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Sheriff tries to fend off critics - The Park Record

There are 188 comments on the Park Record story from Sep 24, 2010, titled Sheriff tries to fend off critics - The Park Record. In it, Park Record reports that:

With the election just more than a month away, Summit County Sheriff Dave Edmunds may be facing more criticism than the two-term incumbent ever has before in his political career.

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another lie

Salt Lake City, UT

#165 Sep 30, 2010
Who Knows wrote:
<quoted text>I get the feeling you are one of Edmunds clones. If it comes to it I will provide the info needed. Right now I am just writing what happened to me. No I dont lie I dont have any reason of why to lie. I like how this inmediatelly becomes a crime. So what his office did of lie about my cert. to POST is not. Well I think you need to look around just a bit more careful.
You are just a racist. You and that low dave. The two of you are racist and hate anything to do with Obama. Everybody knows that if you disagree with Obama you are racist. I know your type, all the sweet talk and free beers, but then watch out. The racist comes out. Just admit it, you hate Obama. I bet you even have a commie flag in your garage. How many times have you been to Cuba?
Jeenyus

Orem, UT

#166 Oct 1, 2010
another lie wrote:
<quoted text>You are just a racist. You and that low dave. The two of you are racist and hate anything to do with Obama. Everybody knows that if you disagree with Obama you are racist. I know your type, all the sweet talk and free beers, but then watch out. The racist comes out. Just admit it, you hate Obama. I bet you even have a **** flag in your garage. How many times have you been to Cuba?
I hate Obama, so there. You're an idiot.
NSummit

Oakley, UT

#167 Oct 1, 2010
Just wondering If Edmunds And Dax Are reading any of this. Ok Just give me one good reason I should Vote For ether One. In My opion I dont think ether should get my vote, The way I see it we are in for another 4 years of H3ll one way or the other. The way everyone on here is making it out be there is more down falls on both sides.
Obama keeping score

Kaysville, UT

#168 Oct 1, 2010
Jeenyus wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate Obama, so there. You're an idiot.
Once Obama gets his internet freedom bill through congress next month we will be able to identify you Obama haters and get you into reeducation camps. Just like our dear leader Obama said last year,'we are keeing score, brother." I can't wait for you Obahma haters to be marched down main street to the new culural center so you can be enlighten. Obama in 2012.
what it is

Charlotte, NC

#169 Oct 1, 2010
You're quite right NSummit. Most of the rhetoric is biased emotional comments based on who they support. The only substantial kernels you can gleen from all of the comments is that some people don't like the way Edmunds is running his position and some people don't think Dax is qualified. Both points are relevant. The important thing for Dax/Edmunds is to listen and respond to the complaints. Should Edmunds care that people have a bad image of his force as a gestapo? Yes, of course he should. He serves the people of the community. Is his team pulling over drivers at a higher rate than other cities for small infractions? Yes, most likely. But, there is proably a reason. Maybe it's dangerous and he wants people to think twice while driving in that area. He should address this. PR is not rocket science. Address the problem, let people know you care and find a solution that works. Is Edmunds overbearing and aggressive at times with his force--probably, but he is in a high-pressure position and this might be the best way for him personally to motivate his team. On another note, so should Dax address the complaints that his education is not what it should be for a position with such power. Does he have the ability to lead an office of people with a budget of twelve million dollars? A proper education is important. However, my service in the military has taught me that great leadership comes from within. It isn't earned, it is a part of you. Of course, an education doesn't hurt either. These are questions both of them need to address and answer well enough to justify being sheriff. Can each be a successful sheriff given their abilities? Of course. These are two good, intelligent men who have differing qualities and perspectives on the sheriff's office, but the same goal. It really comes down to whether or not you want change. If you do, vote Dax. If you don't, vote Edmunds. Simple as that.
no they are not equal

Kaysville, UT

#170 Oct 1, 2010
what it is wrote:
You're quite right NSummit. Most of the rhetoric is biased emotional comments based on who they support. The only substantial kernels you can gleen from all of the comments is that some people don't like the way Edmunds is running his position and some people don't think Dax is qualified. Both points are relevant. The important thing for Dax/Edmunds is to listen and respond to the complaints. Should Edmunds care that people have a bad image of his force as a gestapo? Yes, of course he should. He serves the people of the community. Is his team pulling over drivers at a higher rate than other cities for small infractions? Yes, most likely. But, there is proably a reason. Maybe it's dangerous and he wants people to think twice while driving in that area. He should address this. PR is not rocket science. Address the problem, let people know you care and find a solution that works. Is Edmunds overbearing and aggressive at times with his force--probably, but he is in a high-pressure position and this might be the best way for him personally to motivate his team. On another note, so should Dax address the complaints that his education is not what it should be for a position with such power. Does he have the ability to lead an office of people with a budget of twelve million dollars? A proper education is important. However, my service in the military has taught me that great leadership comes from within. It isn't earned, it is a part of you. Of course, an education doesn't hurt either. These are questions both of them need to address and answer well enough to justify being sheriff. Can each be a successful sheriff given their abilities? Of course. These are two good, intelligent men who have differing qualities and perspectives on the sheriff's office, but the same goal. It really comes down to whether or not you want change. If you do, vote Dax. If you don't, vote Edmunds. Simple as that.
There are 2 or 3 nut cases on here, probably Dax himself, who spread lies and rumors about Edmunds. One poster on here said these 2 or 3 posters have the same IP adress. They just spread lies without providing dates or events or people who witnessed the actions. If I hear one more moron talk about "change" without addressing what change. We have become an un-educated people who vote based on rumor and catch phrases.
NSummit

Oakley, UT

#171 Oct 1, 2010
no they are not equal wrote:
<quoted text>There are 2 or 3 nut cases on here, probably Dax himself, who spread lies and rumors about Edmunds. One poster on here said these 2 or 3 posters have the same IP adress. They just spread lies without providing dates or events or people who witnessed the actions. If I hear one more moron talk about "change" without addressing what change. We have become an un-educated people who vote based on rumor and catch phrases.
How does anyone know your not the nut. Just saying to make a point. I would like a change But that doesnt mean sir, that I am a moron. Do you live here. Do your kids go to school here. Well I do live here and my kids do go to school here. I just want the change for safety, for my kids. I live in north summit and when it take hours for a deputy shows up because I called for the fear of My kids safety, when speeders are trying to run them over. Not once but several times. There needs to be a change. Ether Edmunds or Dax. Thats why I want to know why I should vote for them.
what it is

Charlotte, NC

#172 Oct 1, 2010
no they are not equal wrote:
<quoted text>There are 2 or 3 nut cases on here, probably Dax himself, who spread lies and rumors about Edmunds. One poster on here said these 2 or 3 posters have the same IP adress. They just spread lies without providing dates or events or people who witnessed the actions. If I hear one more moron talk about "change" without addressing what change. We have become an un-educated people who vote based on rumor and catch phrases.
That's a good question that deserves some attention. If you went door to door and asked each person in the community what change they would like to see in the sheriff's office, you would get a wide range of answers. It would be interesting to read that list. Since you asked me, I'd say that Edmund's biggest PR issue is that his office isn't perceived as connecting well with the community and is looked upon as an outsider. In his defense, it's difficult for a police force to balance enforcing the law with being a positive, connected and welcome fixture in the community. We're not living in the 50s and this isn't Mayberry. Edmund's could do more to alleviate the perception of him as running a gestapo. Of course, if he isn't able to overcome that image, then the community may or may not vote for a "change" to something new.
NSummit

Oakley, UT

#173 Oct 1, 2010
what it is wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a good question that deserves some attention. If you went door to door and asked each person in the community what change they would like to see in the sheriff's office, you would get a wide range of answers. It would be interesting to read that list. Since you asked me, I'd say that Edmund's biggest PR issue is that his office isn't perceived as connecting well with the community and is looked upon as an outsider. In his defense, it's difficult for a police force to balance enforcing the law with being a positive, connected and welcome fixture in the community. We're not living in the 50s and this isn't Mayberry. Edmund's could do more to alleviate the perception of him as running a gestapo. Of course, if he isn't able to overcome that image, then the community may or may not vote for a "change" to something new.
I for one would like to see More duptys Around my coummuinty and not just congregated around Park City. This is Summit county too. Not before everyone says "oh they do patrol All of it". Yea they do But Not like they should. Heck alot of them live here and most dont even have a patrol here. Now Im not saying we have to have them posted on every street, but aleast one with in ear shot so when you call for a problem, they dont take hours to show up to help

Since: Jan 10

Park City

#174 Oct 1, 2010
The responses from the Edmunds supporters have been nothing more than insulting, belittling, bullying and downright mean. This is indicative of the attitude that we do not appreciate from OUR Sheriffs department. This is the way we as taxpayers, landowners and patrons feel we are being treated. I welcome a reasoned counter point.

Cheers,
Who Knows

Salt Lake City, UT

#175 Oct 1, 2010
lower case dave wrote:
The responses from the Edmunds supporters have been nothing more than insulting, belittling, bullying and downright mean. This is indicative of the attitude that we do not appreciate from OUR Sheriffs department. This is the way we as taxpayers, landowners and patrons feel we are being treated. I welcome a reasoned counter point.
Cheers,
All I can say to you lower case dave is the fact that Edmunds does threaten his deputies. Right there you just said right up all his supporters are "insulting,belittling, bullying and downright mean". I agree with you 100 % even though I have been told I need help by one of his supporter. Look around and see who needs help. All I can say Mr Edmunds is a thief he has rob the county a lot of money by completing all his education, like I have said before nobody would have been able to attend the FBI academy and no less than a Masters Degree. There is nothing wrong with someone completing an education, but do it the same way everyone else would.
hey hey man

Kaysville, UT

#176 Oct 1, 2010
lower case dave wrote:
The responses from the Edmunds supporters have been nothing more than insulting, belittling, bullying and downright mean. This is indicative of the attitude that we do not appreciate from OUR Sheriffs department. This is the way we as taxpayers, landowners and patrons feel we are being treated. I welcome a reasoned counter point.
Cheers,
When did you get out of jail? I thought you had another year to go. Those were sure some good times in joint with all the guys. I still owe you a good one.
more crazy talk

Kaysville, UT

#177 Oct 1, 2010
Who Knows wrote:
<quoted text>All I can say to you lower case dave is the fact that Edmunds does threaten his deputies. Right there you just said right up all his supporters are "insulting,belittling, bullying and downright mean". I agree with you 100 % even though I have been told I need help by one of his supporter. Look around and see who needs help. All I can say Mr Edmunds is a thief he has rob the county a lot of money by completing all his education, like I have said before nobody would have been able to attend the FBI academy and no less than a Masters Degree. There is nothing wrong with someone completing an education, but do it the same way everyone else would.
You sound like a communist, "do it the same way everyone else would". The educational opportunities afforded our law enforcement is a county wide program for the betterment of our county employees. We, the county tax payers, do this program to help and retain our county employees. It is a program available to all county employees, not just the people you like.
patrol follow crime

Kaysville, UT

#178 Oct 1, 2010
NSummit wrote:
<quoted text>
I for one would like to see More duptys Around my coummuinty and not just congregated around Park City. This is Summit county too. Not before everyone says "oh they do patrol All of it". Yea they do But Not like they should. Heck alot of them live here and most dont even have a patrol here. Now Im not saying we have to have them posted on every street, but aleast one with in ear shot so when you call for a problem, they dont take hours to show up to help
Follow the illegals. The police and sheriffs patrol higher crime areas that by chance happen to be where illegals live. Need a cop, go west of kimball junction, go by affordable housing, follow the crime.

Since: Jan 10

Park City

#179 Oct 1, 2010
hey hey man wrote:
<quoted text>When did you get out of jail? I thought you had another year to go. Those were sure some good times in joint with all the guys. I still owe you a good one.
You make my point.
NSummit

Oakley, UT

#180 Oct 1, 2010
patrol follow crime wrote:
<quoted text>Follow the illegals. The police and sheriffs patrol higher crime areas that by chance happen to be where illegals live. Need a cop, go west of kimball junction, go by affordable housing, follow the crime.
So you are trying to tell me that In order to have a the police do their job, It can only be with Illegals involed in crime. Where have you living, Under a rock? Grow up.
So say someone ran a red light It was a Illegal that did it. Not the guy who was not paying attention. Enteresting Thory
NSummit

Oakley, UT

#181 Oct 1, 2010
Oh It wasnt not the kid that just got his new car that tryed to run over my kids on thier way to school. It was illegals. Acording to you patrol follow crime I saw the kid who did it
Jeenyus

Dallas, TX

#182 Oct 2, 2010
Obama keeping score wrote:
<quoted text>Once Obama gets his internet freedom bill through congress next month we will be able to identify you Obama haters and get you into reeducation camps. Just like our dear leader Obama said last year,'we are keeing score, brother." I can't wait for you Obahma haters to be marched down main street to the new culural center so you can be enlighten. Obama in 2012.
My god! You're stupid.
what is stupid or not tru

Salt Lake City, UT

#183 Oct 2, 2010
Jeenyus wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama keeping score wrote:
<quoted text>Once Obama gets his internet freedom bill through congress next month we will be able to identify you Obama haters and get you into reeducation camps. Just like our dear leader Obama said last year,'we are keeing score, brother." I can't wait for you Obahma haters to be marched down main street to the new culural center so you can be enlighten. Obama in 2012.
My god! You're stupidMy god! You're stupid.
What is stupid or not true?
1. The internet freedom bill as it is called by Obama pushed through the democrat congress last Thursday allows the White House to read emails on all, that ALLs mobile devices including emails from anywhere. Front page of the Huffington Post
2. Both of Obamas books co-authored by Bill Ayers speak and reference a re-education system for individuals who do not conform to the "new" educational standards imposed by the federal regulaters. Washington Post.
3. A direct quote last year from Obama to a democrat member of congress who questioned Obamas authority to push the massive spending bills through congress, "we are keeing score, brother."
4. The new Mosque/cultural center open Oct 3 downtown park city with stimulas money. Park Record
5. How many times have you heard or read somebody called a racist or stupid because they are "not enlighten" by Obamas directives and thought. New York Times

Stupid is the lack of intelligence, the word to describe you is dumb, that is the lack of knowledge. Gain a little knowledge before you attack somebody in defense of your God Obama.
Curious

Park City, UT

#184 Oct 2, 2010
How many points do you get for yelling out your window while making a turn telling a citizen (That's against the law Buddy!!) and then making a abrupt U turn and pulling someone over because while he was sitting at a stop light he let his Schnauzer poke his head out his window? What type of college course teaches you to yell out the window of your patrol truck? Maybe instead of spending all this time taking free classes you should get in touch with what your policies and what the effect it's having on law abiding citizens! If this is what you learned on your free education then it was just another waste of tax payer money! What about the real infractions that drive by unnoticed while 4 deputies search a soccer moms SUV? This is out of control, we need a change what about term limits? VOTE FOR A CHANGE!!

SHANE FOR SHERIFF!!!

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