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Tommy Lasorda

Haslet, TX

#87 May 22, 2013
frozen rope wrote:
<quoted text>And that's just at north Lamar and Paris. There's Ryan Poole and Tyler Edge at Chisum. Heath Swaim and Jeremy Hunter at Prairiland. All will end up playing at the text level all played travel ball. Hell Tyler Edge averaged double digit strike ours at Chisum.
Chisum doesn't count! They're horrid!
Question

Paris, TX

#88 May 23, 2013
Question. What did all of the players mention have in common? Ah yes. They played baseball at the Optimist fields first. Now where would kids play if the program shut down? Where do many of the select teams play games at? Where would kids play who cannot afford high select ball fees and travel?
Where else can you play against pitchers and players from PHS,NL,Chisum,Prairiland,Roxto n,and then face pitchers from much larger 5A and 6A districts in all star play? Think before you post some smart ass answer.
Parent

Paris, TX

#89 May 23, 2013
I'm not coming on here to bash anyone's child for playing or not playing select baseball. Half of those kids on the pride are very good ball players but half are average at best. If the league wants to take only select teams to all stars that's fine. They already know the coaches and the coaches know the kids ability. I just wish they would quit with the lie that they are electing the all stars from the entire league because that is not true. And to the people who say that only select players are any good you need to open your eyes. Money doesn't make a kid better at sports.
coaches wife

Plano, TX

#90 May 23, 2013
parent, you hit the nail on the head
chosenone1970

San Antonio, TX

#91 May 23, 2013
Question wrote:
Question. What did all of the players mention have in common? Ah yes. They played baseball at the Optimist fields first. Now where would kids play if the program shut down? Where do many of the select teams play games at? Where would kids play who cannot afford high select ball fees and travel?
Where else can you play against pitchers and players from PHS,NL,Chisum,Prairiland,Roxto n,and then face pitchers from much larger 5A and 6A districts in all star play? Think before you post some smart ass answer.
I wonder which one of the sanders thid is? Obviously not bill he is not that articulate! Maybe ann but I am not sure she would use the term smart ass! Tony has a way with words and he I'd an English teacher? That settles it I am going with Tony!!!!!!!!
pride and NL mom 2

Paris, TX

#92 May 23, 2013
My son has played Woodall and Select Baseball. I'm not bashing anyone and Woodall is great while they are small and learning the basics but, when it comes to being competitive you have to go somewhere else. A lot of the parents at Woodall use it as a babysitter not for baseball. These kids are never worked with at home they only get practice if the parents feel like taking them and then they want to gripe if their child doesnt make all stars or if a coaches kid makes it over their child. Nine times out of ten the coaches kids actually have it harder unlike some people think. A coaches kid will be at every practice, help unload the equipment, take butt chewings when something went wrong and then help load the equipment back up. My son went to Select ball and started out of town tournaments because there was no room for him to better himself. If you are on a team where the kids cant catch your ball or run from it because you throw hard how can that child better himself. One other thing, it has been said that the kids that play select ball their parents are made of money and just like to brag that their kids are on a select/traveling team----this is the furthest thing from the truth. Some of us work overtime, take second jobs, skip vacations because we want our kids to learn and excel in what they love. So please leave the kids and parents alone who choose to play select and travel. We just want what is best for our boys.
frozen rope

United States

#93 May 24, 2013
Tommy Lasorda wrote:
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Chisum doesn't count! They're horrid!
Kinda reminds you of Woodall doesn't it!!!
Tommy Lasorda

Haslet, TX

#94 May 24, 2013
frozen rope wrote:
<quoted text>Kinda reminds you of Woodall doesn't it!!!
lol, yea AAA
An unbiased perspective

Valley View, TX

#95 May 24, 2013
You know, the thing about "select" baseball, ANYONE can field a team and enter tournaments.
I would like to see one of the parents who is so upset, or things the non-allstars can win, take the effort to put a team together and enter some tournaments.
The biggest misconception of "select" baseball is that it cost alot. It doesn't have to. If you want to hire me to coach your kid it will cost you, but what if 2 of you moms or dads get together and coach it. All it cost there is time. Uniforms can consist of tshirts with numbers.
All it takes is someone willing to put in the time.
But you see, TIME is the one thing most don't want to put in. Coaching is a labor of love. I have coached (never in Paris) for over 15 years, ages from t-ball to college, sometimes my kids, sometimes others, sometimes for pay, sometimes for the enjoyment of it. But the one thing every team had in common, they all required alot of my TIME.
Any complaining parent willing to commit to the time?
Game Changer

United States

#96 May 24, 2013
chosenone1970 wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder which one of the sanders thid is? Obviously not bill he is not that articulate! Maybe ann but I am not sure she would use the term smart ass! Tony has a way with words and he I'd an English teacher? That settles it I am going with Tony!!!!!!!!
Do you really think Tony is concerned with Woodall? I think his focus is on his own son, who no longer plays at Woodall, and on the PHS team.
Game Changer

United States

#97 May 24, 2013
As for kids to watch, add Graham Weatherford. There are several more good players who will be entering high school next year. There are also a few who are on select teams that are in for a shock in high school. They simply aren't solid ball players. The "pride" of being on the Pride team doesn't assure a kid a starting position on a school team. Neither does all stars. Desire, hard work, and passion on the part of the athlete, not the parent, is what really separates the true athletes from the rest.

Select or league or both.....at the end of the day what truly matters is talent and the commitment to develop that talent.
Facts

United States

#98 May 24, 2013
Parent wrote:
I'm not coming on here to bash anyone's child for playing or not playing select baseball. Half of those kids on the pride are very good ball players but half are average at best. If the league wants to take only select teams to all stars that's fine. They already know the coaches and the coaches know the kids ability. I just wish they would quit with the lie that they are electing the all stars from the entire league because that is not true. And to the people who say that only select players are any good you need to open your eyes. Money doesn't make a kid better at sports.
Again.....I'm not sure this is true! My son doesn't play select ball, but he has played all stars and most likely will be playing this year. I agree with your last sentence. I never felt that I had to spend a lot of money. He was staying competitive without it. I once had an ex-MLB player tell me that parents waste a lot of money investing in select teams and private coaching before a kid goes through adolescence. He advised us to let our kid develop his talent and his passion naturally and IF he still showed promise after going through adolescence, then spend time & money ensuring he was seen by recruiters.
New hire

Desoto, TX

#99 May 24, 2013
well if your child plays 13/14 and you've not already know then your child isn't on all-stars
unwavering mom

Oologah, OK

#100 May 24, 2013
All I know is things are never done fair at woodall. The rules only apply for certain people. I know a man who puts in countless hours out there and his kids are always getting the screws put to them out there. They make their little league rules and then they never follow them. The umpires are horrible and get worse every year. This program is not about or for the kids. It is all about greed and let's not make certain people unhappy. Needless to say it continues. No one has enough guts to step up and stop all the bs out there.
Facts

United States

#101 May 24, 2013
New hire wrote:
well if your child plays 13/14 and you've not already know then your child isn't on all-stars
I do know. But as I told him, until his name is announced and he joins the rest of the all star team on the field, anything can happen. He needs to believe this so that he doesn't become prideful during the rest of the season and so that he continues to give his best at each game. I actually believe it because I learned a long time ago not to fully trust anyone. He may have been asked, but until that roster is announced, I believe he could still potentially lose that spot, due to his own actions or politics.

But unless something like that happens, here's the truth - he is 13/14, he's not on a select team, he's not a coach's son, and he is on all stars.
truth

Clarksville, TX

#102 May 24, 2013
First, bashing parents for putting their child on a select team is ignorant. If a parent wants their child to play for a traveling team that is honestly going to play better competition, that is their decision.

Secondly, it certainly does not mean that parents have all the money in the world for their child to play "select" baseball. I played on teams where we took donations after donations and had fundraiser after fundraiser to help pay for entry fees and pay for hotels/gas etc.

Now, the competition and skill level at Woodall has gone down in the last 15 years, there is no doubt about it. Does that mean that kids cannot receive a benefit from playing out there? No.

Also, you want to talk about how "good" these select teams are from Paris are, open your eyes. There has been one or two select teams from Paris actually compete at a high level of baseball. Super Series has 3 levels of competition. Minors, American, and National. In that order, is the lowest level to the highest. In USSSA, there are four levels, A, AA, AAA, and Major.

The teams from Paris that compete and win tournaments are the ones that play AA and Minors.

I'm not bashing anyone, I am just telling the truth. Look at the stats, that Pride team is registered as AAA but their record against other AAA teams is 1-4. They compete at the AA level, and that is the truth.

Yes, they are playing better competition but to act like those kids are so much better than the ones playing at Woodall is ridiculous.

When you have a team that competes at the AAA and Major level, then you can have a true argument.

I grew up playing on one of these AA/Minor teams for about 3-4 years, and then I stepped up and was given the opportunity to play on a team from Dallas that was a Major/National Division team. It's a big reality check from playing at a lower level and you really can compare yourself to some of the top talent, not only in the area/state, but also in the country.

Also playing at Woodall gives kids some of the best life lessons that you can ever have, and creates bonds and friendships that are never taken away. Don't every forget that. Woodall is good for the community.
yes

Eucha, OK

#103 May 26, 2013
truth wrote:
First, bashing parents for putting their child on a select team is ignorant. If a parent wants their child to play for a traveling team that is honestly going to play better competition, that is their decision.
Secondly, it certainly does not mean that parents have all the money in the world for their child to play "select" baseball. I played on teams where we took donations after donations and had fundraiser after fundraiser to help pay for entry fees and pay for hotels/gas etc.
Now, the competition and skill level at Woodall has gone down in the last 15 years, there is no doubt about it. Does that mean that kids cannot receive a benefit from playing out there? No.
Also, you want to talk about how "good" these select teams are from Paris are, open your eyes. There has been one or two select teams from Paris actually compete at a high level of baseball. Super Series has 3 levels of competition. Minors, American, and National. In that order, is the lowest level to the highest. In USSSA, there are four levels, A, AA, AAA, and Major.
The teams from Paris that compete and win tournaments are the ones that play AA and Minors.
I'm not bashing anyone, I am just telling the truth. Look at the stats, that Pride team is registered as AAA but their record against other AAA teams is 1-4. They compete at the AA level, and that is the truth.
Yes, they are playing better competition but to act like those kids are so much better than the ones playing at Woodall is ridiculous.
When you have a team that competes at the AAA and Major level, then you can have a true argument.
I grew up playing on one of these AA/Minor teams for about 3-4 years, and then I stepped up and was given the opportunity to play on a team from Dallas that was a Major/National Division team. It's a big reality check from playing at a lower level and you really can compare yourself to some of the top talent, not only in the area/state, but also in the country.
Also playing at Woodall gives kids some of the best life lessons that you can ever have, and creates bonds and friendships that are never taken away. Don't every forget that. Woodall is good for the community.
Thats something i dont understand with people going around asking for donations. I dont go around asking for donations so i can go on vacation. This is ridiculous if you dont have it dont go but quit asking people to give you money so you can go spend a couple days having fun. Am i suppose to pay for your weekend getaway, NO.
comeon

Fort Worth, TX

#104 May 27, 2013
wildcat wrote:
<quoted text> Brandy Draper! There moron, there's you a name. I can name 15-20 ppl that have joined the optimist club to get involved at Woodall but see how it works and quit. Why do yall have to beg for help year after year? Because everyone's tired of the BS. Only folks ya'll can sucker in are the weak minded, yes Bill fools like the before mentioned B Perry and a few new folks that are just starting T-ball and don't realize how it works but they don't stay long.
anyone but him.. not too sure about his ethics. we need someone that does not have children playing now but is still interested in the game, and how it should be played. Paris is a joke to surrounding towns they know they can beat us.

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