Softball for Girls
HOLY COW Batman

Paris, TX

#21 Jul 29, 2008
softball parent wrote:
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That is what everyone is talking about!!! That's right tell them how to "Get in Good" with a coach that they want or with the players on the team so they can play on a "Winning Team". What ever happened to DRAFT..... Ohh sorry we are talking about the "Special" girls and families that only want their chid on a "Special" Team.
Sounds like stacking a team to me, what ever happened to getting on what ever team DRAFT'S you and if it is not a "Winning Team" then work hard and help the other teammates to make it a better team, not pull your special child for another team.... Sound like H.C. Batman has the inside scoop on how to make the SPECIAL TEAM thing work wonder if his/her child is on one of the Special Teams or if they are just happy with what ever team they were put on.
Wow, sounds like you are really bitter. Has it not occured to you that these "special teams" ARE special because the coach saw talent where no one else saw it and they are better at motivating where other coaches like to yell and throw fits when "the girls" make them look bad. I know both these coaches but I don't have a child on either of their teams. I just can recognize dedication.
HOLY COW Batman

Paris, TX

#22 Jul 29, 2008
I also want to add that everyone eligible for the draft, goes in the draft. A lot of times these coaches will take a very young team so it can grow together. I don't have a child that plays ball, but I have a family member that does and I go to a lot of the games.
anmom

Paris, TX

#23 Jul 29, 2008
softball parent wrote:
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That is what everyone is talking about!!! That's right tell them how to "Get in Good" with a coach that they want or with the players on the team so they can play on a "Winning Team". What ever happened to DRAFT..... Ohh sorry we are talking about the "Special" girls and families that only want their chid on a "Special" Team.
Sounds like stacking a team to me, what ever happened to getting on what ever team DRAFT'S you and if it is not a "Winning Team" then work hard and help the other teammates to make it a better team, not pull your special child for another team.... Sound like H.C. Batman has the inside scoop on how to make the SPECIAL TEAM thing work wonder if his/her child is on one of the Special Teams or if they are just happy with what ever team they were put on.
My daughter played with the Y all the way up through high school. Now she is more of a recreational player than one who wants a scholarship so I didnt mind her time on the bench. But we were on a team stacked with some select team players. it was horrible. the coaches showed no mercy for the other teams (whose pitching was subpar) and they used our games as their "select practice". They would practice left hand batting, slapping, etc. It was horrible. The coaches were friends/relatives of the director so not much was going to be done.
My only theory about paying to play a sport is that all kids should get to play. When you get to the high school then you can be benched for your lack of talent. I have always been amazed by the ones who call themselves coaches but don't help the ones who clearly need it. The ones they fawn all over are the ones with some athletic ability. How about helping a kid who has some potential? Those are the coaches I really admire. I enjoyed Woodall's new rule this year that a player has two play a minimum of two innings and they had to get it in before the top of the 5th inning.(a lot of coaches were using that rule and putting them in in the 6th or so inning and the game would get run ruled or timed out) I thought it was a great way to force the coaches to work with all of the kids.
In the dark

Pittsburgh, PA

#24 Jul 29, 2008
what is the differance between slow pitch and fast pitch? except for the pitching of course..
longhorn fan

Pittsburgh, PA

#25 Jul 29, 2008
anmom wrote:
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My daughter played with the Y all the way up through high school. Now she is more of a recreational player than one who wants a scholarship so I didnt mind her time on the bench. But we were on a team stacked with some select team players. it was horrible. the coaches showed no mercy for the other teams (whose pitching was subpar) and they used our games as their "select practice". They would practice left hand batting, slapping, etc. It was horrible. The coaches were friends/relatives of the director so not much was going to be done.
My only theory about paying to play a sport is that all kids should get to play. When you get to the high school then you can be benched for your lack of talent. I have always been amazed by the ones who call themselves coaches but don't help the ones who clearly need it. The ones they fawn all over are the ones with some athletic ability. How about helping a kid who has some potential? Those are the coaches I really admire. I enjoyed Woodall's new rule this year that a player has two play a minimum of two innings and they had to get it in before the top of the 5th inning.(a lot of coaches were using that rule and putting them in in the 6th or so inning and the game would get run ruled or timed out) I thought it was a great way to force the coaches to work with all of the kids.
My daughter plays at the Girls Softball of Paris slowpitch orgination behind Chisum and I know that the 12 and under team is a "Bat the Bench" This means that EVERY girl gets to bat regardless of the ability or who their parents are.
Fielding on the other hand they have to play at least 2 innings in the field.
As for the older girls I think, don't hold me to this, that they have subs and are only required to play the girl for 2 innings regardless if they bat or not.
river rat

Paris, TX

#26 Jul 29, 2008
In the dark wrote:
what is the differance between slow pitch and fast pitch? except for the pitching of course..
A lot like the ball is going 40 to 50 mph at the batter instead of a slow pitch with a 8 to 10 foot arc. The ball hits behind the plate instead of the catcher catching the ball. The ball moves a lot faster you have to be on your toes or you will get hit.. It is more like boys baseball.
Legend in your own mind

United States

#27 Jul 29, 2008
I have a daughter that has played at the Y for the last 6 years. I have another that started in t-ball this year. They will start in soccer next summer. It was so bad this year, that I think we will play soccer from now on. To many bad examples in behavior. From parents to coach's to Kim. It was bad.
Big Dog

United States

#28 Jul 29, 2008
Ya'll need to just quit your complaining. Ever thank some of you might be the problem? Nag, Nag, Nag! Your kids are learning from you! They probably are terrible at Softball too! Can't stand the heat get out of the oven....
la ti da

Paris, TX

#29 Jul 29, 2008
I played slow pitch softball growing up. Some of my best memories are from the Chisum field. We were all family out there. We ALL got to play and have a good time. I think most people forget the fact that its supposed to be FUN and enjoyable. I will admit this...I played one season of fast pitch on my high school team. I was horrible. I couldnt hit a thing! The only times I got a hit was when we played PHS. The pitcher was very slow...no one could hit off of her but me! Softball wasnt the only sport I played during the school year though. It was just something to get me out of off season workouts that year!
agreed

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#30 Jul 29, 2008
Big Dog wrote:
Ya'll need to just quit your complaining. Ever thank some of you might be the problem? Nag, Nag, Nag! Your kids are learning from you! They probably are terrible at Softball too! Can't stand the heat get out of the oven....
I agree here. Remember, you are the biggest influence in your childs life. If the league you are currently with has a problem, offer your advice, or a helping hand. Stop teaching your kids that sitting in a lawn chair behind a fence complaining about a coach is the way to solve a problem. Lead by example, a good example. You'll probably find that most of the coaches out there would love your help and advice. It's very possible that the volunteers who are running these organizations have so many responsibilities that they aren't aware of the parents concerns.
just my 02

Paris, TX

#31 Jul 29, 2008
la ti da wrote:
I played slow pitch softball growing up. Some of my best memories are from the Chisum field. We were all family out there. We ALL got to play and have a good time. I think most people forget the fact that its supposed to be FUN and enjoyable. I will admit this...I played one season of fast pitch on my high school team. I was horrible. I couldnt hit a thing! The only times I got a hit was when we played PHS. The pitcher was very slow...no one could hit off of her but me! Softball wasnt the only sport I played during the school year though. It was just something to get me out of off season workouts that year!
Thanks for your honesty about having trouble hitting after playing SP. Dont feel like you were the first to have trouble and you sure wont be the last. Someone mentioned 40 to 50mph pitches. When my daughter was 10 two of our pitchers were throwing 50 to 55mph. If you think thats not to hard to hit try doing it when its not just a fastball. These kids now days that really like the sport and put in the work from a young age can become pretty awesome at a early age. The pitchers that are good in HS didn't start pitching the year before starting HS. As far as the stacked teams it is sports it has always been that way even with a draft. Take 3 guys that are friends and sign up to coach. 1 will head coach and he will take his 2 friends as assistants. That immediately guaranteed those three kids on the same team as they were protected picks. All of their daughters are pretty good.(at least 1 was a top pitcher in the league) add 1 solid pick. There is a stacked team. Most teams didn't have that many dedicated type ball players. Take for example a nice dad that offered to coach and his daughter was not necessarily really good. He is at a immediate disadvantage he has to find a pitcher and he is already 1 pick behind on top rated players. Its not so much breaking the rules it is just being smart and having the kids with the ability to make it work. I was never in the "in" crowd and never have paid anyone to teach my child she started playing very young and worked hard at it. She gets a whole lot of compliments and I am very proud of her. I think she deserves the attention she gets.
As far as this past season goes I really did like the Dixie ball better but with time and everyone getting use to it it should get better if the parents and coaches are made to keep themselves in check.
kjc

Paris, TX

#32 Jul 30, 2008
Leslie Ann wrote:
We just moved here and my daughters want to play softball. Are there any leauges here for the girls? She is 13 and pretty good.
I have played softball all my life. I also umpired at the Y this past year. I would highly recommend travel ball. It is really the only way to go if you are considering to pursue it in college.
Softball

College Station, TX

#33 Jul 30, 2008
just my 02 wrote:
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As far as the stacked teams it is sports it has always been that way even with a draft. Take 3 guys that are friends and sign up to coach. 1 will head coach and he will take his 2 friends as assistants. That immediately guaranteed those three kids on the same team as they were protected picks. All of their daughters are pretty good.(at least 1 was a top pitcher in the league) add 1 solid pick. There is a stacked team.
The draft procedure this year did not allow player protection for anyone other than the head coach---Asst Coaches were picked from drafted players--now players already on a team from a previous year remained and that created some better teams but that issue should be over due to the age brackets....
Softball Mom

United States

#34 Jul 30, 2008
The problem with the fastpitch thing is there is always some excuse out there. We're gonna do better next year. It never is, it never has been, and it never will be. It was way worse this year than its ever been. I witnessed umpires and the head lady change the rules in the middle of games several times. If you bring something to there attention its like you hit a nerve or something she just goes into baligerant mode. Most people don't want to say anything bad for fear of retaliation. Just ask around before you make up your mind.
rules

Pittsburgh, PA

#35 Aug 1, 2008
I was under the impression that the "Y" went with the ASA rules this year so thay would have a rule book to follow and keep people from changing everything when they did not like the outcome. What is up with this?
Scooter

United States

#36 Aug 2, 2008
I will say this, ask anyone beyond a butt kisser, and you will hear of numerous times the rule book was not followed. In most cases I bet the rule book has never been read. It doesn't matter what rule book they use, they make there rules up as they go and this year was the worst so far. I mean alot of favoritism shown, always been a little but a lot this year.
a real coach

Clarksville, TX

#37 Aug 2, 2008
micheal allen sucks,he's never beat any of my teams
Mr Softball

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#38 Aug 4, 2008
Hey SCOOTER
Maybe you could give us an example. I would like to know what rules didnt get followed. Also maybe let us in on the rules they made up as they went along. I would like to hear who got showed all the favoritism. My daughter played in this league and I was just wondering about your comments.
opinion

Dallas, TX

#39 Aug 4, 2008
a real coach wrote:
micheal allen sucks,he's never beat any of my teams
Well, you shouldn't be too hard to figure out then.
Hodges

Arlington, TX

#40 Aug 4, 2008
I just want to say that you need to pick which organization would be the right fit for your child. You wouldn't take your kids to just any day care right?
By my own admission, I tend to be a bit overprotective of my kids. And at first I wanted my girls to play fast pitch, but while I was playing womens softball at the pavillion, I got a taste of "Y ball". I honestly thought that a riot would breakout any second. I was completely dumbfounded by the way the parents acted. These were 8 or 10 yo girls. And I know, not all parents act like that and you can expect it in every league, but there are those that do get over zealous, but all that "cussin, hollerin, and carrying on"...it was truly ridiculous.
So...we opted for the GSOP at Chisum. Granted it is "slowpitch"...and some consider it a remedial form of ball, but we have a great time. We are so involved now, that I help coach...my hubby helps when he can. It is one of our familes favorite activities. And when they decide they want to play fastpitch they can, but right now they are content with virgin ears.
BTW...no disrepect to "Y" ballers...I'm not trying to bash your org, It was just my experience on the fields. I'm sure it's not always as bad as it was the evenings I was out there.

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