Holiday trash pick up
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Sweet Sue

Paris, TX

#41 Dec 30, 2010
Opie wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe it is just because we pay a fee for having our trash picked up twice a week and would like to get what we pay for. Or perhaps we could have our trash fee reduced on the days the city workers take off, and offset that with savings from not paying those workers, while the rest of us continue working at least monday through friday, don't get 10 holidays a year, or 2 to 1 match for our retirement, comp pay, medical benefits, and the list goes on and on. Your tax dollars and fees at work!!!
No, you don't pay for twice a week pickup -- you pay for the number of pickups you get, because when the cost of sanitation is figured, they take into consideration the number of times trash WON'T be picked up. If you don't like the benefits at your job, why don't you try to get one of those cushy city jobs. They are an equal opportunity employer.
Opie

Dallas, TX

#42 Dec 30, 2010
Sweet Sue wrote:
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No, you don't pay for twice a week pickup -- you pay for the number of pickups you get, because when the cost of sanitation is figured, they take into consideration the number of times trash WON'T be picked up. If you don't like the benefits at your job, why don't you try to get one of those cushy city jobs. They are an equal opportunity employer.
Good idea!!! I hear the city manager job is open...
LOL

Paris, TX

#43 Dec 30, 2010
Opie wrote:
<quoted text>Good idea!!! I hear the city manager job is open...
I don't know, but I have a sneaking suspicion you're not quite qualified for that position. Try sanitation.
A Question

Dallas, TX

#44 Dec 30, 2010
Sweet Sue wrote:
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No, you don't pay for twice a week pickup -- you pay for the number of pickups you get, because when the cost of sanitation is figured, they take into consideration the number of times trash WON'T be picked up.
That is not exactly correct. When we lived on the SE part of town, we had pickup on Tuesdays and Fridays. When we lived on the NW part of town, we had pickup on Mondays and Fridays. The cost was the same for both sides of town. However, people on the NW side of town get screwed, because many holidays (days off) fall on Mondays and Thanksgiving is on a Thursday.

LOL

Paris, TX

#45 Dec 30, 2010
A Question wrote:
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That is not exactly correct. When we lived on the SE part of town, we had pickup on Tuesdays and Fridays. When we lived on the NW part of town, we had pickup on Mondays and Fridays. The cost was the same for both sides of town. However, people on the NW side of town get screwed, because many holidays (days off) fall on Mondays and Thanksgiving is on a Thursday.
Well, that is just totally outrageous! I'd either move or call and ask for a prorated refund. How dare they take a holiday and not pick up your trash!
The Answer

Paris, TX

#46 Dec 30, 2010
A Question wrote:
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That is not exactly correct. When we lived on the SE part of town, we had pickup on Tuesdays and Fridays. When we lived on the NW part of town, we had pickup on Mondays and Fridays. The cost was the same for both sides of town. However, people on the NW side of town get screwed, because many holidays (days off) fall on Mondays and Thanksgiving is on a Thursday.
You're thinking backwards. You don't pay for 104 pickups a year. You pay for 94 pickups a year. Some people get a few more than the 94, but everyone gets at least 94. So you are not paying for pickups you don't get.
A Question

Dallas, TX

#47 Dec 30, 2010
The Answer wrote:
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You're thinking backwards. You don't pay for 104 pickups a year. You pay for 94 pickups a year. Some people get a few more than the 94, but everyone gets at least 94. So you are not paying for pickups you don't get.
OK, I didn't know that the rate was set for 94 pickups - all I knew is we had fewer pickups on one side of town than the other, yet paid the same amount. Thanks for the clarification.

Since: Apr 10

Paris

#49 Dec 30, 2010
As I see it, it all comes down to this. If it were private enterprise doing the City trash, and there was competition involved, and assume one company offered trash service the first business day following Christmas, more than likely, so would the other one. They would likely pay their employees double time for working that day and the Citizens would benefit from COMPETITION. Likewise, if Walmart was government owned, and Walmart had no competition, Walmart would be closed on Black Friday, simply because they can. I bet Sanitation Solutions or Waste Management won't let our trash rot on the curb....hopefully our City Council will see thats a part of the contract! I don't blame the City sanitation employees....blame... no competition!
Sweet Sue

Paris, TX

#50 Dec 31, 2010
two kiss wrote:
As I see it, it all comes down to this. If it were private enterprise doing the City trash, and there was competition involved, and assume one company offered trash service the first business day following Christmas, more than likely, so would the other one. They would likely pay their employees double time for working that day and the Citizens would benefit from COMPETITION. Likewise, if Walmart was government owned, and Walmart had no competition, Walmart would be closed on Black Friday, simply because they can. I bet Sanitation Solutions or Waste Management won't let our trash rot on the curb....hopefully our City Council will see thats a part of the contract! I don't blame the City sanitation employees....blame... no competition!
If they pay their employees double time for holidays, won't that increase the cost to the consumer? Yet something else to gripe about. I remember when the city picked up trash once every two weeks. What a bunch of crybabies we've become!
taxpayer

Euless, TX

#51 Dec 31, 2010
this was just a preview of what it will be in a few years. when barney and son take over it will be just a matter of time before it is a once a week issue. out of all the talk about how the city is going to save these big bucks on trash i have seen nothing about the savings for the ones that are paying the bill to begin with, which just went up recently. we will still be paying the city the same be it once or twice a week, which will padding two pockets. the entire city could be picked up once a week with 2 trucks and 2-4 workers depending on how it is placed at the curb using a 5 day work week.
business

Paris, TX

#52 Dec 31, 2010
If a business will screw their employees, they will screw their customers (the citizens of Paris). If we privitize, it will be OK for awhile. Then the cost will jump and the service will take a nosedive. They are not interested in providing a service, they are interested in the bottom line - $$$.
Damnit

Paris, TX

#53 Dec 31, 2010
Duh wrote:
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So you think everything the city does should revolve around trash pick-up? If they had taken Thursday, you'd be the one griping about not having enough room in your trash cans to put all the Christmas trash. "They should have picked up before Christmas so we could start with clean cans!"
Most reasonable people realize there will be some changes during a holiday season. Just so this doesn't happen to you again, maybe you better check the holidays the city observes.
http://www.paristexas.gov/DocumentView.aspx...
The City observes New Year's on Friday this year.
I'm saying that if they have to have an extra day off, it makes much more sense for it to be the Thursday before Christmas than the Monday after. I wouldn't be upset (and I'm not upset about them being off the Monday after, I'm simply arguing that they shouldn't have been) about them being off the Thursday before, but thanks for playing.
Damnit

Paris, TX

#54 Dec 31, 2010
taxpayer wrote:
this was just a preview of what it will be in a few years. when barney and son take over it will be just a matter of time before it is a once a week issue. out of all the talk about how the city is going to save these big bucks on trash i have seen nothing about the savings for the ones that are paying the bill to begin with, which just went up recently. we will still be paying the city the same be it once or twice a week, which will padding two pockets. the entire city could be picked up once a week with 2 trucks and 2-4 workers depending on how it is placed at the curb using a 5 day work week.
I's not the city's job to save money for individuals. It's their job to do everything they can do reduce unneccessary expense for the city.
Sweet Sue

Paris, TX

#55 Dec 31, 2010
Damnit wrote:
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I's not the city's job to save money for individuals. It's their job to do everything they can do reduce unneccessary expense for the city.
OK, just so you know -- all the city's expenses are paid by individuals either through taxes or charges for services. This post makes it abundantly clear you have no idea what you are talking about.
taxpayer

Euless, TX

#56 Dec 31, 2010
Damnit wrote:
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I's not the city's job to save money for individuals. It's their job to do everything they can do reduce unneccessary expense for the city.
it's the individuals that pay 18 dollars a month to pay for these services. if the city saved 2 or 3 thousand dollars a week on these services by going private then this should reduce the amount people pay and not just keep the money for other projects that are not covered by this fee, those should be covered by the taxes we pay.
taxpayer

Euless, TX

#57 Dec 31, 2010
Sweet Sue wrote:
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OK, just so you know -- all the city's expenses are paid by individuals either through taxes or charges for services. This post makes it abundantly clear you have no idea what you are talking about.
i'll second that. he must be one of the four.
Damnit

Paris, TX

#58 Dec 31, 2010
Sweet Sue wrote:
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OK, just so you know -- all the city's expenses are paid by individuals either through taxes or charges for services. This post makes it abundantly clear you have no idea what you are talking about.
Good grief you're an idiot. Just so you know, when the city can save money in an area (ie trash pickup), they can use the savings to either remain solvent, spend money in another area that needs it (like infrastructure), or reduce taxes.
Damnit

Paris, TX

#59 Dec 31, 2010
taxpayer wrote:
<quoted text> i'll second that. he must be one of the four.
I'm not, although I am for privatization of trash services, and I was back when Tony Williams was the city manager as well.
trashman

Euless, TX

#60 Jan 2, 2011
Notice, to celebrate the King's birthday, trash will NOT be picked up on Monday Jan. 17, 2011. Thank You

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