Sheriff tries to fend off critics - The Park Record

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With the election just more than a month away, Summit County Sheriff Dave Edmunds may be facing more criticism than the two-term incumbent ever has before in his political career.
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Since: Jan 10

Park City

#1 Sep 24, 2010
Edmunds is so out of touch with the citizens that pay his salary. He will never directly address the subject of his henchmen harassing the citizens of our county.
concerned

United States

#2 Sep 24, 2010
Edmunds has no leg to stand on when it comes to qualifications. When he was elected Sheriff in 2002 he had no education and never held an administrative position unless he toots his made up captain position for the Olympics, which was taken away right after the Olympics. He worked for small agencies. Once in office the tax payers of Summit County paid for his BS and MPA, some of us have to do that on our own and frankly a police officer salary is to low to pay for such things.

As for pay not being tied to the quota system Edmunds has implaced, it absolutely is. Deputies are rated and receive their merit increases on the number of points they get. If they are active and write 1000 tickets they will have a much higher rating than there other platoon members. Therefore getting a higher merit score and merit pay increase.

Edmunds is out of touch with the citizens of Summit County and needs to go.
Edmunds Posse member

West Jordan, UT

#3 Sep 24, 2010
I've seen Sheriff Edmunds official quota system. I work in the Sheriff's office and I like it just fine. You can earn 15 points for a DUI pullover but only get 1 point for helping a citizen in duress. What's wrong with that. Helping a citizen in duress requires real work and is not nearly as much fun as forcing a civilain to walk down the highway with his hand on his head before I cuff them and impound the car.
Edmunds is a Monster

Sandy, UT

#4 Sep 24, 2010
Finally we have tangible proof that this man and his "Posse" (his term, not mine) are totally out of control. This man publicly stated in his latest ad that all of us that live in Summit County want officers that are intimidating. Not everyone is a criminal, and not everyone wants to be treated like one. Just a little over a month left of this Hitler regime. I hope Dax gets rid of those black vehicles as well. We need to reverse the national reputation that our town has earned as a place that is overbearing and hostile towards its citizens and visitors. Ask any bar or restaurant owner on Main Street what this man and his posse have done for business. The numbers have fallen off a cliff. His tactics do work though, people are scared to leave their homes. I can't wait to see Edmunds booted out of office.
MSBO

United States

#5 Sep 24, 2010
I have lived in Summit County for 12 years. I moved here from Atlanta, where my house was ransacked and I was mugged. Here is Park City / Summit County, I can leave my doors un-locked and sometimes leave my purse in the car. The bottom line is I feel safe here. I also have a lead foot so I am pulled over, I have no one to blame but myself. I don't care what Edmunds credentials were in 2002. This is 2010 and thankfully, we all have a lot of bigger issues to worry about than crime and that is thanks to Sheriff Edmunds.
Ask a Deputy

Brigham City, UT

#6 Sep 24, 2010
The campaign rhetoric being spewed by Dax Shane and his band of merry idiots is amazing. I am a Deputy at the Summit County Sheriff's Office. I have never harassed the public, I have never enforced a law that shouldn't have been for a "point", and I am fully backing Sheriff Edmunds. Prior to this bid system, many of us had no say about our schedule. What Sheriff Edmunds has done has improved morale for his deputies and made us feel like we have a sense of ownership and pride in our workplace and in our County. You can earn 15 points for making the most DUI arrests in a year. One Deputy gets that award and its limited to 15 points. I can have an unlimited number of citizen contacts and get one point for each. They are actually far more common place than DUIS. The are awarded to all deputies and I believe some deputies achieved 25 or more points last year. It is a flat out lie that Summit County Deputies are harassing the citizens of Summit County. I am proud to work with a good bunch of professional men and women and for a Sheriff who cares about his community and his people. I don't care what color the cars are, but I am glad that the band if misfits who blogged before me don't work with me anymore or were never hired. Good riddance. Summit County has not paid one dime of Sheriff Edmunds tuition because the County has no educational incentive program, even though the Sheriff has fought for it many times. I do have a degree and I earned it while I was working as a police officer. Those with initiative can accomplish whatever they so choose. Mr.. Shane has no initiative, other than to run for an Office than he is not qualified to hold. I have many friends at SLCPD, and I know of Mr. Shane's less than stellar past. Not everyone can get thrown out of an academy for cheating and keep their job. An excellent accomplishment Dax! Bafoon, Moron, worst report writer in the department. These are the descriptors used by the real Officers at SLCPD to describe Mr. Shane. This baseless fear mongering is irresponsible and a slap in the face to the men and women you hope to be leading in a couple of months. A great way to start out. Vote EDMUNDS!
art and film

Salt Lake City, UT

#9 Sep 24, 2010
Ask a Deputy: Did Mr Shane get thrown out of the academy for cheating?
MSBO: You give Edmunds credit for your secure feelings here?
I think its the people that live in this community that give you security. We are giving and wonderful people here...no thanks to the police state that has been instituted.
We have extra police here because there are times when tourists impact our area in the tens of thousands of numbers. The police feel they need to keep a certain 'stock' of officers. Locals have to bear the idle time the officers have in between the times the herds visit. The thanks we get is constant 'supervision', eager officers, looking for points. Enjoy!
I think its time to vote friends.
It's our money.
Ask a Deputy

Brigham City, UT

#10 Sep 24, 2010
art and film: According to the training Lt. at SLCPD who had first hand knowledge of the expulsion. Yes he did.

I agree with you wholeheartedly about the people of Summit County. That is why I choose to be an Deputy here. Professional police protect our civil liberties and enforce the laws that we the people have created. I wouldn't say we have "extra" police. If fact the ratio of officers compared to the population is much lower in Utah that in many states. Police officers are paid to protect and serve, and although biased, I think the ones in Summit County and park City do an outstanding job. A safe community is a partnership between police and citizens and I think we have a very good partnership in Summit County. Being a police officer is a difficult job, and being the Sheriff is even tougher. I have a lot of friends that wouldn't make very good Sheriffs. I will stick to the one with the training, education, and experience who believes in his deputies and the job we do, thank you very much.
Jeenyus

Fort Worth, TX

#11 Sep 24, 2010
Edmunds Posse member wrote:
I've seen Sheriff Edmunds official quota system. I work in the Sheriff's office and I like it just fine. You can earn 15 points for a DUI pullover but only get 1 point for helping a citizen in duress. What's wrong with that. Helping a citizen in duress requires real work and is not nearly as much fun as forcing a civilain to walk down the highway with his hand on his head before I cuff them and impound the car.

Our Sheriffs under Edmunds are doing a fantastic job. You're no Sheriff. You're an idiot & probably a drunk driver.
Jeenyus

Fort Worth, TX

#12 Sep 24, 2010
Edmunds is a Monster wrote:
Finally we have tangible proof that this man and his "Posse" (his term, not mine) are totally out of control. This man publicly stated in his latest ad that all of us that live in Summit County want officers that are intimidating. Not everyone is a criminal, and not everyone wants to be treated like one. Just a little over a month left of this Hitler regime. I hope Dax gets rid of those black vehicles as well. We need to reverse the national reputation that our town has earned as a place that is overbearing and hostile towards its citizens and visitors. Ask any bar or restaurant owner on Main Street what this man and his posse have done for business. The numbers have fallen off a cliff. His tactics do work though, people are scared to leave their homes. I can't wait to see Edmunds booted out of office.
You're right. They should be issued pink Prius fleet vehicles. Would that better comfort you? If they've pulled you over in the past, it's because you've broken the law. Cry baby.
Andy

Apo, AE

#13 Sep 25, 2010
Typical Democrat. Criticizing an incentive for Deputies doing their job! I’m with you Dax! Let’s pay Police officers to eat doughnuts and drink coffee! No need to issue tickets. Why that’s cruel and insensitive! IDIOT!
Andy

Apo, AE

#14 Sep 25, 2010
You people make me sick. What you want is no law enforcement at all! That's called "Anarchy". Let's get real. Sherriff Edmonds has done a fine job and so have his deputies. I've had a couple of occasions to contact the Sherriff's Office and each time, the Deputy I spoke with was polite, professional and efficient. This "Police State" you wkack jobs are talking about it a total lie. If you don't break the law, they won't bother you. If you need them they are there! That's the bottom line!
Edmonds Support

United States

#15 Sep 25, 2010
Dax Shane is not qualified to hold the position. For those of you that think Dax would make a good Sheriff are up in the night. He was kicked out of the police academy for cheating and then let back in. Is that really the guy you want running the police in this community. Maybe some smart reporter should request his personnel file from Salt Lake and print the facts on Dax Shane. Now that would be some good reading.
PC Resident

Draper, UT

#16 Sep 25, 2010
Edmunds is a Monster wrote:
Ask any bar or restaurant owner on Main Street what this man and his posse have done for business. The numbers have fallen off a cliff. His tactics do work though, people are scared to leave their homes. I can't wait to see Edmunds booted out of office.
How about asking those of us who don't have to worry about drunken idiots on the road? If you drink and drive you need, and deserve, to be picked up and taken to jail. From out of town, so what. Driving agressively and stopped.....suck it up.

Deal with facts and stop the mudslinging.
Dax Shane

Kamas, UT

#17 Sep 25, 2010
If you are interested in seeing the documentation for Summit County’s quota system it is posted on my website.
http://shaneforsheriff.com/blog/...
Dont listen to me

West Jordan, UT

#18 Sep 25, 2010
From what I have read and noticed on this comment boards is essentially what all americans are dealing with in terms of police interaction. There was a time in America where the police were your friends, now that has changed. Something to think about officer..

For the officer commenting on the board in support of Edmunds I have a few questions:
1: From your understanding and that of the force in general, how do you feel about the laws that are coming down that are in violation of the constitution and BOR?
2: Where do you stand on Illegal immigration and the enforcement there of?
3: What is the overall policy of warnings vs tickets on the force and how is that metered?
4: What steps are being take at the station to ensure our freedom and constitutional rights?

A concerned citizen
Get a life

United States

#19 Sep 25, 2010
Thank you Dax for showing us that Edmunds makes his deputies be accountable for the pay checks they earn. Oh, when you have a minute, could you post your police academy records for us?
Edmunds Reprehensible

Sandy, UT

#20 Sep 25, 2010
It's a well known fact that Edmunds has cleaned house in his department of anyone that is not a high flying cowboy that thinks like him. Sure, you Big Boy deputies love a quota system that rewards you for stopping people with their license plate lights out. That's easy work if you can get it. Why don't we stop harassing citizens and start fighting real crime?
Dont listen to me

West Jordan, UT

#21 Sep 25, 2010
I would like to re-address my questions to include Daxs and his input.

Thanks
Jeenyus

Orem, UT

#22 Sep 25, 2010
Edmunds Reprehensible wrote:
It's a well known fact that Edmunds has cleaned house in his department of anyone that is not a high flying cowboy that thinks like him. Sure, you Big Boy deputies love a quota system that rewards you for stopping people with their license plate lights out. That's easy work if you can get it. Why don't we stop harassing citizens and start fighting real crime?
If you were in Edmunds' shoes, how would you fight "real crime"? Did it ever occur to you that deputies, and police officers for that matter, are fighting "real crime" when they stop speeders like you? They've got a better chance of catching a car thief in a stolen car than by hiding in the bushes waiting for the theft to occur. They have a better chance of finding stolen property in a vehicle than amazingly finding a burglar climbing out of a window with a plasma TV.

You, and the many other police haters, have no credibility. You live in a hate filled fantacy land. Law enforcement is just that, law enforcement. So if you have a problem with getting pulled over, don't speed. If you have a problem with DUI's, don't drink and drive. You should be singing their prases.

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