Totall disgusted with APS..neighbor n...

Totall disgusted with APS..neighbor needs help bad..

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Oopsy

Paris, TX

#1 May 30, 2012
I am totally disgusted with APS ( Adult Protection Services). My neighbor fell through the cracks as far as getting any help for her. For one thing a 30 minutes, on my porch exam, by a doctor is not long enough to see the HIDDEN problems with this person.I asked people who know. When a person is in special classes in school and PJC, making D's and F's, has the mentality of a 10 year old as far as comman sense, etc goes, lives in terrible conditons beyond imagination, lets low life take what little she manages to get,...etc, etc.. why are they left to suffer? She is not CAPABLE of making decisions. Now she is without water, has no income, will soon not have lights or gas, her many animals that are suffering for lack of food, she has only food pantry food, and I fix her a plate of food every day. The house is totally unliveable with all the animals living in it, the hot water heater is a fire danger, according to a man who does home repair. He fixed some windows for her for free... Lord, I am a senior adult who seems to be the only one concerned for this young woman. It is horrible, and I don't know what else to do. She refuses to go to Models of the Maker because she would have to give up all those animals of hers. that should tell you something about her mental state in itself..Where do I turn? CPS told me " Don't feed her, don't feed the animals...then maybe she will decide to go to Models of the Maker. She is scared to go. She heard bad things about them from her low life friends, who no longer come around because she is broke. She will NEVER go on her own. I know her. She thinks like my 9 year old grandkids..APS, you KNOW who I am talking about...and I won't let this rest. I will GO OVER YOUR HEAD...I am going to write many letters...She WILL NOT fall through the cracks..Not if I can help it. Hopefully the judge can put a bee under someone..If not, I have other avenues. I won't quit...
Oopsy

Paris, TX

#2 May 30, 2012
and the animal shelter won't do anything. My neighbor just called to borrow my shovel. She is burying another dead animal. She thinks snakes are killing them. I told her they are starving.
selections

Paris, TX

#3 May 30, 2012
Call your Congressman and report APS. Keep calling whomever you think will listen, because somebody will HAVE to do something. You are the true definition of "a neighbor". May God bless your sweet heart!

Since: Jan 12

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#4 May 30, 2012
Sometimes you just have to let people live their lives the way they see fit, even if it's not the way you would live yours. If she's not willing to get the help she needs, there's nothing you can do.
friend

Lithonia, GA

#5 May 30, 2012
If she has a physician try he or she may be able to push aps a little harder to do something. General rule of thumb is if no water in home that is a deal breaker for aps.
sick and tired of it

Paris, TX

#6 May 30, 2012
Nobody Gets It wrote:
Sometimes you just have to let people live their lives the way they see fit, even if it's not the way you would live yours. If she's not willing to get the help she needs, there's nothing you can do.
I agree with you about letting people live their own lives, but this person is mentally unable to make decisions concerning her welfare. It's like taking a 9 year old and letting that 9 year old live on his own. You know that's a disaster in the making. So it is with a mentally disabled person. The neighbor is concerned and rightly so.
sick and tired of it

Paris, TX

#7 May 30, 2012
friend wrote:
If she has a physician try he or she may be able to push aps a little harder to do something. General rule of thumb is if no water in home that is a deal breaker for aps.
I agree. The no water is the clincher.
Oopsy

Paris, TX

#8 May 30, 2012
Well, I hear the animal shelter guy is on his way out...Pray that some of the animals will be taken, so they won't die of starvation or worse. She will hate me, but it's for her own good. Poor animals. I hope, if they take them, that some will find homes. They are adoptable ( some are).But, she needs help, too..
So So Sad

Paris, TX

#9 May 30, 2012
Oopsy wrote:
I am totally disgusted with APS ( Adult Protection Services). My neighbor fell through the cracks as far as getting any help for her. For one thing a 30 minutes, on my porch exam, by a doctor is not long enough to see the HIDDEN problems with this person.I asked people who know. When a person is in special classes in school and PJC, making D's and F's, has the mentality of a 10 year old as far as comman sense, etc goes, lives in terrible conditons beyond imagination, lets low life take what little she manages to get,...etc, etc.. why are they left to suffer? She is not CAPABLE of making decisions. Now she is without water, has no income, will soon not have lights or gas, her many animals that are suffering for lack of food, she has only food pantry food, and I fix her a plate of food every day. The house is totally unliveable with all the animals living in it, the hot water heater is a fire danger, according to a man who does home repair. He fixed some windows for her for free... Lord, I am a senior adult who seems to be the only one concerned for this young woman. It is horrible, and I don't know what else to do. She refuses to go to Models of the Maker because she would have to give up all those animals of hers. that should tell you something about her mental state in itself..Where do I turn? CPS told me " Don't feed her, don't feed the animals...then maybe she will decide to go to Models of the Maker. She is scared to go. She heard bad things about them from her low life friends, who no longer come around because she is broke. She will NEVER go on her own. I know her. She thinks like my 9 year old grandkids..APS, you KNOW who I am talking about...and I won't let this rest. I will GO OVER YOUR HEAD...I am going to write many letters...She WILL NOT fall through the cracks..Not if I can help it. Hopefully the judge can put a bee under someone..If not, I have other avenues. I won't quit...
Does she have family,SSI,who owns the house that she lives in?There is an ordinance that a person can only have so many animals.Ask Humane Ass.if they could help with animals and to educate the lady on animal care.Call some churches to see if they could help with a clean up at her house. Report some of her friends that are taking advantage of her to Police Dep.Then you can write your represanitive and Senator and say I have done all I know to do and I need help!God bless you for trying to help her. Keep me posted as to what has happened with your efforts because I do care. There are hundreds of people like this in Paris and all we can do is try to help one person at a time. If all else fails I am elderly and can't to much but I am willing to help as much as I can.
Oopsy

Paris, TX

#10 May 30, 2012
Her dad lives with someone.He barely scrapes by. Her mom died 2 years ago. The house is hers ( if you call it a house), her brother is in the pen, she did some special classes at PJC but flunked out with D's and F's. But, at least she had grant money ( which she did not handle well). She let so called "friends" take some of it..She is unemployable. We tried to help her get SSI. She needs doctor helping with that. If she did get a check, she would let others take advantage of her being generous. The bills would still not get paid. The house is in deplorable condition with all those animals inside. She has no air. Would not do any good anyway, as soon she will have no lights or gas. She owes 2 months bills. The water was cut off.I would report these friends, but I only know one name. I don't let them around me. She is easy to take advantage of.That is because of her childlike nature.It's a sad world sometimes.

“This too shall pass”

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#11 May 30, 2012
As for her house, call the health department to get them to come out and condemn it or somethig.
Call the State APS and tell them what you've said on here and that will get the ball rolling, I promise you.
Call Superville or Bill Harris' offices and see if they will or can do anything to help expidite the change.
Several of us tried to deal with an old man a few years back who was like she is. I had dropped out of the picture but found out later that another one of the women had found out it doesn't have to be a family member to get the rights to take care of the person. He was in very bad shape and she got him into a nursing home where he died, but at least he was clean and fed when he died. It sounds like she should be in one.

Try calling the Chief of Police also and Scott Cass, they will probably know of a way to get her help. I saw Scott do it with another lady once, and she just loves him to this day.

You also can call APS back and ask to speak to the supervisor of the person you say bombed it. If he/she isn't there, they can give you a number to reach them.

Good luck and God bless you for trying to help a helpless person.
If you need some help come back on here and say so, and I'll see if I can do anything.

“This too shall pass”

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#12 May 30, 2012
This is the state office for Adult Protective Services. I have to spell it since you can't post a number on here.......

one-eight hundred-six four seven- seven four one eight
Peace

Paris, TX

#13 May 30, 2012
Good advice, SF. Sounds like a really bad situation. It's very difficult dealing with people who have mental issues. You can tell them what is best for them till you are blue in the face, but they usually will not listen. I think a situation like this will take an intervention of some kind.
maybe

Paris, TX

#16 May 30, 2012
insted of taking away what little this woman has some of us should offer help..OOpsy email me so we can talk about the situation
gypsiecowgirl@yahoo.com
News Flash

Paris, TX

#17 May 30, 2012
Oopsy wrote:
I am totally disgusted with APS ( Adult Protection Services). My neighbor fell through the cracks as far as getting any help for her. For one thing a 30 minutes, on my porch exam, by a doctor is not long enough to see the HIDDEN problems with this person.I asked people who know. When a person is in special classes in school and PJC, making D's and F's, has the mentality of a 10 year old as far as comman sense, etc goes, lives in terrible conditons beyond imagination, lets low life take what little she manages to get,...etc, etc.. why are they left to suffer? She is not CAPABLE of making decisions. Now she is without water, has no income, will soon not have lights or gas, her many animals that are suffering for lack of food, she has only food pantry food, and I fix her a plate of food every day. The house is totally unliveable with all the animals living in it, the hot water heater is a fire danger, according to a man who does home repair. He fixed some windows for her for free... Lord, I am a senior adult who seems to be the only one concerned for this young woman. It is horrible, and I don't know what else to do. She refuses to go to Models of the Maker because she would have to give up all those animals of hers. that should tell you something about her mental state in itself..Where do I turn? CPS told me " Don't feed her, don't feed the animals...then maybe she will decide to go to Models of the Maker. She is scared to go. She heard bad things about them from her low life friends, who no longer come around because she is broke. She will NEVER go on her own. I know her. She thinks like my 9 year old grandkids..APS, you KNOW who I am talking about...and I won't let this rest. I will GO OVER YOUR HEAD...I am going to write many letters...She WILL NOT fall through the cracks..Not if I can help it. Hopefully the judge can put a bee under someone..If not, I have other avenues. I won't quit...
You can blame bleeding heart liberals. APS has guidelines they must go by. They can't just take someone against their will unless they meet specific criteria.
Oopsy

Paris, TX

#18 May 30, 2012
I've called and talked with APS until I'm blue in the face. This young woman I am trying to get help for is a kind and gentle person, who just refuses to give up her animals and go to the shelter, Models of the Maker. She will continue doing without just to keep that house and the many animals. It's all she has left of her mother ( the house)..but it unlivable. As of yet, none of these agencies will go inside. I have been inside. You don't want to go there. Humans should not have to live like that. I wn't describe it on here, but it is aweful living conditions. Her heath is in grave danger. I talked to the health departmet. They tell me they can't force her to let them inside to see the condition she is living in.....

“This too shall pass”

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#19 May 30, 2012
Oopsy wrote:
I've called and talked with APS until I'm blue in the face. This young woman I am trying to get help for is a kind and gentle person, who just refuses to give up her animals and go to the shelter, Models of the Maker. She will continue doing without just to keep that house and the many animals. It's all she has left of her mother ( the house)..but it unlivable. As of yet, none of these agencies will go inside. I have been inside. You don't want to go there. Humans should not have to live like that. I wn't describe it on here, but it is aweful living conditions. Her heath is in grave danger. I talked to the health departmet. They tell me they can't force her to let them inside to see the condition she is living in.....
Do you think someone could persuade her?
Oopsy

Paris, TX

#20 May 30, 2012
She won't. It upsets her to even be asked to give up her animals and that house.
Think I know her

Paris, TX

#21 May 30, 2012
Does her name start with a C?

“This too shall pass”

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#22 May 31, 2012
Oopsy wrote:
She won't. It upsets her to even be asked to give up her animals and that house.
I didn't make myself clear. I meant do you think she could be persuaded to allow the Health Dept. people in?

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