVs splashing mud all over the place and emitting fumes really stinks! I've never seen anything like Pawsatch and I'd personally pay $250 to keep them away from me.
You seem to be an idiot. The article says the company has a permit through their place of business, at Canyons. The fact that you ran into them on a public road and they annoyed you doesn't mean they need another additional permit.

I use that road all the time, and just like they don't own it, neither do you, or me. The fact that you were annoyed by them is relevant only to you. It's a public road. It's great for recreation, but that's not it's sole purpose, so get over the fact that everyone has access to it. Your attitude of 'how dare they use the same (public) road I use to exercise' is typical of the coddled, superior, ignorant attitude that seems to be everywhere these days. I can see an issue for their neighbors- if he is keeping 18 dogs without the necessary permit then that should be addressed. You should shut you pie-hole.

You're annoying to me, and by your logic, that means you need a special permit.
resident

Park City, UT

#5 Nov 11, 2010
Last time I checked we were still living in a free country. If somebody wants to have 17 cared for dogs then so be it. Who are you (huh? in C.A.) to decide how many pets is the appropriate amount for somebody? How would you like it if I started dictating certain rules onto your life?

The Jeremy Ranch dirt road is a public road. People who feel that they are more entitled to use the road then the next guy are the ones with the problem. If you are unhappy jogging there then go somewhere else. Nobody is forcing you to run there.

I am happy to see a unique business thriving in Park City and wish Neal and his 17 dogs the best.
Melvin

Jefferson, WI

#6 Nov 11, 2010
Forget the prissy bed-wetter neighbors. Nobody can chase away the ever-present goblins that they let into their lives. Give the guy his permit and be happy for someone has found a way to keep alive during a depression.
Eyeball

United States

#7 Nov 12, 2010
I suppose I could see it as "hiding dogs from his neighbors" but I prefer to think of it as trying to be a good neighbor.
Peter Kemp

Coalville, UT

#8 Nov 12, 2010
local girl wrote:
Those dogs are loud and obnoxious.
Jeepers what a grinch.

A few years back, while living in Atlanta, I was visiting Wyoming for several days during winter, and had the opportunity to take an all-day sled dog trip. There were a large number of dogs, and probably 6-10 sleds, can't remember how many. It included a stop at at some hot springs mid-day (we were told to bring suits...what a cool thing to dogsled in single digit winter wonderland, out to hot springs, and then we stopped along the route back for an outdoor lunch of grilled steak and trout. It was an amazing day, and yes, not cheap. But I remember going back home thinking "What a COOL thing to be able to do!" As another poster wrote, how many people get to experience that in their lives? Not many.

We get to live in a place that others travel thousands of miles to get to, on an expensive vacation, in order to enjoy for just a few days the unique activities we can enjoy or witness on a daily basis.

The fact that we can hike or snowshoe or run on a trail, and come across a dogsled team...is extremely cool in my book, and another example of what makes it so great to live here.
Peter Kemp

Coalville, UT

#9 Nov 12, 2010
Sally, the guy's on 14 acres, it's not like he has 18 dogs on a .25 acre lot in Ranch Place. That might be a reason to go "sky-high."

Leave him alone for krise sake.
resident

Park City, UT

#10 Nov 12, 2010
dear miserable local girl, please go back to where ever you moved here from. we are actually pretty sick of annoying people like you around here.
thanks,
happy trail runner
two cents

Bountiful, UT

#11 Nov 12, 2010
local girl wrote:
Those dogs are loud and obnoxious. I was trying to go for a nice run down the dirt road in Jeremy Ranch when Pawsatch Snow Dogs showed up with their 18 dogs and 2 RV's. They were using a sled with wheels to take two people on a private "sled dog experience." The lady in charge of the operation said they charge $250 in the off season, and more in the winter when there is snow. So, in my opinion, even if they aren't operating out of their home, they need a business permit. And if they are using a road, used by many locals to exercise on, it is ANNOYING to get nearly run over by a heard of yapping dogs. And if the dogs aren't enough, the two ATVs splashing mud all over the place and emitting fumes really stinks! I've never seen anything like Pawsatch and I'd personally pay $250 to keep them away from me.
I think this is an amazing business and I think we, as a community, should embrace it! As others have said, where else could you do such a thing? I do have a few other points to make...

1) Above all, this is a resort town. It is not simply a second home getaway area. People come here for a resort experience. If families with children are coming to PC for 7 days, without being used to putting in 40+ days a season, they can't handle skiing for 7 days straight. It's great that there is something else to offer those families, like dog sledding!

2) In the recession we are currently in, how can ANY member of this community "poo poo" the idea of a business doing well? That person clearly does not care about the community, but rather about themselves.

3) Having grown up in Alaska, I tell people about my experiences. I was lucky enough to get a ride on a Iditarod winning sled in kindergarten, and that has stayed with me for my entire life. I will never forget it- it truly is an amazing experience. Why would you think of your own selfish reasons to not allow someone to enjoy such a special experience?

4) Finally, as an owner of three dogs, I understand the need to comply with local laws and regulations. While, in my personal opinion, I think the neighbors are being VERY NIMBY... it would do the owner well to abide by the laws. Give the guy the kennel permit and be done with it.

If the council decides this man can't have his dogs on HIS land, I think they are not looking out for what is best for Summit County. Period. If that is the case, then why are they our elected leaders? If a business is doing well, in this economy, why try to shut them down? That is simply absurd.

And finally, to the "pc local girl"... I wish I had the words to express my absolute disbelief that someone could be so conceited, self righteous, and ignorant. That is all.
Eyeball

United States

#12 Nov 13, 2010
two cents wrote:
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I think this is an amazing business and I think we, as a community, should embrace it! As others have said, where else could you do such a thing? I do have a few other points to make...
1) Above all, this is a resort town. It is not simply a second home getaway area. People come here for a resort experience. If families with children are coming to PC for 7 days, without being used to putting in 40+ days a season, they can't handle skiing for 7 days straight. It's great that there is something else to offer those families, like dog sledding!
2) In the recession we are currently in, how can ANY member of this community "poo poo" the idea of a business doing well? That person clearly does not care about the community, but rather about themselves.
3) Having grown up in Alaska, I tell people about my experiences. I was lucky enough to get a ride on a Iditarod winning sled in kindergarten, and that has stayed with me for my entire life. I will never forget it- it truly is an amazing experience. Why would you think of your own selfish reasons to not allow someone to enjoy such a special experience?
4) Finally, as an owner of three dogs, I understand the need to comply with local laws and regulations. While, in my personal opinion, I think the neighbors are being VERY NIMBY... it would do the owner well to abide by the laws. Give the guy the kennel permit and be done with it.
If the council decides this man can't have his dogs on HIS land, I think they are not looking out for what is best for Summit County. Period. If that is the case, then why are they our elected leaders? If a business is doing well, in this economy, why try to shut them down? That is simply absurd.
And finally, to the "pc local girl"... I wish I had the words to express my absolute disbelief that someone could be so conceited, self righteous, and ignorant. That is all.
Well said!
Darren Lee

Salt Lake City, UT

#13 Nov 13, 2010
The Bowlens are a fantastic family and their dogs are a part of that family. I know Neal takes great measures to make sure that those around him are not inconvenienced by his pets!
Neighbors need to work together and there are other ways of doing that then running to the County Counsil... Did the complaintant in question ever try to express his concerns to Neal or does he just want that whole area for himself? If so he should buy it then!
Debbie

Salt Lake City, UT

#14 Nov 16, 2010
local girl wrote:
Those dogs are loud and obnoxious. I was trying to go for a nice run down the dirt road in Jeremy Ranch when Pawsatch Snow Dogs showed up with their 18 dogs and 2 RV's. They were using a sled with wheels to take two people on a private "sled dog experience." The lady in charge of the operation said they charge $250 in the off season, and more in the winter when there is snow. So, in my opinion, even if they aren't operating out of their home, they need a business permit. And if they are using a road, used by many locals to exercise on, it is ANNOYING to get nearly run over by a heard of yapping dogs. And if the dogs aren't enough, the two ATVs splashing mud all over the place and emitting fumes really stinks! I've never seen anything like Pawsatch and I'd personally pay $250 to keep them away from me.
I think you are not local girl....i think your real name is Bob Berube and you are just in hiding with 17 cans of pepper spray ready to get the "annoying" dogs. Come on grow up and get over it....i
Debbie

Salt Lake City, UT

#15 Nov 16, 2010
Eyeball wrote:
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Well said!
I agree
Tammy Drain

Salt Lake City, UT

#16 Nov 16, 2010
local girl wrote:
Those dogs are loud and obnoxious. I was trying to go for a nice run down the dirt road in Jeremy Ranch when Pawsatch Snow Dogs showed up with their 18 dogs and 2 RV's. They were using a sled with wheels to take two people on a private "sled dog experience." The lady in charge of the operation said they charge $250 in the off season, and more in the winter when there is snow. So, in my opinion, even if they aren't operating out of their home, they need a business permit. And if they are using a road, used by many locals to exercise on, it is ANNOYING to get nearly run over by a heard of yapping dogs. And if the dogs aren't enough, the two ATVs splashing mud all over the place and emitting fumes really stinks! I've never seen anything like Pawsatch and I'd personally pay $250 to keep them away from me.
MOVE....my suggestion to you
Debbie N

Salt Lake City, UT

#17 Nov 16, 2010
Peter Kemp wrote:
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Jeepers what a grinch.
A few years back, while living in Atlanta, I was visiting Wyoming for several days during winter, and had the opportunity to take an all-day sled dog trip. There were a large number of dogs, and probably 6-10 sleds, can't remember how many. It included a stop at at some hot springs mid-day (we were told to bring suits...what a cool thing to dogsled in single digit winter wonderland, out to hot springs, and then we stopped along the route back for an outdoor lunch of grilled steak and trout. It was an amazing day, and yes, not cheap. But I remember going back home thinking "What a COOL thing to be able to do!" As another poster wrote, how many people get to experience that in their lives? Not many.
We get to live in a place that others travel thousands of miles to get to, on an expensive vacation, in order to enjoy for just a few days the unique activities we can enjoy or witness on a daily basis.
The fact that we can hike or snowshoe or run on a trail, and come across a dogsled team...is extremely cool in my book, and another example of what makes it so great to live here.
Peter I really like the way you think.
double standard

Park City, UT

#20 Nov 24, 2010
I think it is interesting that Summit County is so intensely involved in the complaint of one neighbor, but yet I live in a place within summit county that has a neighbor with 5 + dogs and now a litter of 5 + mixed breed puppies...one of the dogs has attacked a woman and her dog that was on a leash and the owner was reported for this to summit County animal control and the dogs are STILL there!!! The dogs are a nusance and a threat as they run off leash and onto our property and threaten our dogs that are leashed and licenced.

If Summit cannot control this threat...why target a thriving small business that is providing a resort service and penalize a person who is trying to jump through all the right hoops and not break the law. Neal's dogs are all vet cared for, neutered and spayed, vaccinated and in excellent condition. He moved onto this property to have the dogs near him as pets and to keep them as members of his family rather than do what many dog breeders do which is kennel and ignore and sell sell sell puppies.

To the lady who does not like them on the trail....run somewhere else. I am not crazy about being on trails with skiers or mountain bikers...I don't take it out on them..I just go elsewhere to exercise my dogs and myself.
Noolah Pet

Jackson, WY

#21 Feb 4, 2011
It is heart warming to see the dogs loved and taken care of.
And if i were jogging or hiking on the road and saw all the dogs i would give them the right of way just because i am not annoyed with animals or people or myself or the road. We are all here 2getha baybee! So lets do this world!
Park City

Salt Lake City, UT

#22 Feb 5, 2011
local girl wrote:
Those dogs are loud and obnoxious. I was trying to go for a nice run down the dirt road in Jeremy Ranch when Pawsatch Snow Dogs showed up with their 18 dogs and 2 RV's. They were using a sled with wheels to take two people on a private "sled dog experience." The lady in charge of the operation said they charge $250 in the off season, and more in the winter when there is snow. So, in my opinion, even if they aren't operating out of their home, they need a business permit. And if they are using a road, used by many locals to exercise on, it is ANNOYING to get nearly run over by a heard of yapping dogs. And if the dogs aren't enough, the two ATVs splashing mud all over the place and emitting fumes really stinks! I've never seen anything like Pawsatch and I'd personally pay $250 to keep them away from me.
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