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Is Obama a "Nowhere Man"?

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He's a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody ...

He's as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere Man can you see me at all?

(Lennon, McCartney)

Here is a link to a very interesting article worth reading.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/when_o...
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Nov 11, 2009
 
Wow....you wonder if people are paying attention to what is happening......or are they just oblivious to what is taking place. This article pretty much says it all.
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Nov 11, 2009
 
So what do you think about it ootb? Do you think he hides emotion or has none to begin with?
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Nov 12, 2009
 
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So what do you think about it ootb? Do you think he hides emotion or has none to begin with?
I think what concerns me is that the things what he is emotional about and what he prioritizes as important politically, is in contrast to what makes America great.

We all have the right to have differing ideologies, but the job that he was elected to was to make decisions to better our Country as a whole according to and abiding by the Constitution .

Some people may say to be a politician, you better master the ability to hide emotions, or you will get steam-rolled. I just hope in the long run, he does have the Countries best interest at heart and not just a political agenda. IMO



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ootb wrote:
<quoted text>I think what concerns me is that the things what he is emotional about and what he prioritizes as important politically, is in contrast to what makes America great.
We all have the right to have differing ideologies, but the job that he was elected to was to make decisions to better our Country as a whole according to and abiding by the Constitution .
Some people may say to be a politician, you better master the ability to hide emotions, or you will get steam-rolled. I just hope in the long run, he does have the Countries best interest at heart and not just a political agenda. IMO
Sometimes to neutralize an emotion, I will look at it from the other side, but it doesn't always work. Politics is a popularity contest. To get in or stay in one must give the people what they want. They want the lower taxes. It looks good until the price of it is lower education, bad roads etc...

They want free health care. It sounds good until they are unable to get in to see a doctor, or there are few resources to meet the health needs.
People want doctors that are educated. 8-11 years of school to be in debt out of their eyeballs to help people, who will in turn sue them for a mistake, creates a why go through that for that attitude.
I don't know if we are continuing to prioritize for short term, or if people are unable to see consequences and ripple effects.

To me, the greatest thing about America was the abundant natural resources and the freedom. We are sucking her dry of those incredible things. I don't think they are priority in anyone's political agenda that is actually going to make it, because most in the country have short term thinking, and they are the ones electing.

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Sometimes to neutralize an emotion, I will look at it from the other side, but it doesn't always work. Politics is a popularity contest. To get in or stay in one must give the people what they want. They want the lower taxes. It looks good until the price of it is lower education, bad roads etc...
They want free health care. It sounds good until they are unable to get in to see a doctor, or there are few resources to meet the health needs.
People want doctors that are educated. 8-11 years of school to be in debt out of their eyeballs to help people, who will in turn sue them for a mistake, creates a why go through that for that attitude.
I don't know if we are continuing to prioritize for short term, or if people are unable to see consequences and ripple effects.
To me, the greatest thing about America was the abundant natural resources and the freedom. We are sucking her dry of those incredible things. I don't think they are priority in anyone's political agenda that is actually going to make it, because most in the country have short term thinking, and they are the ones electing.
To me, we live in a society where everybody wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants to die. I think that's what you're saying too with the lower taxes and healthcare. We hope we can have the benefit without having to pay for it. There will always be strings attached to anything that the government provides for free or almost free, that is where the loss of freedom comes in.

I think we have become acustomed to living in a microwave world. We got to have our way the way we want it, when we want it and how we want it and when we don't, frustration sets in. BHO's poll numbers for example, in January he was untouchably popular, now he cant break 50%, and that's in 11 months. Now granted, his popularity was overplayed by the media and was alot of emotionalism from Bush fatigue, but he is realizing that everything is not gonna go his way. Just like the rest of us. IMO

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ootb wrote:
<quoted text>To me, we live in a society where everybody wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants to die. I think that's what you're saying too with the lower taxes and healthcare. We hope we can have the benefit without having to pay for it. There will always be strings attached to anything that the government provides for free or almost free, that is where the loss of freedom comes in.
I think we have become acustomed to living in a microwave world. We got to have our way the way we want it, when we want it and how we want it and when we don't, frustration sets in. BHO's poll numbers for example, in January he was untouchably popular, now he cant break 50%, and that's in 11 months. Now granted, his popularity was overplayed by the media and was alot of emotionalism from Bush fatigue, but he is realizing that everything is not gonna go his way. Just like the rest of us. IMO
To create a car, one must first understand the mechanics. Healthcare is not any different. An argument to that would be that they are doing it in other countries without problem. But the reality is, that we are starting from such abuse of the system, it would be like making the body of the car with rubber.
Something is going to collapse. But crushing a car made of steel with a bull dozer is going to stop it from running too.

Apathy? Maybe? Maybe the short term thinking is because there is only a short time left.
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Have you ever noticed that when you cut your hair yourself, you make a mess of it. Then you have to go to a professional to get it fixed.

Do you ever go to a mechanic, and tell them how to fix your car? Or a plumber and tell them how to fix your plumbing? If you know how, you will do it yourself right?

You have to trust what the professionals are telling you is the right thing. We don't trust anymore, even the people that we should. Can we fix that?

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Gingerphobe wrote:
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To create a car, one must first understand the mechanics. Healthcare is not any different. An argument to that would be that they are doing it in other countries without problem. But the reality is, that we are starting from such abuse of the system, it would be like making the body of the car with rubber.
Something is going to collapse. But crushing a car made of steel with a bull dozer is going to stop it from running too.
Apathy? Maybe? Maybe the short term thinking is because there is only a short time left.
You are right about undertanding the mechanics, and in only 11 months they haven't even had time to finish reading the instruction manual, yet the administration has all of the answers to all of the questions and all of the solutions to all of the problems that face America. If you dont believe me, ask them.

I think short sighted thinking comes from short sighted goal making. Very few people in politics anymore it seems, cant see past the next election. They appear to set their agendas and priorities based on what will get them re-elected, not what will be best for the people they represent. That would be cured with mandatory term limits. I think if we would go back to citizens representing citizens instead of career politicians, we would all be better served.

Great name, got to watch them fiery red-heads!!

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Gingerphobe wrote:
Have you ever noticed that when you cut your hair yourself, you make a mess of it. Then you have to go to a professional to get it fixed.
Do you ever go to a mechanic, and tell them how to fix your car? Or a plumber and tell them how to fix your plumbing? If you know how, you will do it yourself right?
You have to trust what the professionals are telling you is the right thing. We don't trust anymore, even the people that we should. Can we fix that?
Trust, now adays has to be earned more than ever. It's not a given anymore. Just because someone wears a white lab coat or a pinstriped suit dont make them trustable. In many professions where a professional license is required, along with that license comes a fudiciary responsibility to do what's right for the customer, that does not always happen, which creates distrust. It's funny, but if you do something right and to the customers full expectation, they may tell one person and if you dont meet expectations they will tell ten. Not really a fair exchange, but thats the way it is.
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<quoted text>Trust, now adays has to be earned more than ever. It's not a given anymore. Just because someone wears a white lab coat or a pinstriped suit dont make them trustable. In many professions where a professional license is required, along with that license comes a fudiciary responsibility to do what's right for the customer, that does not always happen, which creates distrust. It's funny, but if you do something right and to the customers full expectation, they may tell one person and if you dont meet expectations they will tell ten. Not really a fair exchange, but thats the way it is.
In some professions, such as emergency professions there is no time to develop trust. Your life is in their hands, and you get the luck of the draw.

What is making medical decisions, financial or ethical responsibility? What is more important, financial or ethical responsibility, because these are the questions that it has come down to. Life or Money?

The priorities are coming down to those two things. Dr.'s know what is physically possible and they are learning what is financially possible. So if a doctor were to ask themsleves was every thing done that could have been done physically, there is one answer. But was everything that could have been done financially, that is another answer.

How can you trust one that puts finances first, and yet we are going to have to. Then when the anger comes, the tort will follow.

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Priorities wrote:
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In some professions, such as emergency professions there is no time to develop trust. Your life is in their hands, and you get the luck of the draw.
What is making medical decisions, financial or ethical responsibility? What is more important, financial or ethical responsibility, because these are the questions that it has come down to. Life or Money?
The priorities are coming down to those two things. Dr.'s know what is physically possible and they are learning what is financially possible. So if a doctor were to ask themsleves was every thing done that could have been done physically, there is one answer. But was everything that could have been done financially, that is another answer.
How can you trust one that puts finances first, and yet we are going to have to. Then when the anger comes, the tort will follow.
The way I see it, the whole system is flawed, but not to the point of starting from scratch with nationalized healthcare.

There is a lot of cause and effect going on. The Doctors charge an enormous fee knowing that the insurance companies will only approve a portion of the bill, they have to pay a huge premium for malpractice coverage because if they make a mistake the patient with the card can call an attorney and sue. I think to rebuild the healthcare system you should have to include all of the players. I have yet to see a single finger from the administration pointed in the directions of the lawyers. If they would cap certain types of suits, perhaps malpractice premiums would go down, the Doctors could charge less, that could place the health insurance companies in a position to lower premiums also, more people could afford the policies and everyone that wants coverage could have it thru the company of their choice.

I think I just figured out why the administration hasnt targeted the lawyers. DUH!!
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